Hi David, great video. In my preliminary documents, the date listed by my wife's solicitor for my questionaire is way past the date submitted. Are the dates listed meant to be submissions dates?
I'm currently going through a court case to have an NDA annulled as a LIP. It's certainly stressful. Now I'm taking this huge company to court and they have failed to put any of the paperwork in that I requested. So I will bring it up with the judge and I will make my own bundle.
I found thus video really helpful as I am a visual person and hate having to read through loads of court jargon. I'm in the middle of supporting my son with his court case and cannot afford a solicitor. So thank you for sharing.
Hi David thank you for this video. It's very helpful. Please can you answer one question for me. In my case the other party's solicitor is to prepare the bundle. Would you know if I can still prepare some sort of bundle myself for evidence etc? It seems a bit unfair at the moment that only the other party can prepare it. Thank you in advance.
It is a strange process but if you're unrepresented and the other party is represented then they as you know have to also prepare yours. As far as I know they have to let you see it before submission to the court and you also have a copy too so if anything's left out you can oppose it . Not ideal but still
I watched many RUclips videos including yours. But feel that having now lost a case that most of this advice is useless. Why? I will list some reasons here. 1. No mention of consumer rights act 1974 (if you didn’t sign a contract including terms and conditions you might as well give up asap) I know you will say I should have known this but surely some of you legal experts should have seen failures based on this alone. 2. No mention of huge amounts of time involved in prepping these cases. (Time is money in business better to carry on with your business than waste time trying to pursue non payers) after all you don’t get paid the amounts legal professionals get paid. 3. Most of these advice videos are so poorly constructed that they fail to include advice to defendants on claiming costs ( this was the only thing I came out of court laughing about the defendant had not brought any invoices for his costs and the expert opinion had not provided a reinstatement cost for the rectification of the supposed problem) this cost the defendant at least £1800 in the end he got back the £400 he had paid me for part payment and £80 court fee) Be careful everyone remember that these videos are to win legal professionals work and the system is for legal experts even though it’s called civil claims. When I mentioned to the judge at the end of the hearing that there was a lack of information his reply was “if you want to improve the system YOU email the court system” interest on the judges part zero. It’s just a job. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!
Hi David this was a really useful video. I currently have me own case ongoing would love some advice? Is there a way I could contact you other than twitter
Do I still have to make bundle if the respondent is not contesting the case in non molestation order. We both are LIP and mine is remote hearing. Thanks
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Does it matter that the index is page 1-3 and then the Case documents also begin at page number 1? Currently putting mine together and in a complete panic to get it right!
I would just like to say a massive thank you for posting this Video, I have a court date in early September and have just completed four copies of the court bundle. Its taken me weeks to complete but i now feel i have an excellent case to put before the court. I wouldn’t of been able to complete it without the help of this video. Thanks again 😃
Thank you very much for this posting, for someone though who has trouble with using a computer, so much so that they cause me anxiety (heightened because of what’s at stake) I feel that being able to do this or not is going to have an impact on weather I get to see my children ever again, and if that’s the case then how is that in the best interests of my children or a measure of what kind of father you are, it simply is not. Maybe il have to just tell them when their adults that “I failed to rescue your childhoods because I could not use a computer and because I did not leave 1.5 mm of line space between two lines of words, so the judge reasoned I did not have my heart in it and therefore deemed me an unsuitable father, and then mums barrister walked all over me because I could not afford any help in court”. Maybe I’m wrong, maybe I’m just worrying to much but with the many stories I hear that’s certainly how it seems. Like you have to learn another trade to be able to rescue your children, how did being able to use a computer become a mandatory requirement for everything, inc being able to be a good father, for want if a better way of putting it I believe everything about this process is so very wrong, such situations should be able to be sorted out without all this paperwork and jargon in just a few weeks. It would help massively if ‘the system’ did not allow a situation to exist where a child can be kept away from one parent just because the other parent suddenly decides to do this, in the best interests of a child, a local authority should be able to impose mandatory supervised access from point of separation to hinder alienation manifesting and stand in the way of the severing of loving relationships, but then there wouldn’t be a ‘family law industry’ so I guess that will never happen. I’d say this set up is an international shame on a so called civilised society, it’s gone back worse than the old Roman system, it’s just as oppressive now but it’s just disguised very well and it survives because parents cannot realistically do anything about it. To sum up my rant I’d say it’s like your children have been kidnapped by a system (your immediately arrested if you go near them even though you have done nothing wrong) and then they are held ransom by that system until you have paid in to that system over 5,6, or 7 years and learned to be a computer wizz and practically a family law professional yourself. I’m now off to cease running my business and I buy a trolly full of ring binder folders and 200kg of paper.
