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Darren Regehr
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2023 Hyundai Palisade 7 Pin Wiring Harness Installation
Parts Used:
Hyundai 7 Pin Wiring Harness -
Canadian Part # S8F67 AC800
US Part # S8F67 AC700
CURT 13427 Class 3 Trailer Hitch, 2-Inch Receiver
CURT 57245 7-Way RV Blade Vehicle-Side to 4-Way Flat Trailer Wiring Adapter with Tester
CURT 58000 Easy-Mount Vehicle Trailer Wiring Connector Mounting Bracket
Hyundai 7 Pin Wiring Harness -
Canadian Part # S8F67 AC800
US Part # S8F67 AC700
CURT 13427 Class 3 Trailer Hitch, 2-Inch Receiver
CURT 57245 7-Way RV Blade Vehicle-Side to 4-Way Flat Trailer Wiring Adapter with Tester
CURT 58000 Easy-Mount Vehicle Trailer Wiring Connector Mounting Bracket
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The earlier comment was improperly entered on my son's account. The vehicle is mine. Just wanted you to reply to me instead of him! "@ryanwaring9649 0 seconds ago Thank for a great video. It gave me the confidence to order the OEM harness after U-Haul incorrectly installed a 4 pin set-up after I requested a 7-pin. I had to have them remove their harness. Their removal of their harness resulted in 2 error codes, significant time and money spent at the dealership as they diagnosed 2 expensive electronic parts as damaged by a voltage spike. Those modules have been replaced and I have no more error codes. However I still have this problem: I purchased my 2024 Palisade Caligraphy to function as a tow vehicle for our Mastercraft trailer and boat. The trailer has a surge brake that is de-activated when the tow vehicle sends a signal to the white (back-up) lights on the trailer. I have installed an Hyundai OEM tow wiring harness. When I apply a 7 pin test light it is properly illuminated in forward and reverse. My boat trailer can be towed and backed up by other vehicles I have access to. However, when I put the Palisade in reverse, the back-up lights flash on, and the go off in about 1-2 seconds. So if I need to back up the boat and there is the slightest bit of rolling resistance, the pressure on the trailer hitch fires the trailer brakes and locks up the wheels. This has been super frustrating and has curtailed our ease of using our boat this summer. Has anyone else experienced this problem and found a solution? This occurs even with the cross-traffic safety feature disable. It is as if the car cannot handle the small electrical load of the back-up lights, as if there is a safety circuit that is tripped that disables the flow of current. Do you have any advice as to how to further trouble-shoot this problem? Or do I have to take both my car and my boat to the dealership to have them find out if this is a Hyundai design flaw?" Reply
Thank for a great video. It gave me the confidence to order the OEM harness after U-Haul incorrectly installed a 4 pin set-up after I requested a 7-pin. I had to have them remove their harness. Their removal of their harness resulted in 2 error codes, significant time and money spent at the dealership as they diagnosed 2 expensive electronic parts as damaged by a voltage spike. Those modules have been replaced and I have no more error codes. However I still have this problem: I purchased my 2024 Palisade Caligraphy to function as a tow vehicle for our Mastercraft trailer and boat. The trailer has a surge brake that is de-activated when the tow vehicle sends a signal to the white (back-up) lights on the trailer. I have installed an Hyundai OEM tow wiring harness. When I apply a 7 pin test light it is properly illuminated in forward and reverse. My boat trailer can be towed and backed up by other vehicles I have access to. However, when I put the Palisade in reverse, the back-up lights flash on, and the go off in about 1-2 seconds. So if I need to back up the boat and there is the slightest bit of rolling resistance, the pressure on the trailer hitch fires the trailer brakes and locks up the wheels. This has been super frustrating and has curtailed our ease of using our boat this summer. Has anyone else experienced this problem and found a solution? This occurs even with the cross-traffic safety feature disable. It is as if the car cannot handle the small electrical load of the back-up lights, as if there is a safety circuit that is tripped that disables the flow of current. Do you have any advice as to how to further trouble-shoot this problem? Or do I have to take both my car and my boat to the dealership to have them find out if this is a Hyundai design flaw?
See above posting for replies. Thank you. @randallwaring9327
I have heard issues regarding the safety systems activating while backing a trailer and is a problem for some. This may be an issue. I think you need to disable the backup sensors because it thinks it is backing into the trailer and applies the brakes. Unfortunately, there may still be electrical issues because of the U-Haul installation. There are 3 fuses under the hood for the trailer, 1 under the drivers dash and 2 with the trailering harness. If one is blown, then it might cause this reaction. I know the Hyundai wiring harness comes with a brake controller connection as well. This is located under the fuse panel on the driver's side. A brake controller connected to this might also allow backing up.
