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There's a lot of individual structures or settlements that just stopped existing, but this is much more of a grey area than that in my opinion. There's a few locations around that general CENTRAL EASTERN KINGDOMS region that could be referenced by the Temple of the Damned location. The most prevalent of these being the Altar of the Damned/Storms (I don't remember it's exact name) located near Blackrock Spire in Burning Steppes. There's also a lot of space tucked between Burning Steppes and Elwynn Forest that are entirely inaccessible, which could be argued contain an array of old locations, based on the orcs and dragons that are regularly seen brawling between the zones when you're on certain flight paths. While this is a completely fair point, we also have to accept that after the Horde was pushed back through the Dark Portal, a LOT of structures and locations were wiped off the map as well, so this really didn't ping my radar compared to everything else I included in this.

Thank you, glad people appreciate my perspective.

What? No, you weren't even paying attention.

@@TheDanNation 50/50, Anything that has to do with the structure and laws set as mortals can definitely be excused as "This isn't your grandpas Silver Hand anymore." with "all" those members dead or gone, the Stormwind Paladin Order (as I would nickname them) would actually be able to set up their own rules. Especially if it is to fit a new idea, this happens to religions a lot, "We used to be peaceful, but now we fight for every breathe we take. Pick up the sword or there won't be a human kingdom to pray in soon!"

@@gendor5199 I would love that, if they had done literally anything to show that in game, show it was a different organization, or an organization that split off in some way. My complaint is not necessarily that it happened, but that no one showed any of their work from how we got from A to X.

@@TheDanNation I can get behind that! There is a lot of lost potential in the game overall.

I'll forever love the Tauren

It's a part of pfUI

So by name, I think "Curse of Flesh" wasn't introduced until early Wrath. HOWEVER the whole matrix instability discussion and how earthen were essentially devolved into flesh-like creatures comes directly from the end of Uldaman in late 2004 and I believe gives the Curse of Flesh a solid foundational start.

Right, it was Baron Longshore's first mate

In regards to Micky Neilson, I can't find what you're references, you need to provide specific links to support that. I will say, I respect a lot of what Micky Neilson did or tried to do with World of Warcraft, and understand he went through some serious struggles trying to get things done correctly, so I'll respect what he has to say. In regards to Nethaera, she's a community manager and forum moderator. While I don't discount the hard work she put in to her job with Blizzard, she isn't a legitimate accurate source of Lore information. In addition, she didn't join Blizzard until 2006, and I would assume never privy to any of the writing done between 2001 and 2004. In regards to Exploring Azeroth: Kalimdor, that was published in 2022, and as I've said on this channel previously, not only do I discredit most of the books in their entirety, but this channel is focused strictly on older, more well cemented lore, not later writings that have seen multiple layers of retcons and contradictions. With that in mind, I feel solid in my findings that in 2004-2005 lore, the first druids were Tauren. Based on what you provide from Micky Neilson I will reconsider that position, but in regards to the rest of what you presented, I find they don't change my thoughts.

/warstomp

@@TheDanNation /taunt

Okay but what's Thunder Bluff then, huh? HHHHHMMMM?

@@TheDanNation a zone

@@curiouswind9196 A ZONE CAN BE A LEVEL OH MY LORT

@@TheDanNation level is just a number

The biggest insult was killing Cairne off-stage, without any kind of respect or decency he deserved.

Sure

With the hero selected, you right click on a lords army that isn't full, and then select the hero action you want to take.

@@TheDanNation many thanks.

I genuinely hope this is satirical, because to suggest "For the King!" is too heady for most WoW players is a bit ridiculous. I don't think at any point during your superiority-complex-ridden post did you stop to think how basic the "concepts" you are talking about are. Chivalry, feudalism, etc. are all things taught to *children* in grade school and early high school. Please, get over yourself. P.S. - No, western audiences are now and were then quite aware of terms like samurai, ninja, bushido, etc. The Jedi were *partially* influenced by eastern religion and philosophy, as far as the mystical side of the Force went. They were not copies of any and were not influenced by only them, but also by medieval knights of western culture as well. And, when it comes down to it, 'Jedi Knight' rolls off the tongue a lot better than 'Jedi Bushido' or 'Jedi Samurai' or 'Jedi Ronin'.

