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@@NerdChamps They haven’t used the Fantastic Four or the X-Men… Those teams both used to be way more popular than the Avengers. They have plenty of story to tell. The X-Men alone could be an entire phase of the MCU.

@comicbookcinema Fox already did the X-Men and they did them pretty well. The best new and novel thing Marvel could do with them is have them interact with the rest of their characters, but those characters are gone. The X-Men could be a good starting point for a whole new continuity.

@@NerdChamps Minimum $600 million

​@@comicbookcinemaTo turn a profit?

​@comicbookcinema Because Thunderbolts won't break $300. The Marvel name alone doesn't sell tickets anymore, and Thunderbolts has nothing else to sell them.

It's like they don't realize they can't keep this single narrative going forever.

@@danjr19 they just need to stop the continuity.

@timcollins2471 They're a full-fledged studio now, so they have to churn out something. I'd rather that be low-profile stuff because they really need to have an absence before a reboot.

@@danjr19 I think things are going to scale back a lot post-Secret Wars… Just calm down, guys.

​@@comicbookcinemaThat's a lot of garbage between now and then.

@@NerdChamps You have always used this point, but it’s a good one… I have heard rumblings that we are still potentially going to get a Ruffalo Hulk Vs. Hugh Wolverine movie… That would be epic

@comicbookcinema The Hulk rights are just so sticky. It would have to be titled as a Wolverine movie or they'd have to give Universal some of the distribution.

At this point, Cap 4 has a massive uphill battle ahead of them… I think they have to make $500 million just to break even, and that might not happen… 😂

@comicbookcinema I've seen speculation that the box office will have to hit $700 - 800 at the box office to break even. Of course we'll never know for sure.

The Punisher GOAT 🐐

Just like the comics, it’s never ending! 😂 Now we do multiverse and later something else!

@@comicbookcinema exactly. The biggest crime these studios commit is not knowing when a story has gone as far as it can go. Reintroducing actors as different characters has similar desperation to soap opera evil twins. It's time to just move on to a different continuity.

@@timcollins2471 I partially agree with you on this. I definitely think bringing RDJ back as Doctor Doom is desperate, but I’m curious to see how Secret Wars pans out. I also think RDJ will only be back for the next two Avenger films. Marvel can’t afford to have him back for more movies than that. I also think they will massively scale things back after Secret Wars. Just trust in my boy, Feige. 😂

​@comicbookcinema Eventually, when things get this bad, the comics reboot. The need for reboots comes faster in live action films because not all actors are immortal vampires like Hugh Jackman, and they can't play the same superhero for 40 years.

​@@comicbookcinemaFeige is a Bob Iger stooge. I'm more convinced every day Ike Perlmuter was the secret to the MCU's success.

They have always had the right pieces. They have the best source material in the world to base their movies off of! 😁

@@comicbookcinema I would say DC comics have more characters to make masterpiece with. Like pretty much every batman villain can have their own movies and the Anitimonitor is my favorite dc character.

@@LuxersMultiverse2090 I’m hopeful and optimistic about the future of the new DCU with James Gunn in charge. 🙏🏻

I’m rooting for him. I hope he’s great as Mr. Fantastic. 🙏🏻 He definitely has the potential to be a great Reed. I just hope they don’t make Reed too much like Tony Stark

Yeah… Sam is a great character. I just don’t see why in the comics and now in the movies, they feel like they need to slap the Captain America label on him to make him feel more important. 🤷🏻‍♂️ I think the Falcon character is just as valuable without the rebrand.

@@comicbookcinema Yes , he is . I like how good of a man he is .

Legacy versions of heroes are just not my favorite. And generally, the public doesn't care for them either. If they don't buy Dick Grayson as Batman, then they won't buy anyone else.

@@timcollins2471 Right… Bruce Wayne is Batman & Steve Rodgers is Captain America. It doesn’t suddenly elevate these other characters to take the mantle of a more popular hero.

Wow… I have never thought about that possibility, but that is so cool and interesting. 🤔

Pretty much. 😂 Definitely a DIFFERENT take

I don’t really include the quality of the films he was in when I rank his portrayal. Mostly just his acting chops and the way he looks in the suit. But, to be fair… I like Man of Steel a lot more than most. 🤷🏻‍♂️ Everyone has a different opinion though. Thanks for watching and sharing yours! 😁👍🏻

There was definitely a lot of potential in the DCEU. I hate to see it deleted, but I’m also excited and hopeful about the new DCU! 😁

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This is something I have never thought about until Joker’s Anarchy brought this up on this episode, but it could be pretty awesome… 🤔

​@@comicbookcinemaRead Batman/Catwoman by Tim King.

Yeah with Hamill

The tattoos were a big part of the problem. Especially the forehead tattoo. 😂

Yeah. We didn’t bring up some of his cringy dialogue like “hunka hunka” 😂 But, I agree. I definitely preferred the gansta version over the nightmare version.

Where would you rank Jarid Leto’s version?

You might be right. 🤷🏻‍♂️

​@@comicbookcinemano , he's not right at all

😂 That’s definitely how most people feel.

You might be right, Tim… 🤔 He’s pretty much at the bottom for me. I DID appreciate that they tried to do something different, but overall it wasn’t even close to being good. 😂🤷🏻‍♂️

@@comicbookcinema they wanted something completely different from recent versions. But they missed the boat on so many key aspects of the character.

