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@@cyanide7270 heres the share ID 1LZ8EC6DYP3V

@@ero9841 did I play against blast in here?

It is def a dense game. One thing I learned late was the value of recoil in arms, followed by firing specialization, then finally as much stats as fits your weight. I didnt really play kite style play, but as they increased recoil a lot i started to see gow important it was to go in test and mag dump both guns and ensure you arent blooming.

A trick i do is to go into the image editor and create "textures" rather than pictures. Then just stamp the texture overlapping all over the part I choose. My flamethrower build vid has a really good example of this.

Ah I meant to say 470, and there is a speedometer on the left side of your screen. AB and reg boost have thresholds at certain weights that start to have major drop offs as you go past. The boosters stat effectively is your ceiling but your weight drags you down. I think the thresholds are around 62k, 74, 85, and 100k

@InAVanByTheRivr cool, thanks!

Deflects are a minor part of the game and honestly need the middle weight ranges buffed as the painful weapons like zimms/smgs tend to reach out too far against midweights. I came up with a quick hand tool though after testing. Resists vs deflect range based on weapons effective range (not ideal range) 1000 = 120% 1100 =104% 1200 =90% 1300 =80% 1400 =68%

@@Excalibaard oh to be clear, it isnt "% chance to cause deflect", its % of listed effective range for that weapon is where deflecting starts happening 100% of the time. Ex, if your weapon has 200 effective range, and the opponent has 1200 resist to that weapon, your weapon will start deflecting at X% of the effective range

Thanks for the clarification! Makes sense that the overall amount of ricochet should increase with higher resistances! I suppose that between the ideal range (0% ricochet) and your resistance-modded effective range (100% ricochet) has some sort of linear scale in between, or the ideal range is altered by the same degree to keep the damage curve similar? I'm inspired to do some tests of my own now 😁

@Excalibaard deflection just always occurs once you cross a certain thresholds of disyance based on the resistances

​​@@unknownentity2352 See 39:00 i can understand why youd think that but this order is necessary for double pistol rush down matchups. The 61PB does not have long parry windows (its more of a flash parry that you prioritize a strong trade in your right hand) and we want ensure the ducket is firing for maximum burst impact anyways, that we can trade a shielded duckett of our own against their 2x duckett salvo for example. The attache is a marginal impact/sec in 0.4s and fires around the IG flash seamlessly compared to slowing the duckett and its 315 impact burst hitting like a mini shotgun. The attache on the right would be great with the 61PS and its 0.6s IG used between ducket shots. Again the pb is more of a flash parry used to make a single burst trade so we use the strongest burst impact hand weapon.

also an argument for the coquilette is the reload time is about 33% faster than the duckett, so the magazine being 1 bullet less is kind of negated in respect to consistency. not to mention looks like hal arms start to get overburdened by the duckett's recoil.

@unknownentity2352 yeah i really struggled deciding between the two. In the end the bonus range was the deciding factor for me as the toughest matchup that is definitely winnable, is kites, and getting one or two extra shots in that dont deflect is a major deal

@@stereotypecaster projetile speed and sustained fire so not much reloading at inopportune times (its tied with the etsi and slightly faster than ARs so it hits at range better against lightweights )

​​​@@InAVanByTheRivrso the Attache's reliable pressure (high projectile velocity and uptime) is worth the trade in raw DPS/IPS because you have the tankiness (defenses/PB) to draw the damage race out? Sorry for the flood of questions, there's not a lot of content online covering part synergies and your videos go a long way toward filling that gap!

@stereotypecaster pretty much, we have a pistol in our right hand, paired with the PB shield this is effectively like trading as though we had two ducketts (both bc we are blocking the first 2-3 of their salvos ideally, and also because the attache firing is preventing the duckett from impact decaying to its accum impact, essentially it stays at 315 impact per shot pretty reliably. All this in mind, it is worth giving up the etsis raw impact as we are stacked in that regard, for the range of attache, but also for the steady and reliable fire in the large mag without needing to reload and surrender our impact build up to its accum impact value before staggering

@@GloriousGEO long time no see geo!