I fully understand your concerns and agree with them. If you need help with any computer work I don't mind helping you. Let me know on here and I'll figure out a way of having a chat with you.
@@daviddunn7334 Hello David, that is a very kind offer... one thing that I have found humbling on my journey so far as a father trying to rescue his children from emotional abuse is the support of like minded fathers who feel the pain and grieving that separation brings on a daily basis, so from one caring Dad to another, thank you from the heart for that, I really thought a lot of that. As I said I was going to in my comment I did manage to get one ring binder folder today, and started doing a chronology, despite my anxiety around computers (I’m generally a technophobe) I have already been taught some computer stuff by my 71 year old father (shame on me at only 40 years old) and I may just be able to cope, I suppose it’s largely the volume of work that seems to be necessary ( 4 copies of the bundles I think is what you said !!) it’s so overwhelming, I too though do want to come across to a judge as dedicated by prepping this bundle at least somewhere near like the level of yours in the video and do also feel I want to completely present my case myself too, same as you, I believe that this alone holds weight in demonstrating sincerity to a judge and I believe I can do it (I’m going it completely alone in court). So l will continue to have a stab at this task and if I think I could use some help I will give you a shout but I hate burdening people who all have their own families to take care of. I do hope you are maintaining a relationship with your boy ? I’ve not seen or been allowed a phone call to my four children for two and a half years now, I did take it to court some time ago but withdrew because it was so stressful it was making me il. Sorry to rant over your video. Kind regards. Tom.
is it necessary for a case summary..? i already have a c.a.o. however the respondent has stopped all contact. i have applied to vary it based on safefuarding concerns..child has disclosed physical abuse to police /teachers/social workers of being smacked/ears pulled etc. my index is position statement, witess statement, exibits , c100, directions orders, existing orders what would case sumamry be in this. what would the case summary be in this ?
A case summary is not always necessary however it does give the judge a chance to have an overview of the case. The key to a successful case summary is to keep it neutral which is particularly difficult when you are a party to proceedings. Please also remember that the case summary and index have to be agreed between parties before the hearing.
@@daviddunn7334 ok thanks. Getting an index agreed would be really difficult as me and ex are not on good terms and as it stands she doesn't have a solicitor acting.
@@daviddunn7334 ok will do can u give me an example..So far I don't gave anything from her. I'm a litigant in person. Waiting on cafcass report. I have my position and witness statement. The existing order. Direction orders chronology and summary. I won't get her statement before submission date very unlikely as solicitors always leave till last minute knowing they'll get away with it.
To everyone who's commented and subscribed, I've been pondering an idea for a while now. For a couple of years I acted as a McKenzie Friend in the Family Court of England and Wales. Some cases were notable, others not so much. I've been thinking about uploading vlogs on how I found the family court including the uphill battle some people face, the bizarre decisions judges make and how the law allows them to do so etc. If it's something that would be of interest, please let me know on here or follow my twitter @dabadee57
You're welcome. This video is a few years old now but the same principles still apply and given the antediluvian way of the family court, nothing has changed. If you need a hand with your case feel free to drop me an email david.dunn@gmx.co.uk
It seems that a lot of the information i am having to put down is the same from one document to the next. Ie Case summary and Statment of issues. is this normal or have i made a mistake
The case summary changes for each hearing. A lot of the time the Court will only read the case summary and position statements prior to the hearing. So yes, it's perfectly normal
So that be the numbered sections and annex listed in the index ? I have the whole bundle on the sd card along with the Digital video evidence to exhibit and I also have a hard copy bundle along with the sd card.