The other issue is that the OEM wiring harness utilizes the CAN bus system (connected directly to the ECU/BCU of the vehicle) and the U-Haul harness splices into the light wiring. Splicing into existing wiring can create a different OHM reading and create issues.
my problem has been solved! I followed your advice to check on the fuses under the hood. All three fuses were absent.!!There were two 15 amp micro2, fuses and one 30 amp mini maxi low profile fuse. Once I purchased and placed these fuses in place the back-up lights on the trailer remained lit and the surge break was disabled so I could back up against resistance without firing the trailer breaks. it is as if the car was sold to me without those fuses in place. I will be taking this up with my local dealership.
@@randallwaring9327 Many dealers were informed to do this in the 2000-2022 models due to a fire hazard as a recall was issued. The 2023 fixed the issue, but this wasn't communicated well to dealerships.
No paper instructions in my box. This was most helpful as I am installing tomorrow. Thanks!,
I've posted the PDF of the manual on palisadeforum.com for those who want it.
Just did mine today. Works perfect. Had no instructions in box. Video def. helped. Ty much!!
I’m glad the video helped you. That is exactly why I created it. There aren’t many resources out there about this.
Great video just installed S8F67-AC700 on my “24 Calli. however i get no tail/running lights. brake lights turns and hazards all work great. do i need to hook up the brake controller wiring to have the constant 12v on the 7 pin? i don’t have a controller or a trailer with brakes. any ideas?
I don't have a brake controller hooked up as well. I have tested the 7-pin with a trailer and got all the light including backup. I've used it with a 4-pin adapter for a smaller trailer without issue. If I had to guess the issue, it would be a connection issue with the relay mounted under the inside cargo area. The other thing to consider is whether or not all the fuses for trailering being installed. Some dealers have taken them out because they think it is the same fire warning as the 2000 - 2022 models. This isn't accurate, but I have come across some incompetent service centers. I had 8 dealerships spanning 4 states tell me there is nothing for the 2023 model for wiring. Palisadeforum helped point the way for me. Maybe someone there could help point you in the proper direction. Also, pay attention to plugging in the trailer properly. The first time I did it, I was off a bit and nothing worked. Make sure the notch is at the the proper point. Here is a diagram of the pinout of the plug - i.ebayimg.com/images/g/FZgAAOSwkH1kya-D/s-l1600.jpg
Thank you so much for this, Darren! Just installed on our 24 Palisade with absolutely no issues thanks to your fantastic step-by-step instructions!
Great to hear!
Thank you. Do you have a video on how to install the brake controller?
No, I do not. I have explained this in the comments below. I haven't installed that personally. If you remove the fuse access panel left of the steering wheel, you will see at the far bottom of the fuse panel a 4-pin female connector. It is taped to the fuse box connector harness. You will need to plug the provided adapter into that connector. There are 4 wires that will need to be connected to your electronic brake controller. The installation manual shows how to do this on pages 14 - 15. I posted the PDF of the manual at www.palisadeforum.com/threads/2023-hyundai-trailer-wiring-harness-install.6958/page-3#post-69998
very good explanation. I wish somebody did for Hyundai santa fe either 7 pin or 13 pin installation. I found several videos with 4 pin where they have an adapter under the car inside the plastic covering. which i couldn't find myself in Sweden version.
Question: It looks like the Hyundai wiring hit you got doesn't come with the 7-pin harness. What harness did you buy? Does it hook in seamlessly with this system? Do you have a full parts list soup to nuts (hitch, harness, wiring, 7-pin bracket, brake controller, etc)?
Mine is a 7-pin wiring harness. See the description box for the part list that I installed. The Hyundai wiring harness does have a 4-pin connector for a brake controller that is installed by the driver's side fuse box. I have not installed a brake controller at this time. Hyundai has since come out with its own hitch that sits higher up and goes through the bumper (at least on the Caligraphy trim level). This would be preferred as my Curt hitch sits a bit low in my opinion for a trailer and would need a receiver that is at least 2" higher. The kit came with everything needed (bolts and wire ties).
The Hyundai hitch has different part numbers based on trim level - SE, SEL, LIMITED: S8F61-AU200; XRT:S8F61-AU300; Calligraphy, Calligraphy Night:S8F61-AU400
Thank you I am installing my factory harness today, and your video was very helpful to go along with the paper directions.
What brand and make brake controller did you use?
At this point, I have not attached a brake controller. My trailer isn't that heavy.
This is the most helpful out there.
Thanks so much for this video! Very helpful!
I just bought a 2024 Palisade Calligraphy with the dealer installed factory hitch & wiring. I wanted a hitch and was aware of previous year hitch issues. I was skeptical the dealership would get this done on my 2024. It took them 3 days and it was done. Not sure it was worth the dealer cost of $1,350 but they did a great installation.
