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The first one isn’t a retcon it was a plot twist that wasn’t real

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9:45 We all know if Edge of Time Peter was there, he would’ve easily sided with Miles

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Finally hearing someone speaking agaisnt canon events. Thank you! My thoughts exactly. It robs Spider-man of many agency

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In fairness, ATSV already shows you that Miguel lied about canon events (or at the least, he falsely believes that they are a real thing) when Gwen realises that her dad turned down the captain position and thus won’t die

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Canon events being flawed are by design Miles in his universe was never supposed to be spider man especially with that spider but he did anyway and his universe has been fine proving that maybe canon events might have been bullshit all long

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For the canon events, I'm almost certain the next Spiderverse movie is gonna have the plot revelation that Miguel is just flat out wrong (As an example of proof that his logic is flawed in context; if each Spider-Man loses an uncle and a captain, who was Maguire's captain? They mention the events of No Way Home, so Raimi trilogy is in this multiverse. And if it's really either/or, how does Miguel really know that any Miles universe would need both? Theoretically our Miles has already had his canon event with uncle Aaron, so as far a Miguel is concerned, under the logic of consistency with canon events, the captain is optional and Miles is fine)

About the canon events, if they were true, Miles’ universe would’ve collapsed already. That world’s Peter wasn’t meant to die and Miles wasn’t meant to get bit and become Spider-Man. That spider wasn’t even meant to be within that dimension. Yet their world is perfectly fine and has continued on for almost a year. And then later, as Gwen’s Dad quits for her. Their world wasn’t collapsing either. Plus if the Miles of Earth 42 was meant to be the one bitten to become that world’s Spider-Man but that bite got interrupted, shouldn’t that world have collapsed too? Another hole in Miguel’s logic is timing. When he took over the life of that other world’s version of himself, he talks about it like he had a significant amount time with his daughter. But if canon was real, wouldn’t be breaking apart almost immediately after he took their place? Why wasn’t it collapsing as fast as Pav’s world? Why was it different? The film itself has given us enough evidence to prove they’re nothing concrete.

I agree, I don't like canon events for the same reasons why I don't like the TVA in the MCU. If everything is planned and destined to happen, there aren't stakes. But... Spiderverse isn't a finished story yet. As far as we know Miguel is wrong. We can't know for sure how the Spiderverse works until we get the final film.

Canon events aren't even a reason. They are something that Miguel unknowingly made up. What they actually experienced are incursions which are caused by someone being in another universe for too long. I don't like incursions since that ruins some things that happened in the comics, since an Uncle Ben variant of Spider-Man who's world got ruined got relocated to another universe.

I wouldn’t really say they’re all out of character because of the canon events. To me it makes sense that after going through so much, they’d believe Miguel when he told them there was nothing they could do. Knowing that things could’ve been different makes it harder to accept tragedy and move on, but if there was no other way, then you just have to take it as it is and move forward without having to put in too much work yourself. And for the younger spiders (like Gwen, who also is pretty much homeless) and for the ones who’ve especially been through a lot, that idea would clearly be very appealing.

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Disagree with the first one and it wasn't even a retcon since it was retconned to have been a lie. If Marvel didn't backpedal so hard and undo everything from the clone saga I think it would've been interesting to see Ben Reilly struggle with losing his whole life as Peter, then learn that he was robbed even further by knowing he wasn't the clone, and still pick himself back up and become the one and only Spider-Man as was originally intended. It wouldn't have mattered who the clone was, because Ben still chose to help innocent people despite all the evil and unfairness that was done to him just like Spider-Man should. Clone Peter could've let him take over and helped people in a different way while getting to have the social life he'd sacrificed for so long, and the world would've still had a spectacular Spider-Man. The real shitty retcon was sweeping Ben under the rug and making him the clone again, and then bringing him back decades later only to butcher his character over and over and over and over and fuckin over again. Although I like alot of the stories that come after, I think a world where the clone saga played out how it was conceptualized would be really interesting too.

When it comes to the canon event thing, I feel like it is possible that Miguel is simply wrong about it and is not an actual truth of the multiverse.

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27:23 They should kill May and let Teresa be the new remaining family member that helps to ground Peter to everyday regular-ness.

