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Becoming Offgrid
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Добавлен 2 мар 2016
This channel is dedicated to our pursuit of getting off the grid.
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donny@fortnebula.com
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donny@fortnebula.com
I traded my F150 Lightning and got a new project
I know, update videos suck. Sorry, but it's all I have.
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What happens when you use a crossover cable with an EG4 18k?
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What happens when you use a crossover cable with an EG4 18k?
Off Grid F150 Lightning gives power back #eg4 #chargverter #f150lightning
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Off Grid F150 Lightning gives power back #eg4 #chargverter #f150lightning
F150 LIGHTNING Off grid mode
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We review the off grid solar system and talk a bit about our new F150 Lightning.
Maximum Battery Charging | Grid and Generator Charging
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In this short video I show charging from grid and Generator at the same time.
16KW Generator backs up 24kw Offgrid Solar
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16KW Generator backs up 24kw Offgrid Solar
We Made a Decision
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We are going to build out this RV to work Off the Grid for longer term boon docking
What should my next build be? You Decide
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What should my next build be? You Decide
Off Grid House | Cloudy Days
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I just wanted to show how the system is performing on cloudy days.
Off-grid in the North Texas Heat | How is it holding up?
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Off-grid in the North Texas Heat | How is it holding up?
Apexium DIY LifePO4 Battery Build 280AH
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If you want to contact Jenny, her Facebook profile and email address are below. I have bought all 98 kwh worth of cells from her over the last 2 years. They recently released this DIY box and I grabbed 3 of them to finish off my system. jennywu896 jennywu896@gmail.com
Get your house Off Grid | AC side | 24kw inverter | SGP 12kw
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Get your house Off Grid | AC side | 24kw inverter | SGP 12kw
Will a hybrid inverter charge from solar when turned off | MPP 8048 | Growatt | Offgrid
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Will a hybrid inverter charge from solar when turned off | MPP 8048 | Growatt | Offgrid
Get your House Off Grid | 24kwh Off-grid Solar | DC side | MPP | Apexium | Sungoldpower 12k
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Get your House Off Grid | 24kwh Off-grid Solar | DC side | MPP | Apexium | Sungoldpower 12k
Finally! We are off the Grid! 24kwh Off grid Solar system overview. | MPP 8048 | SGP 12k
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Finally! We are off the Grid! 24kwh Off grid Solar system overview. | MPP 8048 | SGP 12k
EG4 5k Charge Controller | A lot more power for a little bit of money.
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EG4 5k Charge Controller | A lot more power for a little bit of money.
8kw ZTT Off-grid Solar | In productionish
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8kw ZTT Off-grid Solar | In productionish
Growatt 5000ES Zero Transfer Time with a EG4 Chargeverter | Offgrid Office
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Growatt 5000ES Zero Transfer Time with a EG4 Chargeverter | Offgrid Office
Growatt 5000ES Growatt 11 4kW Autotransformer Self Consumption / Idle Load
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Growatt 5000ES Growatt 11 4kW Autotransformer Self Consumption / Idle Load
Growatt 5000ES | Growatt 11.4KW AutoTransformer Simple Neutral Protection
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Growatt 5000ES | Growatt 11.4KW AutoTransformer Simple Neutral Protection
Growatt 5000ES | Growatt 11.4KW AutoTransformer Neutral Protection
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Growatt 5000ES | Growatt 11.4KW AutoTransformer Neutral Protection
SunGoldPower 12kw Inverter - Neutral Ground Bonding Questions
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SunGoldPower 12kw Inverter - Neutral Ground Bonding Questions
Mini Split full conversion for traditional central air HVAC
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Mini Split full conversion for traditional central air HVAC
Hello, thanks for the detailed tutorial. Is there any advantage of emailing Jenny vs purchasing through the website direct?
Nice video
Thank you for watching
Nice video man! Updates are needed!
Thanks man! Much appreciated
Nice video, I am a contractor in Northern NY and love my Lightning as well.
Really? That is awesome! I'm from upstate originally (south of Rochester)
@BecomingOffgrid nice, I am just outside of Saratoga
First! Welcome back, lol.
