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The B17 was always too wide for me. I started with the B5N that came on my Raleigh Super Course in 1970. Eventually, I had to tie the skirts to keep them from chafing my thighs. They came pre-punched. Later, I upgraded to an International that came with a Pro. I liked it but ended up filing down rivet heads and punching and tying the skirts. I ended up using Cinellis, a couple Turbos, a Fizik Arione, a Flite, and a Bontrager Serano. The Arione looks cool but point on the back end is pretty much useless. I can't decide whether the Flite or the Serano is my all-time favorite.

Agree!

Mine's broken in. Rode a different saddle for my second bike, now I'm looking to buy for a second Brooks 😄. It's true what they say you have to keep using them for a long time before they become comfortable.

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Watching this video thinking it would be informative was a mistake

You compare apples with apples ,don't think so😢 you get what you pay for Aro 3 is good helmet in my opinion

Hi Dave, I bought a B17 and found you here saving birds :-) Hope you overcome your surgery and do your sport activities again. Bestest, Michael

hello. I am interested in whether they are worth buying. they are good to wear for walking.grettings from Slovenia

Like a good pair of leather boots, they need time to break in, but once achieved, they will be your go to. The Brooks saddle is no different.

Just bought a Brooks B17. Rode with it 1000KM. Within the first 10 hours, a center longitudinal ridge started to develop. Very painful as you sit on a spine. I contacted the company and they did everything possible to blame me, making assumptions about mishandling the saddle. I just rode it! Maybe it's a good saddle when not defective but if it is defective as mine was, the company will do everything they can to blame you and not take any responsibility, not even offering an exchange. Buy from better companies!

Lol! I got the same problem not with Brooks but with Selle Italia also leather, but I figure it is more a touring saddle. And I want to give it 3 months. If it doesn't sit righy by then I switch back.

Ive been riding a Brooks Pro (large rivets) for 45 years. For me, nothing else is close. Old Brooks are far superior than the new. Thicker leather, better rails. Just great. Ideale has been out of business for awhile. The old ones were great, although they sagged quicker than Brooks

They make a Brooks saddle that comes already softened and broken in called the B17 Softened.

What tires are you using? Almost went back there this morning but not sure my 34s were appropriate. Have some 38s but didn’t have them on. Are you on Strava? Would love to see the ride.

Good to know!! Thank you!!

Have you tried or considered the B17 narrow carved?

You sure it is heavy? It feels light to me where I got it from World of Wheels.

¡What a cool guy. Love the talk, the dog, and the tood! Be safe and happy.

The B17 could be used by the CIA as a torture device.

I have Brooks B17s on all three of my Dawes Ultra Galaxies and have cycled for three weeks on one of them cycling all the way to the Costa Blanca in Spain. The others I spent all day in the saddle for a week with loaded panniers slogging up the Pennine Cycleway. I have never had to worry about a sore backside or wearing padded shorts, just normal shorts,

Woww, great video. I have high volume feet, a wide shoe fits too loose and the standard ones fit just too tight. I hope these ones are the perfect fit. I am in between sizes 9.5 and 10; thus, I just ordered a 43 and 44 to give it a try. Hey I suffered for years without finding proper saddle. Well, I came across the Specialized Power Arch; may be it will work for you too!

Hola amigo que tanto se a decolorado con el sol el casco..??? Saludos desde Mexico

I just bought a used B17-S which is the women's version (9.65 inches long so about an inch and a half shorter then the regular B17, and 175mm wide which is 5mm wider then the standard) I got a really good price for it $80 and it looks barely used and it also has the laces. It will interesting, i also have wide sit bones 170ish and i'm 6'2 185lbs. I plan on slathering some Bicks Heavy Duty Leather Preserver on it to help break it in. I'll update this in about a month once I've gotten some miles on it.

Thanks for the review, I almost bought this helmet, but its size

The lens are replaceable. I just did it. Two minute job.

It went together easily in less than an hour. ruclips.net/user/postUgkxHL1v1R3NE5x4KiYfyt8dnQmyNYz7qi5L Make sure the front fork is forward or the pedals will hit the front tire. Tires are both a little soft so it needs air before I ride it. The rear wheel didn't come with a clamp regular bolts hold it on. The front had the clamp. No scratches out of box. Rims are a little off with a slight wobble. They could have spent more time with the spoke tool fixing the run out. So far out of the box I'm happy with it. I did replace the pedals with a nice aftermarket set. After riding it a bit my A$$ is a bit sore so I ordered another seat. Overall I'm nearly 60 and didn't ride a bike in 30 years. I like my new 29" Schwinn. It will be used for casual rides with my friend.

Nothing like trying to hear someone over music ffs

Thank you for such an amazingly informative and frank review. Well Done!

watching this back years later and its so funny about the no lace holes on the side. It's leather, punch a hole in it lol and throw some lacing on it. Then you do that... I spoke too soon

so basically you made a mistake ga

You're retrofitting a long touring saddle for some sort of competitive ultra comfort whatever saddle. Brooks is the wrong saddle for what you need.

The question is “do you break the saddle in, or does the saddle break you in?”

Needs to be broken in more, if it still sounds like wood when knocked on...

I have one gun metal grey...with the red lettering and black outline..it was 99percent new never ridden found it in a pawn shop for 150..talk about a bargain

It works

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Why!? Because not everyone has the same experience as you! The b17 saddle in my opinion is leaning more towards a bike that is more neutral to an upright position. If you were looking for a racier saddle then the ones designed to be more narrow would be the better choice. You can also as you mentioned punch some holes in and lace it up. I've seen it down plenty of times!.

I have a B17 which is over 60 years old and is so comfy! Now that's value for money!

Can you peel off that nasty size sticker on the front of the Aro5 matte helmets without screwing up the helmet??

Brooks hurtchs my crontch

I sold mine.. it was hard and slippery.. and never got better

Even a good design fine for many will never be best for all.... I found some great cheap saddles in a Target once, bought all 3, never saw 'em again. The wholesale buyer is never a biker.

Thanks for review. I had a Selle Anitomica that I sold with the bike a while back. It road awesome almost felt like a cloud. I may get a Brooks with the springs also., I have to see if has cut out...

Takes about a ragbrai and a half to break one in

The b17 is by far the most comfortable saddle out there if you got a normal ass.

Hope you’re still cruising

I picked one up,3 weeks ago,figured that at $70.00 (can), worst case scenario ,I'd resell it,or leave it on a garage shelf of it didn't work out,turns out being my favorites helmet which I also use for racing.

You can take the “L” stickers off?

My experience with the Brooks B-17 is that it was quite comfortable when it was new, but as it's broken in it has developed a ridge in the centre that causes severe chafing of the taint. I tried loosening the bolt to see if it would help but the taint-ridge remains. I admit I fell for the hype around Brooks saddles, but my experience has left me with the opinion that they belong ONLY on bikes with a very upright position, which is none of the bikes I own. I suspect that the models that have a cutout might not have this problem but I think I'll still switch to something else.