@@InAVanByTheRivr yo! Glad u still keeping the ac videos going

5k baby

@@One_Beeyond git IN there. Lol i thought i had exhausted all potential off meta viable options a month and change ago, then now Im on a prolific creativity spree. I actually have a backlog of builds to record, capturepvp footage and publish still. But when im stucl after a week with an item, i put it aside, work on something else, and come back after a break. The flamethrower gave me a serious headache but now its a fav build of mine. Taking a short break unlocks ideas and new perspective

I reset save file so my partner could play through fresh, but when we get all unlocks I’ll be back. I’ve been kicking around an aorta build. We’ll see where that goes.

@@juancolon123 faster even than me

Because the lrb/pistol can fire behind the shield deploys. More valuble than the stagger punish is ensuring we can win the stagger race in cqb in the first place, and block opponent nukes/lasers/linear rifle shots while trading lrb shots at medium range.

@@jennashinx6939 im on ps5 controller

@@guitarlover42 haha i have a couple tetras. The main issue with running a tetra was the rifle kite matchup (which is really common). Youd be hoping for a good map role most of the time.

@@RyanWithersAway cheers! Several more are almost done. Just need footage

Have just realized that vengeance uses a pulse machine gun instead of grenade launcher but this video'll still help for other buildss

@@dontnerfmebro8052 doubtful lol, as I said in tge vid, the fix to 2x zimm is obvious. Reduce accum impact to near zero and have the weapon function as a great stagger finisher but poor stagger buildup

@InAVanByTheRivr i just dont understand how his game reinforces so much lack of diversity and creativity. I dont understand why they have a 2 second reload, why hey have range, why they can be stagger shot. Hell i dont even understand why you can freaking dual wield them. Theyre impossible to kite or lose the impact from them, their spread makes them impossible to dodge on anything over 6k weight.... ive used them both pre and post nerf and o honestly couldnt tell the difference. Add a shield or laser drones and its like you discovered the designer's favorite set up. They way From bends over backwards to accomadate such a mind numbing set up is baffling.

Ah yeah circling throws off thw fcs and lets you spend your entire en bar ABing away without wasting en on qb shuffles. Particularily useful on the alula given its poor en management

@InAVanByTheRivr i also dont get why kicks after stagger are garanteed. It doesnt matter if you qb twice, to the side or up, if you were staggered you get four zimmer shots anf a kick to the face, a brainless true combo. Meanwhile with the laser pistols, if they have 99% stagger built up you can pepper them until the guns overheat and you still wont get stagger.

@@seyakain3301 this would, tie nicely with the salad arms i think

@@InAVanByTheRivr Are you saying the Salad Arms as a next build around, or that the KRSV would pair nicely with them, or both? O.o

@seyakain3301 both lol

@@chasehennessy3370 I did try to use them as a stagger punish enhancement but the bug to their tracking has not been fixed (currently 45m stops tracking instead of 4m or 5m like other missiles.) Likely a fat finger at fromsoft that was never patched.

@@Excalibaard lol funny you say, I actually have a build with it on the go. I have challenge builds almost done for SALAD Arms, laser orbit, LS shotgun, and maybe coral shield

@InAVanByTheRivr ooh laser orbit is another I'll be looking forward to then! Great stagger maintain at range & surprising damage (for kiting with double LR)

@@mussoldemitjanit i use the hokoshi often in many of my previous build vids. The hokoshi is the larger capacity lightweight, high en support gen of choice. Really common on lightweight melee using coral weapons for example. Its like a blend between the santai and the VE20C. Also commonly used on >335 boost speed RJs. I think my next build vid is gonna end up needing it actually. I also use it on my sword and shield build i believe.

I saw a interesting build, Turner, pulse missile on right, pulse blade , Bunk on left, with Nacht Core, Head, legs with Firmeza arms allula boost and Hokushi. If u don’t want all the switching switch the pulse missile for something like the standard 6 cell or a vertical 🤔 or do something like a modified Rusty build, switch the Sampu with the Etsujin, switch the 3 cell plasma with and regular or split missile, change laser slicer as needed 🧐🫡⚔️ Ex Thrower is also an option for either build 🔥

@@valeriob36 i believe its 90 meters but it has activating frames so your opponent moving may put them out of range. Unless they have high jump distance legs though its likely your fcs. Abbot/ocellus are common on the wuerger to make it highly reliable

I made a joke melee 2x launcher but its not really viable lol, lack of ability to pressure anything that doesnt advance towards you.