If you have referred to it in a statement, annex it to that statement as an exhibit so...exhibit ab4 video of xyz handed to all parties and the court on a usb stick
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That is very kind of you to put this video on here. It is really helpful for someone like me who is acting in person in the absence of any other support system. Bless you.
I have templates for all the documents but you would need to tell me which ones you need. Feel free to drop me an email....daviddunn@familycourtassist.co.uk
Okay, this is very helpful but how do you apply to log and create the bundle yourself especially if your the Litigant in person??? if the other side has a solicitor, they'll want to create the bundle themselves......I want to do it my self and fight this battle.
By law the Applicant is responsible for the bundle. If you are LiP it is normal for the other party's solicitor to prepare the bundle. If you want to do it yourself and you are the Applicant, you have every right to
Just come across this, going to watch it this morning,thank you 👍👍
Excellent presnetation David. Thank you
Thanks
What if the responded is overseas refusing to communicate whatsoever?
Hi David, great video. In my preliminary documents, the date listed by my wife's solicitor for my questionaire is way past the date submitted. Are the dates listed meant to be submissions dates?
I'm currently going through a court case to have an NDA annulled as a LIP. It's certainly stressful. Now I'm taking this huge company to court and they have failed to put any of the paperwork in that I requested. So I will bring it up with the judge and I will make my own bundle.
Very useful, thank you so much
I found thus video really helpful as I am a visual person and hate having to read through loads of court jargon. I'm in the middle of supporting my son with his court case and cannot afford a solicitor. So thank you for sharing.
Hi David thank you for this video. It's very helpful. Please can you answer one question for me. In my case the other party's solicitor is to prepare the bundle. Would you know if I can still prepare some sort of bundle myself for evidence etc? It seems a bit unfair at the moment that only the other party can prepare it. Thank you in advance.
It is a strange process but if you're unrepresented and the other party is represented then they as you know have to also prepare yours. As far as I know they have to let you see it before submission to the court and you also have a copy too so if anything's left out you can oppose it . Not ideal but still
This is great! I really appreciate you going through this for us.
David, how to get in touch with you privately Regrading this bundle and court work?
I'm Preston crown court 24 April
I watched many RUclips videos including yours. But feel that having now lost a case that most of this advice is useless. Why? I will list some reasons here. 1. No mention of consumer rights act 1974 (if you didn’t sign a contract including terms and conditions you might as well give up asap) I know you will say I should have known this but surely some of you legal experts should have seen failures based on this alone. 2. No mention of huge amounts of time involved in prepping these cases. (Time is money in business better to carry on with your business than waste time trying to pursue non payers) after all you don’t get paid the amounts legal professionals get paid. 3. Most of these advice videos are so poorly constructed that they fail to include advice to defendants on claiming costs ( this was the only thing I came out of court laughing about the defendant had not brought any invoices for his costs and the expert opinion had not provided a reinstatement cost for the rectification of the supposed problem) this cost the defendant at least £1800 in the end he got back the £400 he had paid me for part payment and £80 court fee) Be careful everyone remember that these videos are to win legal professionals work and the system is for legal experts even though it’s called civil claims. When I mentioned to the judge at the end of the hearing that there was a lack of information his reply was “if you want to improve the system YOU email the court system” interest on the judges part zero. It’s just a job. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!
Thank you for this, really helpful
Hi David this was a really useful video. I currently have me own case ongoing would love some advice? Is there a way I could contact you other than twitter
Hi David, I’m applying to vary a current order. Would I need to include the bundle for the original case within this new bundle? Thanks
Personally I would just include the final order/judgement from previous proceedings at the beginning of section B in the new bundle. Good luck
@@daviddunn7334 thank you
Do I still have to make bundle if the respondent is not contesting the case in non molestation order. We both are LIP and mine is remote hearing. Thanks
*Set up a mini office. You should purchase a laser printer 3 in 1, laminator, ergonomic computer accessories, shredder and binder along with punch and stapler.*
Congratulations!!! And thanks for teaching this!
Thank you for your informative information. Very much appreciated.