5:09 the totem thing makes more sense if they applied it to all MARVEL characters with all the heroes and villains being iconic impactful beings across the multiverse. Not so much Peter being destined to be The Spider hero he just happened to be the one to become that hero. Like to me the totem of the Star is Captain America, the Armored Totem is Tony, the Thunder totem is Thor, yadda yadda blah blah etc. That way they could weave it into ALL the major players being tied to some grand fate destiny shizz and just makes Peter another player in an ensemble rather than some chosen one.

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Wait, let me guess. Uncle Ben didn't die, he's actually alive. He got teleported by aliens to their ship and then they made experiments on him because they want to escape the dictatorship of Kang who keeps the timeline the way he wants. But then the TVA arrived but, by the time they came, Uncle Ben had already been cured and got psychic powers beyond imagination. But, after beating the fuck out of the TVA guys, Miguel O'Hara showed up because he was supposed to stay dead and he brought reinforcements. Now Uncle ben needs to fight an army of Spidermen but most of them don't want to fight Uncle Ben because he's Uncle Ben. That way, the spidermen start fighting each other and Uncle ben, with his mind reading powers, finds out that most of them are Peter, so he learns that Peter is in danger because of his suppose death. So he teleports to Peter to talk to him but his sudden apparition is enough to make Aunt May have a heart attack and dies. That way, Peter gets absolutelly pissed and go up him. Feeling guilty as hell for being responskble for Aunt May' death, uncle Ben accepts his destiny and let Peter kill him. But begore he was able to do that, Odin intervenes because the immense power from Uncle Ben caught his attention and he want to weaponize Uncle Ben as the new Destructor. Uncle Ben thinks that is a good use of his powers so he accepts. However, he can't just let Peter behind like that. So Odin, using his divine powers, brings Aunt May back to life, erases both her and Peter's memories and then brings Uncle Ben to Asgard. There Uncle Ben now serves as the new guardian of the universe. However, the TVA arrived again and Uncle Ben had an epic fight against Kang. Did I get it right? Is this one of the retcons in this video? (I just made all of this uo but I wouldn't be surprised if this actually happened in comics given the ludicrous amount of characters in Marvel who die and then come back as super powerfull beings)

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I think the thing about the third spiderverse movie is that canon events are just myths that Spiderman 2099 believes in, his world being destroyed for other reasons

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9:32 i was thinking like- theres NO way that spectacular spider-man would just.. ACCEPT that Gwen and her dad are going to die. It's so out of character.

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I'm also not a fan of the whole 'Cannon Event' gimmick either. It reminds me of a similar problem that the MCU has where Kang and the TVA basically run all of reality and pretty much implying/stating that free will doesn't exist. As far as One More*gags* Day goes, I'll give it a small bit of credit for (kind of) introducing one of my favorite villains in Mister Negative.(Granted the best iteration of him imo, comes from the Insomniac games.) Anyway, great video!

Just a reminder that the new Ultimate Spider-Man is outselling the current run of Amazing Spider-Man. It may be because they gave Spider-Man a happy marriage and a family

Pretty sure in across the spider verse, canon events aren’t a real thing since one, Spider-man india’s world was being destroyed by spot and what he did than what miles was doing. The other line of evidence was when gwen went back to her universe and she found out her dad stop being the police chief after gwen left, even though the canon event for a Spider-Man is that a police chief close to Spider-Man is meant to die. And the last piece of evidence is the alternative universe where the spider came from isn’t non existing or being destroyed, but it’s still going and is now just a cyberpunk dystopia where Spider-Man wasn’t there to save anyone. So I’m pretty sure the movie is leading the audience and the characters to the conclusion that canon events aren’t real and that the spider people can do whatever they want as they aren’t bounded by pre determined events.

2:24 Wait so what she somehow gave Mary the embryo Peter? Or if she didn't how did Mary not know that she didn't give birth to Peter? Like what? 7:11 Yeah, a lot of the new multiverse stuff have introduced these anchors for the multiverses. Canon events, Anchor beings. It just doesn't make sense. All it's doing is taking away the diversity of the multiverse. Like if all these universes need these specific things how different are they really? I hope in Beyond the Spider-Verse we find out that something else is actually responsible for Miguel's second universe collapsing, and he sort of made up the canon events to explain this away. After all, seeing that a lot of Spider-people experience very similar traumatic events, it's logical to assume that they're connected in someway shape or form. After all, Tobey is canon to the Spider-verse films and he hasn't experienced Gwen's death or anything alike. The closest we got was Goblin dropping MJ off the bridge but he saved her.