⁠ No, I was not writing a satire, there is nothing even remotely satirical in what I have written explaining the undercurrents of the issue and why it is such a human failure of cultural decency and a byproduct of modern degeneracy. As I have already said the average American knows almost nothing about feudal Europe and then goes and watches some atheistic pornographic degenerate fantasy nonsense like Game of Thrones and thinks that must have been what it was like. America is a corrupt society with a foundational culture of seeing itself as superior to its European predecessors. And for the record I own more than thirty books about the Middle Ages from the time of Charlemagne through the era of the crusades and the High Middle Ages. After American society industrialised they started worshipping consumerism by promoting the family above god instead of god above all, and started heretical protestant practises of using god to promote the father in a family as the highest authority within a community instead of the church. The bible states clearly it is best for both man and woman to be either chaste or celibate and wholly devoted to god’s purpose, but if you cannot overcome your base nature then you must be married, anything else is adultery and a sin. The holy official is above the married man or woman in a proper society. This correct version of the biblical scripture essentially would destroy consumerism and the corrupt hierarchy of American society from its foundation, and so Blizzard dared not actually give the public something real and actually holy. Morality as it is known comes from god and Christ’s church, even the corrupted degenerate atheist subjective morality taking over society today is derived originally from Christianity. You atheists love to pander to eastern religions and philosophies from a distorted lense that was originally derived from Christian morality, if you actually had to live in one of these pagan societies you so love you would be horrified, and likely enslaved, and possibly used as a human sacrifice. In fact your promotion of degeneracy is eventually going to lead to civilisation collapse. The Warcraft 2 Paladin was objectively the best Paladin Blizzard ever put into a video game, and they even had crosses on their breastplates, and the icon for using their ‘Holy Vision’ power was the double headed eagle crest of The Holy Roman Empire, derived from Charlemagne’s heraldry itself. Lastly, the Jedi have nothing in common with feudal knights and Europe. George Lucas is a self loathing liberal atheist who made the Europeans the bad guys and every other culture the good and ‘enlightened’ peoples. The Jedi ARE based on eastern religions and philosophies such a deism (duality, light side/dark side, good and evil creator deities), and Buddhism (the suppression of emotions and desires=what the Jedi never shut up about).

No, I was not writing a satire, there is nothing even remotely satirical in what I have written explaining the undercurrents of the issue and why it is such a human failure of cultural decency and a byproduct of modern degeneracy. As I have already said the average American knows almost nothing about feudal Europe and then goes and watches some atheistic pornographic degenerate fantasy nonsense like Game of Thrones and thinks that must have been what it was like. America is a corrupt society with a foundational culture of seeing itself as superior to its European predecessors. And for the record I own more than thirty books about the Middle Ages from the time of Charlemagne through the era of the crusades and the High Middle Ages. After American society industrialised they started worshipping consumerism by promoting the family above god instead of god above all, and started heretical protestant practises of using god to promote the father in a family as the highest authority within a community instead of the church. The bible states clearly it is best for both man and woman to be either chaste or celibate and wholly devoted to god’s purpose, but if you cannot overcome your base nature then you must be married, anything else is adultery and a sin. The holy official is above the married man or woman in a proper society. This correct version of the biblical scripture essentially would destroy consumerism and the corrupt hierarchy of American society from its foundation, and so Blizzard dared not actually give the public something real and actually holy. Morality as it is known comes from god and Christ’s church, even the corrupted degenerate atheist subjective morality taking over society today is derived originally from Christianity. You atheists love to pander to eastern religions and philosophies from a distorted lense that was originally derived from Christian morality, if you actually had to live in one of these pagan societies you so love you would be horrified, and likely enslaved, and possibly used as a human sacrifice. In fact your promotion of degeneracy is eventually going to lead to civilisation collapse. The Warcraft 2 Paladin was objectively the best Paladin Blizzard ever put into a video game, and they even had crosses on their breastplates, and the icon for using their ‘Holy Vision’ power was the double headed eagle crest of The Holy Roman Empire, derived from Charlemagne’s heraldry itself. Lastly, the Jedi have nothing in common with feudal knights and Europe. George Lucas is a self loathing liberal atheist who made the Europeans the bad guys and every other culture the good and ‘enlightened’ peoples. The Jedi ARE based on eastern religions and philosophies such a deism (duality, light side/dark side, good and evil creator deities), and Buddhism (the suppression of emotions and desires=what the Jedi never shut up about).