Does it matter that the index is page 1-3 and then the Case documents also begin at page number 1? Currently putting mine together and in a complete panic to get it right!
Spot on very thorough and thank you very much.
Thank you very much indeed. I have court in 9 days and this has been a life saver. God bless you.
nice one for this Dunn, fighting for my little girl on the 4th
Thank you very much!
Thanks.
You mention the 'Group' was important to you? What is the group please
i would like to speak to you about this
I would just like to say a massive thank you for posting this Video, I have a court date in early September and have just completed four copies of the court bundle. Its taken me weeks to complete but i now feel i have an excellent case to put before the court. I wouldn’t of been able to complete it without the help of this video. Thanks again 😃
Thank you very much for this posting, for someone though who has trouble with using a computer, so much so that they cause me anxiety (heightened because of what’s at stake) I feel that being able to do this or not is going to have an impact on weather I get to see my children ever again, and if that’s the case then how is that in the best interests of my children or a measure of what kind of father you are, it simply is not. Maybe il have to just tell them when their adults that “I failed to rescue your childhoods because I could not use a computer and because I did not leave 1.5 mm of line space between two lines of words, so the judge reasoned I did not have my heart in it and therefore deemed me an unsuitable father, and then mums barrister walked all over me because I could not afford any help in court”. Maybe I’m wrong, maybe I’m just worrying to much but with the many stories I hear that’s certainly how it seems. Like you have to learn another trade to be able to rescue your children, how did being able to use a computer become a mandatory requirement for everything, inc being able to be a good father, for want if a better way of putting it I believe everything about this process is so very wrong, such situations should be able to be sorted out without all this paperwork and jargon in just a few weeks. It would help massively if ‘the system’ did not allow a situation to exist where a child can be kept away from one parent just because the other parent suddenly decides to do this, in the best interests of a child, a local authority should be able to impose mandatory supervised access from point of separation to hinder alienation manifesting and stand in the way of the severing of loving relationships, but then there wouldn’t be a ‘family law industry’ so I guess that will never happen. I’d say this set up is an international shame on a so called civilised society, it’s gone back worse than the old Roman system, it’s just as oppressive now but it’s just disguised very well and it survives because parents cannot realistically do anything about it. To sum up my rant I’d say it’s like your children have been kidnapped by a system (your immediately arrested if you go near them even though you have done nothing wrong) and then they are held ransom by that system until you have paid in to that system over 5,6, or 7 years and learned to be a computer wizz and practically a family law professional yourself. I’m now off to cease running my business and I buy a trolly full of ring binder folders and 200kg of paper.
I fully understand your concerns and agree with them. If you need help with any computer work I don't mind helping you. Let me know on here and I'll figure out a way of having a chat with you.
@@daviddunn7334 Hello David, that is a very kind offer... one thing that I have found humbling on my journey so far as a father trying to rescue his children from emotional abuse is the support of like minded fathers who feel the pain and grieving that separation brings on a daily basis, so from one caring Dad to another, thank you from the heart for that, I really thought a lot of that. As I said I was going to in my comment I did manage to get one ring binder folder today, and started doing a chronology, despite my anxiety around computers (I’m generally a technophobe) I have already been taught some computer stuff by my 71 year old father (shame on me at only 40 years old) and I may just be able to cope, I suppose it’s largely the volume of work that seems to be necessary ( 4 copies of the bundles I think is what you said !!) it’s so overwhelming, I too though do want to come across to a judge as dedicated by prepping this bundle at least somewhere near like the level of yours in the video and do also feel I want to completely present my case myself too, same as you, I believe that this alone holds weight in demonstrating sincerity to a judge and I believe I can do it (I’m going it completely alone in court). So l will continue to have a stab at this task and if I think I could use some help I will give you a shout but I hate burdening people who all have their own families to take care of. I do hope you are maintaining a relationship with your boy ? I’ve not seen or been allowed a phone call to my four children for two and a half years now, I did take it to court some time ago but withdrew because it was so stressful it was making me il. Sorry to rant over your video. Kind regards. Tom.
is it necessary for a case summary..? i already have a c.a.o. however the respondent has stopped all contact. i have applied to vary it based on safefuarding concerns..child has disclosed physical abuse to police /teachers/social workers of being smacked/ears pulled etc. my index is position statement, witess statement, exibits , c100, directions orders, existing orders what would case sumamry be in this. what would the case summary be in this ?