Glad it worked out for you and your dealership was willing to do it. The price does feel high. I paid $700 in parts and it took around an hour and a half.
Thanks for the step by step instructions! It made our install simple. Same parts worked for our 2024.
Great video! Thanks for sharing…. How much should I expect to pay for the OEM Harness?
I think I paid around $200 for the OEM harness. I have seen it as high as $230. Diffferent dealers will give discounts. Another dealer has it for $198. Seems weird, but it is what it is.
My harness just came in and I plan to install it the next day or two. I assume you replaced the fuses under the hood? Thank you very much for the video!
I never had to because the 2023 model was unaffected by the recall. My fuses were never pulled. Yes, I do think if your fuses under the hood were pulled, they would need to be replaced.
Excellent video, Darren. Thanks for taking the time to do this. You've convinced me that I can tackle the hitch and wiring installation on my own and save myself $600+ that my Hyundai dealer quoted for the hitch alone. Crazy, I know. I purchased the OEM hitch (S8F61 AU300) and wiring harness (S8F67 AC700) from Hyundai and have been reviewing the installation manuals. Both documents say that the wiring harness should be installed first. However, on page 4 of the wiring manual (before the harness has been installed), it says to install the hitch. Huh? Anyway, I see that your Curt hitch was installed before the wiring harness and I plan to do the OEM hitch first, too. Do you see a reason why this couldn't/shouldn't be done?
I think you should be fine with installing the hitch first. The OEM hitch might make things a bit tighter to work around, but I think it also helps to know how to route the wires.
Can you do me a quick favor. I am looking for the folding rear view mirrors for the 23 palisade. I need to know where to order them. They just don’t sell them in the USA. How did you contact corporate and do you have the number or do you have the Canadian number. Thank you for your time.
I'm sorry, but I live in the US and did homework on the trailering wiring harness. I would call Hyundai 1-800 number. There are models in Canada and Middle East that do have it, but because of blind spot it's not available in US.
Thx for the vid!
No problem!
Awesome video. I have been waiting for factory hitch for over a year now. I just ordered the parts and will do myself. I will probably bitch and complain the whole time, but im not waiting anymore
I know yours is a 2023, but will that harness kit work on a 2024?
I think it will.
Thank you. Yes it worked!! Now I’m trying to find the plug under the dash for the brake controller connector. Any idea on where it is?
Thanks for a great video, I'm installing my hitch, wiring, and brake controller tomorrow on my 2024 Palisade Caligraphy.
Much respect fellow
Thanks Darren - very helpful
Great video, I just finished my wiring harness install using this video instead of the Hyundai instructions. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks so much, I got mine installed.
Would it work on my 2004 hyundai elantra? I want a 7 pin for it.
It is Palisade specific
@@darrenregehr4569 👍
I've called several dealers here on the east coast and was told this part wasn't available yet
It is available in all of the US and Canada. The dealerships are not trying!!! I can get it within a week.
You are the kind of teacher I wish I had in elementary school, jr. high, high school and college. Have never seen this level of presentation anywhere on you tube to date. Thank you. Wish you had more explanation about the controller and the 4 pin connector at the fuse panel at the driver side footwell. I am lost there.
I haven't installed that personally. If you take off the fuse access panel that is left of the steering wheel, you will see at the far bottom of the fuse panel a 4-pin female connector. It is taped to the fuse box connector harness. You will need to plug the provided adapter into that connector. There are 4 wires that need to connect to your electronic brake controller. The installation manual shows how to do this on page 14 - 15. I posted the PDF of the manual at www.palisadeforum.com/threads/2023-hyundai-trailer-wiring-harness-install.6958/page-3#post-69998
Does it require a direct power from the battery like the Curt connector everyone has been using?
The wiring in this video is complete. No additional power is required. The harness receives its power through the CANbus system. That is why there are fuses on the wiring harnesses.
This video was fantastic! Thank you so much for posting this.
Great Job, nice video Darren!
Thanks for your video, Darren. I've been putting off tacking this job since it was driving me nuts where the controller block went since their picture #14 is clear-as-mud regarding where the heck that was supposed to be mounted, and the local service people were as useful as a left-handed monkey wrench. And while I'm on a roll, complaining, WTF for Hyundai putting a grounding point under the trim piece and using hidden inline fuses like they did; BAD ENGINEER (whack)!
It really wasn't that much of a PITA. The fuses might be an issue, but I understand the need. There are other grounding points one could use. I just chose to follow the instructions. It is definitely more water/moisture proof as that was the issue on the previous (2020 - 2022) model years. Overall, I liked the harness, just not the fuse location. You'd think that the ones in the fuse panels would be sufficient, but maybe using the CAN bus system required it.