I'm a full time professional installer(36 years) and recently a customer had me upgrade his inverter and in the process I had to do a reinstall of his existing EG4 charge controller. Its the biggest piece of crap I ever had to work on. The design is terrible and no room to use the right size conductors required by code. Its a joke. Also 4 of his 6 EG4 batteries have failed. I want nothing to do with that brand. DIY folks should beware.
Yea they aren't very good. At 50% load mine was fine. At 80% load it blew up
Have you plugged the battery charger that comes with the generator? When I plug mine into the generator the light turns green, ever when its not plugged into AC power. Seem like a flaw, as that green light would eventually drain the battery.
I misplaced mine, so I have no idea where it even is
Lots of work there
There was. Thank you for watching!
how about communication between this Apexium battery to the EG4 or the sol-ark inverter?
My EG4 comms works, but it's not great. I haven't really dug too deep into why.
How much? Why not put system in a box which can be insulated/vented? What benefits, and how is is worth this extra cost? Thanks!
I am yet to see a production battery with insulation or venting (while there should be because of explosive risks) . If you have a link, share it. It's been quite some time since I bought these. Check with Jenny (in the description) for a current price.
So I have a duromax 13k watt generator. When I try to run my house (I had an electrician run a transfer switch right to main panel) the gfi outlets in the house trip and won’t stay on. I assume I need to do this to cure the problem??
Thanks for sharing; I had a GenerLink interlock installed after I purchased a XP7000IH, which has yet to be delivered. The GenerLink interlock does not transfer the neutral. If I decide to make the change to a floating neutral, I will tape off the 120 outlets. Connecting a floating neutral generator directly sensitive electronics can cause damage. I will also place a floating neutral label on the generator. Cheers
Good video by Mike Holt on bonded versus floating neutral. You can probably skip to about the two minute mark. ruclips.net/user/liveyS7usLY9zL4?si=Tjl24AOvtiVTWs_b
FYI on the 16000w model it's a much more involved task. All the neutrals and grounds connect to a bus bar. You can disconnect all the neutrals from that bar and wire them together. Obligatory only do this if you need to and know what you're doing. Consult a licensed electrician. But, if you are using it exclusively as a whole home generator via an interlock kit, NEC section 250 is very clear that you should only have a single neutral/ground bond in the system and one should already exist in your main panel.
If you don't have a very specific need for this modification, DON'T DO IT
You're gonna want it if back-feeding a house, else half of your neutral current will be carried on the ground wire. I suspect they bond it from the factory because RV transfer switches won't close unless they detect continuity between neutral and ground.
WARNING!! I followed the instruction to unbond on my XP9000ih. During the next use the power fried the inverter on my refrigerator compressor, the condenser fan, and both transformers on my chamberlain garage door openers. It worked without issue before the modification and again after I returned it to original configuration. DON'T do this on this model!! The old saying "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" really applied here.
I have to assume that you were connecting to a transfer switch, which actually switches the neutral.
sounds like you wired the neutral wire to a hot wire some how...not sure how but you obviously didn't do something right. Removing the neutral bond would not cause any issues you listed. However wiring the neutral to a hot wire would cause everything you just listed.
@@machaf Did it exactly as shown in the video.
@@abktll9393 No transfer switch, fed to a 50A circuit after shutting off street power.
Edit because I have it wrong. Connecting to either panel box in your house would need the neutral to be floating in your generator because the neutral would be bonded at the main panel box so that is your one point of bonding that's required. Okay so I understand exactly why you need to float the neutral in a generator to wire it up to your panel box. But I wonder if it's different if you wire it to a main panel box that has the neutral and ground bonded or if you wire it to a sub panel box which does not have the neutral and ground bonded. I would imagine that it should be fine at the main panel box as is but you will need to float the neutral if you connected to the sub panel box. Does this sound correct to you?
I had a very specific use case for unbonding the neutral. In my case it was hooked directly to an inverter that had a bonded neutral. If you don't have a specific use case, leave it alone.
@@BecomingOffgrid ok I understand. So you hook the generator to an inverter then feed off the inverter. Can I ask why? Do you do that to clean the power from the generator? I know that most generators aren't clean sine and if that's your reason for doing it then I think you're on to something good. Is that correct?