@InAVanByTheRivr True 😅 I'm trying it out & my pressure tools are limited to jousting with a single Zim, or melee cancel feinting into a single moonlight.

Appreciate you, glad you like the content!

True and even better that the build runs talbot and can capitalize on softlock

also very nice moves!

@@bucky2900 thanks Tzen! Welcome to the channel

@@gabiconstantin2937 this build is particularily fun against all the lightweight high impact builds like vientos, pistols etc. The big test of skill is knowing how to get the health lead and force opponents into your flamethrower. Second, is not interupting the parry window by habit like its the 61PS shield!

The gills is crucial on this build for a couple reasons. In order of importance: Vertical thrust and vertical thrust efficency are extremely important especially on a coral gen as it is the primary way to escape the flame for opponents once we close the gap and have transitioned to shielding/flaming. Alula would be fine if we could AB and shield at the same time but alas. 2nd) In order to get the defenses/stability lifted and synergize with the shield, we need to run a bit heavier than the alulas ideal weight. This would make the alula have a qb reload penalty and end up at 0.4s where the gills 0.31. It might not sound like a lot but this really matters against dual pistol/zimm rushdown. Its effectively a 30% longer vulnerability window. This would also clash with the high recoil/sec of the flamethrower and cause bloom if we try to fire during the whole down time, requiring manual timing. 3rd) the gills qb EN efficency allows us to squeeze out more qbs per EN capacity, meaning less vulnerability time when the shield is cooling, which is the difference between getting staggered or not for most lightweights. Think of it as, alula would mean there is a ~ 1.0s vulnerability window vs 0.5s window at the end of qb spam once your shield is overheated. Plus the alula has that extra 30% window between wbs.

@@Zakat82 it would exceed the ideal weight of the gills, incurring a qb reload penalty. Additionally the loss of capacity would severely hurt chasedown of lws who backpedal especially because shiffling is extensively used. Lastly the weight would impact the boost speed while the shield is up. You could get around some of this by downgrading the missiles but that would be tge difference between a full stagger to acs anon.ed lws or not.

@@InAVanByTheRivr also, would BML-G2/P19SPL-12 work better then BML-G2/P17SPL-16 ? It's a slight damage/impact drop but an increase in overall DPS because of the faster reload and lock-on speed. Anyway, thank you for a detailed explanation and for making these awesome non meta builds.

@Zakat82 from a volume of fire perspective those missiles do better over time, but tge heavy missiles when they do connect essentially do >1500 impact and also hit harder as a stagger punish if they do land during acs. The flame obscuring makes their reliability very high anyways and so I reasoned that the volume of fire was less needed than maximizing the benefit from acs anomaly and also for damage/impact in one single burst especially against kites where we wouldnt have time to get a second salvo before burning through en regardless of which missile we took anyways

No way!

That build was too fragile to make that work. I think they were going for a missile kite that uses the double zimm against rushdown. The following match at 26:00 shows what happens if he tried. The AP bleed in the flame is brutal, and even after they finally exhaust the shield, they are taking a heavy split missile salvo from behind right after, plus the coquillet magazine all while its flame enhanced and I am qb spamming between single shots. Its really hard to rush this build down in other words. The best weakness to exploit is the range of the flame and pistol when I need to AB them

@@InAVanByTheRivr yeah but still trying to ahhh that makes more sense but there are better weapons to use than zimms for kiting. Also, you actually do have a pretty cool build which actually gave me an idea how to rework one of my builds!

Omg thats hilarious, im using that from now on

I just might steal that too😂

QUICK SALT FLARE!

man pulled a V.IV Rusty and withdrew

Its got time stamps so you can skip breakdowns. Not everyone cares about that breakdown I know

@@InAVanByTheRivr Bro I have nothing against breakdowns, but you can't make 15 minutes breakdown in a 30 min video 😭😭😭