So if I watched correctly… Nothing is spliced in, all wiring is plug and play correct?
That is correct if you purchase the OEM wiring harness. US Part # S8F67 AC700 and Canadian Part # S8F67 AC800. Same part different part numbers.
Great video! I would have been lost without it! In the US the part number is S8F67 AC700. When I spoke with the Hyundai parts dept in San Diego, that AC800 part number doesn’t show up in their system. And my box DID NOT include a 14 page install manual. Instead I got a QR code😢. So thank you again for the video.
I've posted the PDF of the manual on palisadeforum.com for those who want it.
Thanks for the great video! Where did you get the bracket for the 7-pin plug?
I used the Curt Easy Mount bracket #58000. It is a bit flimsy for my preference, but it works.
Will the palisade wiring harness fit the 2023 KIA Telluride?
I really don't know, but the installations should be the same.
Awesome job. Thanks for taking care he time to make this video
You bet
Great segment, I just got the new harness for my 2023 Palisade. Just one question, is it necessary to hook up the trailer brake control wire if I'm not going to need it ?
I am not using the brake control wire at this time. If used, it offers braking assistance with trailers that are equipped. The 7-pin harness allows parking lights, brake lights, turn signal lights, and backup lights.
@@darrenregehr4569 thanks for the come back, I didn't know if it needed to be installed to make it all work right. I won't need it at this time, the four pin is all I need also. Already ordered the bracket and 7 to 4 adapter.
Good video. The only thing that seems weird is where the harness goes thru the floor. It looks as though the wires are squeezed between steel and the grommet seal area. This looks like trouble waiting to happen. I think I would rather slot the grommet from the outer edge towards the center to a drilled hole big enough for the harness and then RVT all of it
I'm getting ready to have the exact same harness and hitch installed. I also purchased the same EZ Mount bracket. Let me know if you find a sturdier one somewhere (hopefully soon). I like the clean look of the hitch cover...you bought that separate?
I wanted a receiver cover so that I could minimize the debris that can settle in it while not in use. The Curt one was included in the receiver I got. I was also looking on eBay for a Hyundai-branded one and I would have gotten that if it wasn't already included with my receiver.
Why do you need a 4-way adapter if you already have the 7-way harness? Should I assume that you already own a trailer that only uses a 4-way?
Hyundai only makes the 7-pin wiring harness and all my trailers are 4-pin. 7-pin does allow larger trailers like RVs to be towed. So in essence, the 7-pin might be overkill for my application, but it does open up other possibilities. You can not go from 4-pin to 7-pin.
This solves the issue of getting proper harness to control the break lights. Do you plan on showing the install of the remaining wires under the dash? Ordering that harness now.
It is simply a 4 pin connector that plugs in by the driver's side fuse panel. You then connect the bare wires with a brake controller. Not much to show as each controller is different.
How do you order the part? Do you go on Hyundai's websit or a local dealership?
@@MrRoadtrek Harness pn S8F67AC800 Hitch pn S8H03AP500 Bumper fill panel for oem hitch pn S8H03AP410
Great job! I ordered the KIA Telluride OEM hitch (Part # S9F61 AU002). The center bumper skid panel will be removed during the installation, and the hitch will protrude through the bumper. A new skid plate will need to be used, to cover the OEM hitch. There are 3 different skid plates, for use with the hitch. They are as follows: SE/SEL/Standard: S8H03 AP210 XRT/Urban: S8H03 AP310 Calligraphy: S8H03 AP410
I have the Palisade limited AWD,what bumper cover part number should I use?
I am talking about the center cover skid panel.
@@MrRoadtrek I'm not 100% sure which one the Limited uses, but I think it's the same as the SE/SEL.
Thanks
Where is the connection between the front connecter to the brake controller under the dash ? How do I order the trailer wiring harness part # ?
Thank you so much a great video. We just got our Palisade Calligraphy a couple of weeks ago. I will get the parts ordered. @taxhead534
Thank you so much for the video. Being waiting for this almost a year now. I have the 23 Caligraphy and I'm going to order one.
Glad it was helpful! As I stated in the video, there is confusion with many Hyundai dealers in the US. I found it most easily obtained through a Canadian dealer. I just found the closest one near me and called them. I had it within a week and a half. Because of the exchange rate, it was cheaper than getting it here in the States, so there is that as well.
How much was the adapter?
Great info. Thanks! I have no idea why they can't offer in US if they can in Canada
Me neither
I believe you also used the CURT 58000 Easy-Mount Vehicle Trailer Wiring Connector Mounting Bracket
Yes I did. Not a fan as the bracket is a bit flimsy and bends quite a bit when plugging in the connector. I might try and find another solution down the road.