RUclips is censoring my responses I see.

No, I was not writing a satire, there is nothing even remotely satirical in what I have written explaining the undercurrents of the issue and why it is such a human failure of cultural decency and a byproduct of modern degeneracy. As I have already said the average American knows almost nothing about feudal Europe and then goes and watches some atheistic pornographic degenerate fantasy nonsense like Game of Thrones and thinks that must have been what it was like. America is a corrupt society with a foundational culture of seeing itself as superior to its European predecessors. And for the record I own more than thirty books about the Middle Ages from the time of Charlemagne through the era of the crusades and the High Middle Ages. After American society industrialised they started worshipping consumerism by promoting the family above god instead of god above all, and started heretical protestant practises of using god to promote the father in a family as the highest authority within a community instead of the church. The bible states clearly it is best for both man and woman to be either chaste or celibate and wholly devoted to god’s purpose, but if you cannot overcome your base nature then you must be married, anything else is adultery and a sin. The holy official is above the married man or woman in a proper society. This correct version of the biblical scripture essentially would destroy consumerism and the corrupt hierarchy of American society from its foundation, and so Blizzard dared not actually give the public something real and actually holy. Morality as it is known comes from god and Christ’s church, even the corrupted degenerate atheist subjective morality taking over society today is derived originally from Christianity. You atheists love to pander to eastern religions and philosophies from a distorted lense that was originally derived from Christian morality, if you actually had to live in one of these pegan societies you so love you would be horrified, and likely enslaved, and possibly used as a human sacrifice. In fact your promotion of degeneracy is eventually going to lead to civilisation collapse. The Warcraft 2 Paladin was objectively the best Paladin Blizzard ever put into a video game, and they even had crosses on their breastplates, and the icon for using their ‘Holy Vision’ power was the double headed eagle crest of The Holy Roman Empire, derived from Charlemagne’s heraldry itself. Lastly, the Jedi have nothing in common with feudal knights and Europe. George Lucas is a self loathing liberal atheist who made the Europeans the bad guys and every other culture the good and ‘enlightened’ peoples. The Jedi ARE based on eastern religions and philosophies such a deism (duality, light side/dark side, good and evil creator deities), and Buddhism (the suppression of emotions and desires=what the Jedi never shut up about).

There is a subtle difference, Void utilizes Shadow. Is there any real meaning or importance to that difference? Eh, not really, but I think that's more a fault of how edgelordy the Void has been written about.

Void is like shadow on meth.

Draenei and goblins got a lot of development at certain points. Dwarves are in a so much worst spot with gnomes, being always put at the second class humans in every story.

Oh how this comment aged badly. DoK changed the artstyle, but kept it faithful. HW3 has done the series dirty

Yeah, it's alive on Turtle at least, and most likely will be on EPOCH I think?

pfUI

So, I do get where you're going with this. HOWEVER, if you go back to my video on the Light and how it functions, even back during Vanilla it's my opinion that the Light was never a force of Good. I'd encourage you to review that video if you have time, as I think it helps people realize more of the initial idea of what the Light is going into the initial vision of World of Warcraft.

Fair reference here, as far as I'm aware though, Cataclysm isn't considered canon by BBI. I could very easily be wrong on this!

Was mentioned in the VR game so i think its canon

She had a word with the Taiidan manager

It's too late, you've angered the gazebo!

It's been that way since the original Total Warhammer, you're not wrong.