A case summary is not always necessary however it does give the judge a chance to have an overview of the case. The key to a successful case summary is to keep it neutral which is particularly difficult when you are a party to proceedings. Please also remember that the case summary and index have to be agreed between parties before the hearing.
@@daviddunn7334 ok thanks. Getting an index agreed would be really difficult as me and ex are not on good terms and as it stands she doesn't have a solicitor acting.
@@moshazza5684 If it's likely to cause issues then don't get it agreed to but DO make sure all documents of your partner's are included
@@daviddunn7334 ok will do can u give me an example..So far I don't gave anything from her. I'm a litigant in person. Waiting on cafcass report. I have my position and witness statement. The existing order. Direction orders chronology and summary. I won't get her statement before submission date very unlikely as solicitors always leave till last minute knowing they'll get away with it.
@@moshazza5684 So the application itself needs to be in there too, the notice of hearing if you have one
To everyone who's commented and subscribed, I've been pondering an idea for a while now. For a couple of years I acted as a McKenzie Friend in the Family Court of England and Wales. Some cases were notable, others not so much. I've been thinking about uploading vlogs on how I found the family court including the uphill battle some people face, the bizarre decisions judges make and how the law allows them to do so etc. If it's something that would be of interest, please let me know on here or follow my twitter @dabadee57
Very interested in your experience of judges rulings! In a similar position my self and it's making me so depressed regarding the system!
Would be interested in hearing that if you uploaded! :)
This is very good information. Thank you for taking the time to share it. The family court should put this on their website.
Thank you
Thank you so much, this is really helpful. We are representing ourselves as we have lost faith in the legal system and which is far too expensive.
You're welcome. This video is a few years old now but the same principles still apply and given the antediluvian way of the family court, nothing has changed. If you need a hand with your case feel free to drop me an email david.dunn@gmx.co.uk
Thank you so much for sharing this, I've been stressing about this bundle now I I know exactly what to do.
It seems that a lot of the information i am having to put down is the same from one document to the next. Ie Case summary and Statment of issues. is this normal or have i made a mistake
The case summary changes for each hearing. A lot of the time the Court will only read the case summary and position statements prior to the hearing. So yes, it's perfectly normal
In the bundle how would you put in digital video evidence on a cd or memory card and where should it be?
Supply it it on a usb stick to judge and all parties and annex it
So that be the numbered sections and annex listed in the index ? I have the whole bundle on the sd card along with the Digital video evidence to exhibit and I also have a hard copy bundle along with the sd card.
If you have referred to it in a statement, annex it to that statement as an exhibit so...exhibit ab4 video of xyz handed to all parties and the court on a usb stick
@david Dunn just wanted to say a massive thank you for this such a great help , just preparing my case myself...thank you
Brilliant, fantastic, kind, helpful I could go on, Thank you your video is excellent
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That is very kind of you to put this video on here. It is really helpful for someone like me who is acting in person in the absence of any other support system. Bless you.
Very informative and a great help. Is there anywhere to get a Template for free that i can use many thanks
I have templates for all the documents but you would need to tell me which ones you need. Feel free to drop me an email....daviddunn@familycourtassist.co.uk
Massive help thank you so much
Thank you! Really helpful.
Okay, this is very helpful but how do you apply to log and create the bundle yourself especially if your the Litigant in person??? if the other side has a solicitor, they'll want to create the bundle themselves......I want to do it my self and fight this battle.
By law the Applicant is responsible for the bundle. If you are LiP it is normal for the other party's solicitor to prepare the bundle. If you want to do it yourself and you are the Applicant, you have every right to
This has been a huge help. Thank you and good luck.
You're welcome bud. Give me a shout if you need any help at all www.familycourtassist.co.uk
This video was really helpful I didn't have a clue what I was doing but won my case after watching this. Thankyou very much for posting it