This is intriguing. I just bought a mid century home that is architecturally awesome. However all the supply ducts are in the slab, outdoor condenser is 15 years old, and the gas fire furnace/evaporator/air handler are 30 years old with parts replaced here and there. On an 85 degree day, not even the worst part of summer, it struggles to maintain temp. I’ve noticed registers near the air handler flow well and are cold, but furthest away barely have anything. I’ve wanted to replace the whole system but I fear the duct design forever encased in the slab is just a bad design. Also being a mid century home, the vast majority of the home has no accessible attic to run new duct work, only a foot or so between ceiling and roof deck. to keep the ceiling insulated wouldn’t likely leave room for ductwork even if I wanted to tear apart ceilings. I wonder if a multizone ductless mini split (or a couple) could be a good solution. I think it would still have challenges, especially placement of indoor units so as not to takeaway from the architectural aspects, but may be much easier than a traditional central ducted forced air system.
It's been working great here. More than enough cooling and heat for my region and home.
Yea sure if have few 100k laying around I'll do this. Does anyone know a good place to buy the parts that we are just using out of those solar inverters?
I don't have 100k laying around either. Lol. This is the primary reason I DIY the battery pack and bought everything else on super sale.
@@BecomingOffgrid I’ll just cry about it until the next sales then. ROFL. I got these pure sin inverter for 2k hopefully will do the trick. Probably running some smaller chargers to save money.
A disconnect needs to be added to these units, have 2 of them and if the bus bar that they are connected to is live the unit will start charging or discharging no mater what position the push button is in
Yea that push button doesn't do much. I have mine on external breakers.
a question: what is the value of this kit over say an EG4 LL? These kits with a batteries are much more expensive in dollar cost, and have the added expense of needing to be assembled?
ok rather than delete/amend, i'll reply to my own post, since I didn't do enough diligence. So looking up the total cost of an EG4 LL-S delivered to me, it'd be ~$1700. the complete kit ((China stocks) 15KWH DIY Battery : 48V DIY 280/304 kits + 16pcs EVE LF280K V3 cells + Inverter cables + RS485 connector) would run me ~$2000 delivered. So for an extra $300, it's nearly triple the capacity. It's a lot of scratch to lay out at once, but it's also a lot of capacity.
The biggest deal is you are on your own if something with them goes wrong
So its been a year. How is it going with the mini splits? I am also in north texas buying a large house. Im a little worried about the expensive electric bills im about to start paying. How are the minisplits handeling this heat wave? How old is your house? Awsome shop btw. How much are you saving on electricity?
They have been in production for two summers. My house is about 2500 square foot and I have had zero issues keeping the house cool. I did upgrade the master bedroom indoor unit to an 18k head. Over the old R22 system this one is significantly more efficient. With all of the offgrid stuff my bill went from 800 to 100.. and I added an EV into the mix.
Hi. Can something like this be used in a mb sprinter camper van ?
I wouldn't. It's not rated to be bounced around.
I did this very same thing and when I plugged it in to my panel outlet It would trip the breaker on generator. Then I thought the load was to high so I shut everything off and tried 1 15 amp circuit and still tripped breaker. I put the neutral back and everything was fine. Weird right.
Pretty strange
Were you connected to a interlock or a transfer switch that switches the neutral
How did you seal the vents and weatherproof the space where the old air handler?
The old air handler is still in place. I just closed the vents.
What would happen if you don’t do this and still back feed your house? I’m sure I’ve seen people not do this and back feed the house.
It would work, but you will be having 2 neutral to ground bond locations, your panel and your generator. Thats against the code and can be dangerouse if theres an electric fault on your home. There should only be 1 neutral ground bond and it should be your panel. I was running with neutral bonded for the last 4 years but now that Im aware Im about to unbond my gen
If the gen is unbonded than its not safe to use without connecting it to your panel. To use it without panel it need to be bonded again
I use a bonding plug for this purpose
@@BecomingOffgrid thats a great solution, I'll be doing the same using a bonding plug when I want to use it as standalone
how much it cost you?