@@timcollins2471 Yep… The “Damaged” tattoo on the forehead definitely wasn’t a great start. 😂

Still ranks above Phoenix in that this is actually a version of the Joker.

@@DanJohnsonJr-h9p That’s your opinion and your interpretation. 🤷🏻‍♂️ I completely disagree

Yeah… The tattoo certainly doesn’t do him any favors. 😂

It works for any joker adaptation really, write “chaos” on Ledger’s head and I’d hate that one too.

@@1morecuppo Right… 😂 At some point you would think someone in the creative department at Warner Bros would have spoke up and said: “Does anyone else think this is freakin stupid or is it just me?”

​@@comicbookcinema No one wanted to admit they didn't think face tattoos were cool and look old.

@@DanJohnsonJr-h9p 😂 Face tattoos aren’t cool no matter how old you are.

😂😂😂 Yeah. Definitely no love lost there. He had potential… I just don’t know if it was ever fully realized.

He was literally made for the role of Superman

@comicbookcinema And, apparently, your hall pass list. 😉

Films are subjective. Nothing you can say or do will make me like it less. Doesn’t change the fact that we can argue about it on RUclips, though! 😂

This can not and WILL not stand!

@NerdChamps so whatcha gonna do about it sir

@@trevpanda852 Keep spreading the good word! Man of Steel is not great! It's not even good! It doesn't even feature a character that is in any way recognizable as Superman, other than visually.

@NerdChamps okay so by that logic is Christopher Nolans batman also very bad since his batman isn't to accurate either? Like I get they come from a source aka comic aka literal paper pages but I believe when they adapted this superman they really tried to get away from the mcu feel and create their own which is more grounded then compared to mcu, yes I know it doesn't mean it's a good movie or even a great one but I think personally it's a good take on superman like I mean it was the beginning of his heroism ofc he's not perfect or up to your standards he was only beginning with being the man the people needed but I respect your opinion and I agree they could've done so much better with the coloring and making the movie feel more alive and hopeful like how his world looks

Classic line from the third best joker 😎

@comicbookcinema If you think Nicholson is third, you're an A 1 nut boy, and Grissam knows it!

@@NerdChamps At best... Phoenix and Ledger are in a different league.

@comicbookcinema Yeah, Phoenix is in the never played the Joker league. The, played a random nut case in a film meant as an insult league.

@@NerdChamps I think you are more delusional than Phoenix’s character in that movie, Dan! 😂

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😂😂😂 He kinda sounded like Gene Hackman? 🤷🏻‍♂️

@@comicbookcinema Yes, Gene Hackman voiced Mark's lines in Superman 4. There's still buildings and locations in England where the film was shot.

@@GavinScrimgeour That’s cool. Yeah, this movie holds a special place in my heart. I grew up watching this all the time. I always thought Nuclear Man was the coolest looking super villian when I was a kid.

@@comicbookcinema There's a RUclips video showing all the locations. I remember seeing the film at the cinema and have since watched it. To be honest it was rushed and underfunded. You can see loads of mistakes in the film too 🫣

@@GavinScrimgeour Oh yeah… Their budget was cut in half before production began supposedly… This film could have been so much better. I personally still love Mark Pillow’s interpretation of Nuclear Man.

Probably true 😂

Feel ya dawg… 😂

😂😂😂😂 Ultimate beer goggles

Are you talking about the first Joker movie or the recently released sequel? 🤔

You can find him on social media at: The Joker’s Anarchy on Facebook and or Instagram. I met him on the opening night of Deadpool and Wolverine in Ohio. He’s a cool dude

Thanks

😂😂😂 I thought the same when I first watched this back listening to him say Hakeem. Thanks man! 🙏🏻 I’ve been grinding awhile now on my editing for this channel. The kind words are appreciated

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That’s how most people feel… You could really see that the director and star weren’t fans of the comic books and didn’t want to make a third movie

​@comicbookcinema They didn't want to make a first or second movie. They've been desperately trying to insult fanboys the whole time. They're probably furious there are small pockets left who don't get that they're being disrespected.

@@NerdChamps I disagree with you about the first film. It was obviously something Todd Phillips and Joaquin Phoenix were passionate about. You wouldn’t know though, you haven’t seen the movie! 😂

@comicbookcinema I know plenty. They were passionate about making a lame remake of Martin Scorsese's The King Of Comedy starring DeNiro and Jerry Lewis because that's their idea of being original, but in 2019, no one will buy a ticket to THAT. No one will buy a ticket to an ACTUAL Martin Scorsese movie, so the studio made them shoehorn a character called "Joker" into it.

@comicbookcinema You weren't supposed to like it. Fanboys were supposed to hate it. They consider all of us immature, incels, just like Arthur. We're not supposed to be able to grasp the emotional complexity of something as deep as a cheap ripoff of a 37, now 41 year old film.

All film is subjective… 🤷🏻‍♂️

I agree. We actually liked it too

@@googalacticgoo That’s the beauty of film… Every individual has a different experience. Thanks for watching, my friend. 🙏🏻

like half the theater was out-loud laughing and cringing when we saw on opening night.

@@ahohd No one was in the theater when I saw it opening weekend. 😂