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The Enneagram: The Discernment of Spirits (Conclusion)
Spoken and Written by Richard Rohr. All credit, respect, and my thanks goes to him and his team
Disclaimer: I didn't make this nor do I inherently agree with everything spoken. (Additional Disclaimer in comment section)
This series is made years ago back when DVD's were a thing and so I've spent weeks trying to hunt down the video files until I found them on Vimeo.
Disclaimer: I didn't make this nor do I inherently agree with everything spoken. (Additional Disclaimer in comment section)
This series is made years ago back when DVD's were a thing and so I've spent weeks trying to hunt down the video files until I found them on Vimeo.
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The Enneagram: The Discernment of Spirits (Types 5, 6, 7, 8, 9)
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Spoken and Written by Richard Rohr. All credit, respect, and my thanks goes to him and his team Disclaimer: I didn't make this nor do I inherently agree with everything spoken. (Additional Disclaimer in comment section) This series is made years ago back when DVD's were a thing and so I've spent weeks trying to hunt down the video files until I found them on Vimeo
The Enneagram: The Discernment of Spirits (Types 1 2 3 4)
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Spoken and Written by Richard Rohr. All credit, respect, and my thanks goes to him and his team Disclaimer: I didn't make this nor do I inherently agree with everything spoken. (Additional Disclaimer in comment section) This series is made years ago back when DVD's were a thing and so I've spent weeks trying to hunt down the video files until I found them on Vimeo.
The Enneagram: The Discernment Of Spirits (Introduction)
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Spoken and Written by Richard Rohr. All credit, respect, and my thanks goes to him and his team Disclaimer: I didn't make this nor do I inherently agree with everything spoken. (Additional Disclaimer in comment section) This series is made years ago back when DVD's were a thing and so I've spent weeks trying to hunt down the video files until I found them on Vimeo.
I’m a Christian type 5 and I’d say that it’s pretty spot on. I’m part of the prayer team and Bible study I love research and my alone time and theories when I’m unhealthy I can rant about my secluded theories which doesn’t happen as much any more, thank goodness but I’ve realized my hearts desire is to be a counselor because of my love of observation and objection to difficult situations. And touching is not my thing lol which is strange because as a child I loved affection and my mother an absolute robot with emotions rejected me. I wonder if that also played a part? But I absolutely love to hug and kiss my grand babies, just love it!
I am a seven, but wow i used to be one. Usually the first to show up at a party and the last to leave. Wish i could find the portion where Fr. Richard discusses 7s
When he talked about the 2. the biggest Image in my mind was Christa/Historia from Aot
14:00 a point more poignant today where we see that they have not only used war " to make the world safer" but have resorted to all out genocide.
If the 9 is who we all once were then the 6 is who we all are now. Lol.
USA is 6. Fear based religious Christian society. Talking about original sin often.. like this speaker, lol
Everyone in this realm is a 6. Demons created and rule this hell realm (earth) by fear. Religion (yes, especially Christianity) is their calling card to pull you in. Guilt and shame is their masterpiece work of art. All the other numbers are adjuncts to 6. 3 and 9… the triangle formed with 6, is the base. N America is 3-6-9. So is Israel and England. Not just 3. Any past ruling entity (Rome) is 3-6-9.
Original sin is BS. I hate religious talk. I’m suffering through the religious talk in this video because I want to go deeper into the enneagram. as in the title of video. Spirits. Spiritual attracts me, religious does not. Have always known no 6 is universal. This hell realm we live in is a 6 trap. It’s all 6. We did not create this hell 6 realm. Everyone has 6. And 9 and 3 too. The other numbers are adjunct.
I ended up being fortunate to have my type pointed out by a long time enneagram teacher. Type 6. I thought I was a 4. I am a 6 as I can see how my inner spirit child is a 9. Gurdjieff originated the enneagram and didn’t want it to be commercial or religious. It had nothing to do with personality assessment. God does not exist. This is a great video but I hate religion and the bible itself is evil as is Jehovah. Yes, J.R.R. Tolkien is completely resonate. Subtlety. Enneagram.
Thanks for posting! I love his approach and all his books - a true reformer! Someone asked at the end about how to redeem your type - insight is a start but I feel that consciously relaxing the nervous system is key. Our compulsions are defense strategies so we can access the True Self when we are present and relaxed. Working with the body center is primary and he did mention expelling the energy prior to contemplation. Using all 3 centers is key - insight, compassion and relaxation.
1:26:05 Same :(
False self- EGO True Self - GOD
Power of Now
Jung - Individualisation
Buddha fundamentals
TAOISM
Brilliant thank you for sharing
This is incredible. Thank you so much!