I'm interested in knowing how easy it is to connect this to solar panels? Watching the build was really thorough I really appreciate what you did there.
Just hookup a 48v solar charge controller and that's it. Pretty simple
Standard range lightning is 98 kwh. Extended range is 131
I was told at the dealership they were 60 and 90 - however I see now that they were talking about useable capacity.
@@BecomingOffgridusable capacity is 98 and 131
There are times I fly along at 80 mph and other times I may drive at 65 mph. You learn to manage your power. I purposely stop at a good number of chargers for about 15 to 20 minutes when traveling long distance to manage risk. I don't even think twice, and it does not bother me. I do have a Platinum with a long-range battery. My wife has an XLT with a standard range that she mainly charges at home. For our needs they are perfect. In my Platinum, driving from Reno to Las Vegas I charge to 100% at home, I Charge in Fallon and then in Tonopah and then I charge when I get to Las Vegas for 428 miles. Mostly at 70 mph. So, I'm stopping twice to get there. Hit the restroom get something to eat or drink. Not a big deal.
It's not a terrible experience, but if I had my tesla adapter I would be quite a bit more confident in taking it on more trips.
Thanks for the video. Learned a ton from you. Similar situation in that I am powering 6 circuits in my house from the Growatts and autotransformers and I did not realize I had to tie my derived neutral into my Grid neutral. Easy enough because I installed a second load panel next to my main house panel and have been moving the circuits as my capacity has increased but I bonded my neutral and ground in that load center also because it was completely off grid and it was the first means of disconnect from the inverters. The solar load center is back feeding my grid panel through a 4 pole 80 amp breaker that I've been leaving open because I figured the neutrals needed to be isolated, and then to an interlock kit. Looks like I should be closing the breaker so that will electrically connect the neutrals and remove the ground neutral bond in my solar load center. Only problem with that is the that now the ground neutral bond will not be in the first means of disconnect from my inverters but having only 1 point of bonded neutral is more important for safety.
If you make a diagram of your setup, send it my way on the forums.
Well now you know! Ive always thought an ev could be nice to solely get around town, but not for trips. Too much time waiting on charges. Are you getting money back for putting power into the grid?
This month has kinda sucked, it's been cloudy for a significant portion. However I still think I will come out even or much better than pushing back nothing. I really can't do much with it anyways, I don't have enough battery to capture all of the power.
@@BecomingOffgrid Definitely agree. It would be interesting information to get after a year how much you get back or if you could figure out the maths how soon a setup like yours pays for itself or even makes you money. Cool video idea?
Thanks for the real world experience video. It answers a lot of questions I’ve had about EVs. They obviously excel in regular commuting of 50-100 miles per day but when it comes to road trips, there are some extra planning and steps that take more time than the same trip with an ICE vehicle. Demand for EVs has fallen but all it takes to change that is $4.50/Gal gasoline! 👍
If I was driving 200 miles plus per day and EV would be pretty impractical. I know plenty of people that drive that much every day. Probably just going to use the gas truck for long trips, but I really wanted to know what it would be like with only electrons. The reality is that 95% of my driving is around town, so it really makes sense for that use case.
I recommend 10 to 65% on trips but u definitely want to use the Tesla stations.
As soon as I get my adapter I will be using the Tesla charging stations for sure. Thank you for watching!
Pretty certain it is larger than 60kwh battery. I think Ford originally quoted a "usable capacity" which kept significant portion in reserve just in case the battery deteriorated. They later revised that specified capacity without changing any hardware. I don't know what year yours is, but since 2022 they have offered a 98kwh and a 131kwh.
Mine is the standard range model. What you are saying makes sense to me. Mine is a 23 model year.
I'm also thinking of retrofitting my home to mini split and am curious. Since you had a traditional system and already had traditional ducts; Why didn't you use a ducted mini-split heat pump with your existing traditional vents?
At the time the options for central splits didn't exist in my price range. If I was doing this today, central splits all the way for sure
Where can I buy the plugs to the negative & positive terminals (black & orange). And what do you call them ?
Amphenol connectors
Wow… just wow.. 592v spike just because the installer substituted a Cat5 crossover cable? I am speechless. Somebody @EG4 got some splaining to do! Great job troubleshooting..
I originally went to the forum because I was dumbfounded - I had literally no idea what was causing the voltage spike. Turns out - a crossover cable was it. Are you on the diysolarforum?
@@BecomingOffgrid yes! I read the dialogue.. just crazy that would happen like that. I’ve had good luck with EG4 gear so far but it’s only as good as the company that white label manufactured it for them. I went out and labeled all my cables and which equipment they came with just in case. Probably not a bad practice from now on. I recently helped a buddy with an off grid install. Tried to explain there are always bugs in a new system but I’d say 500v is more than a bug! 🐞
@@terrahillfarm Yea it's deadly. Pretty big oversight. This shouldn't ever happen, bad comms or not.
Conversation on this topic diysolarforum.com/threads/eg4-18k-what-not-to-do-in-parallel.84679
The moral of the story is check your cables.
Very cool! Off-grid 5yrs here in Upstate NY and couldn’t imagine ever going back on-grid! Great setup you’ve got there Boss! 😎
Where in Upstate? I am from there!
Thank you for this video. M
You are very welcome
Still working?
Yep, works great. I am going to put out an update video on system performance over the year.
How many watts of solar do you have?
About 30kw
Geeat video. Moving the camera so much can make some viewers dizzy. It is better to make the camera stable. Didn't take anything from the video, though.
Thank you for that feedback. I have a gimbal, but I never remember to use it. Thanks for watching the video!
I don't get it. So you paid to charge your lightning at the house now you using it to charge your batteries in the shop? Why not just run an extension cord to the house 🤷♂️
I don't pay to charge the truck at all. 1000 miles $0(so far). If you are interested, check out some of my other videos on building my off grid system. The house off grid system is much larger than the shops. This was really just an example of how modular off grid systems can be and how the lightning is useful. Thank you for watching!
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Very cool. Your largest solar battery doubles as a pickup truck! 🛻 The 6000xp is an incredible value considering the included peripheral breakers and isolater you don’t have to also purchase. I replaced my 6000ex with one and have been running my entire house with it since last week. No issues except for the low PV ☀️generation from the extreme number of cloudy days we’ve been having.
It has been super.cloudy this year so far. I guess it comes with the territory though. I don't really have much to say about the 6000xp. It works and that is all it has to do
Any updates on your Lightning? How has it worked out for you so far? Wife wants a new vehicle and was considering adding an EV to our stable since we could charge for free like you! 🤣👍
I just upgraded to the extended range version. I am never going back. I traded in my 700hp roush supercharged platinum F150 and the old lightning for a new one
Wow that is great to hear! I’m producing extra solar power now and an EV of some sort would really make sense. I don’t commute but most of my weekend trips are around 100-200 miles round trip. Will hold my breath for an EV ranger in the near future. That would be perfect! 🚙
Great video!
Thank you for watching!
Low budget Chinese made, high frequency, transformerless inverters have much shorter life expectancies and poorer peak power capacities than more reliable, heavy duty, low frequency, transformer-based inverters. And because there's no transformer in these inverters, there's no galvanic isolation between the DC boost stage and the AC output which makes for less safe operation during a catastrophic failure of the H-bridge circuit and the AC output monitoring circuitry. For just a few hundred dollars more, you can buy a low frequency, transformer-based inverter charger with MPPT which provides a much higher surge capacity, a built in AC transfer switch, grid or generator battery charger with automatic generator start and a much longer life expectancy with galvanic isolation.
The HF inverters are only used for charging. The AC output is unused. The loads are powered from LF inverters. The big blue ones are LF for exactly this reason. Thanks for watching
I'm just now getting ready to commission my of grid system. I'm using 3 of the growatt 5000 ES inverters. How do i get all of the 240 V inverters into 120 V split phase. Would i have to get a separate auto transformer (say a 5000 watt split tr as nð dfor all three and install this neutral protection ckt in all three?
You would just parallel them all. I did a video on it. ruclips.net/video/P9t92RAwZMs/видео.html