You don't need this garbage! This is nothing more than another horoscope
You would think that if Giorgivanic -Mr. Gurdjieff had thought that anything about types could be extracted from the engram, or the law governing he-line-of-the-flow-of-forces-constantly-deflectingaccording-to-law-and-uniting-again-at-its-ends, " he would have said so but he does *Not*
How in eath do theloons and fraudsters mannage to extract from the enneagram which is a two-dimensional sympobol of the law of seven or Heptaparaparshinokh, which to quote Mr.Gurdjieff :" present-day objective cosmic science, by the way, formulates in the following words: “‘The-line-of-the-flow-of-forces-constantly-deflectingaccording-to-law-and-uniting-again-at-its-ends?How fcuk do they manage to extract that mumbojumbo about types from a diagram of that law which has *fcuk_nothing* to do with types of anything?You would think that if Giorgivanic -Mr. Gurdjieff had thought that anything about types could be extracted from the engram, or the law governing he-line-of-the-flow-of-forces-constantly-deflectingaccording-to-law-and-uniting-again-at-its-ends, " he would have said so but he does *Not* All that enneagram types mumbo jumbo is pure superstition dreamed up by lying conmen bent on separating pignorant suckers .me, me, me,me narcissistic suckers, rom their gelt ; the said conmen being very careful not to mention Mr. Gurdjieff who brought the information concerning the first of the fundamental primordial cosmic sacred laws, namely, the law of Heptaparaparshinokh, which to quote Giorgivanic himself: "present-day objective cosmic science, by the way, formulates in the following words: “‘The-line-of-the-flow-of-forces-constantly-deflectingaccording-to-law-and-uniting-again-at-its-ends." Now How the devil could *anyone* (that was not a lying charlatan) extract from *those words:* *"the-line-of-the-flow-of-forces-constantly-deflectingaccording-to-law-and-uniting-again-at-its-ends"* any of that bullshit-butter- from- air nonsense about types(which is pure trickery and monkey business)? The bare-faced cheek of the scoundrels trying to sell that bullshit-butter- from- air nonsense about types(which is pure trickery and monkey business)is breathtaking, but not that surprising it; is simply another example of the wisecreing of mice(nothings and nobodies)said mice being e-x-t-r-e-m-e-l-y careful Not* to mention the name Gurdjieff lest oneof yhe victims that is not as passive as the other sheep takes the trouble to find out for himself whether or not Giorgivanic ever said *word_ one* about the scoundrelly rascals' so-called enneagram types, which - needles to say, he *does_ not.*
For me, Richard Rohr is the best teacher of the enneagram. He brings each type to life and gets straight to the point with both humour and compassion. Richard also types many famous people differently (eg Marilyn Monroe as a 4 not a 6) and why. I highly recommend his books and videos.
51:14
20:50 Interesting method because I do this without knowledge of someone showing me how to deal with original sin
So good
The irregular enneagram originally comes from S. Karpp's French book on the Zohar & the tetragram from Blavatsky's "Isis Unveiled". Note Gurdjieff once hung up a Christmas tree upside-down.
5 and Aspergers sound a lot alike!
This has opened my eyes,truly I even feel a sense of freedom,like I’ve let go an enormous weight,truly amazing how one video changed my perspective,tbh my whole life
I think my type is 1 with 9...I"m a real barrel of laughs.
Get sucked into evil , then says evil doesn’t look like evil. Evil always looks like good. Ironic I have watched dozen of videos and find the enneagram and this to be evil. Wow how he says the enneagram makes the devil work for God. Really what nonsense. Opening describes the subtle of the enneagram open your eyes don’t you see this you have bought this lock stock and Barrel . This is not of God, it is not biblical. Making me miserable alright.
prior to the catch phrase "co-dependent" the condition was referred to as internalized oppression
im a five so i incorporate what i refer to as the microphone game. i look at whoever im speaking to and see myself passing focus over to other as a way of including them in conversation
Thank you so much for posting this series 🙏🏻👎🏻
1:14...5's
1:22:24...9's
Enneagram makes me laugh at myself
At 15:44 he mebtions the Five-ish as the "stereotype of the English. It isn't always true as we well found out last year.". As I was six when this was recorded, I don't know what he's referring to, could anyone help me here?
I would prefer to have learned this over algebra in school. Learning different ways to understand people can be helpful at work and in all kinds of relationships.
What’s the virtue of the nine?
The direction the arrows go seems to vary from one website to another? Actually in this video at 59 mins, the diagram differs in arrow direction on the website Richard has enneagram teachings. Any input would help.
Jesus is kind of the main character of this guy but Jesus is not good for advanced being
He's one of the best ennegram stand up comics going
Sorry I'm late y'all
“Ok, the 9, quickly”… followed by a brief description of what it is to be a 9 and then an explanation of what everyone else should do for them. He didn’t take that approach for any of the other numbers - essentially “What are we to do about the 9s?…” Are 9s incapable of finding their own way to salvation? Or is that just a 1 not perceiving his own need to control the 9?
Absolutely amazing knowledge and delivery. All in all, we carry each nunber, with additional weights on 2 traits, mine being 9w4. Thanks again
Absolutely riveting!!! 🎉😁✨
4 starts at 1:29
What a joke. If he could discern spirits he would know enneagrams is witchcraft. Lord people please check things out before you fall for the new age.
His description of 5's is really accurate. In my case it would be about 90% accurate! I do sit up front in the center because I'm hard of hearing and yes I'm reserved (except on stage (I'm a musician / actor). I'm great on stage but suck one on one (but I'm getting better!)
6 = Donald Trump.