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Has anyone ever calculated the seismic event that would acompany a flood like these? Cheers from a fellow Brazilian Geologist!

The muck beds of Yukon have shown examples of mammoths ripped into pieces and flash frozen with half chewed mouthfuls of food. A Zamora hypothesizes cometary impact (Firestone et al 2017) evacuated the local atmosphere leaving a vacuum of deep space temperature for a spell. This is the only explanation I have heard that fits the evidence

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Roy Breckenridge was my father and the smartest, best human I’ve ever known. He spoke highly of you Jack. Thank you for sharing his life’s work.

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Thank you for your comments. We post these sessions for the convenience of folks who are unable to attend the meetings in person.

Please post something audible. Good info but couldn’t hear much.

We learn lots of things watching these videos, including the importance of remote viewers muting themselves.

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The problem with these types of talks is simple.............they bring out uneducated and/or willfully ignorant theists. Evidence matters! We have TONS of evidence for these "flood" events, but we have basically NO evidence of one worldwide flood. Never mind the fact that the "heat problem" alone makes a worldwide event IMPOSSIBLE! If theists had any clue where their holy books come from (and modern Biblical scholarship provides a lot of answers) they might not be so crazy about defending them. To ancient people's/civilizations, the "whole world" might have been no bigger than a large valley. Floods did happen, but as for a "deity" warning these folks about coming events.........nope! The sciences are TOO important to be denied and as a society (as a species really) we need to REJECT myths and the unprovable and embrace evidence.

Sea levels have been at or near current levels for 7-8 ky. The Fraser Floods would be running out of a great Salish Valley and into the Juan De Fuca channel (and over the Olympia lowland into the Columbia Valley at Longview?) prior to coastal contact.

Did Rainy Pass conduct high pressure water under 3 km of stable ice into Stehekin/Chelan from the Lower Fraser through the Skagit Valley? The ice cap would theoretically be thinner than 1 km at Rainy Pass.

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I think your theory is obvious. The Canadian gutters are scoured almost to southern Alaska.

Are the landforms the result of the max velocity? Have some been modified by later slower events? Does max flow and max velocity happen at the same time? It seems the wavefront would be slowed by the initial resistance of the prior landforms and that the velocity maximum would happen later. Are areas where deposition occurs the only ones where we can calculate the flood velocities? Is there any indication of the time sequence of a particular flood event? Enough...?

Thanks for this. I live in the area of discussion and the lidar images had me flummoxed. I appreciate the interpretation of this complex area.

I must take exception to your diagram depicting scabland creation in the proglacial setting and consequently in your subglacial erosion theory. Your diagram shows only water doing the erosive work rather than the slurry of boulders, gravel, sand and silt that would be the actual carving agents. When you then translate to subglacial flow, how do you get the masses of grinding rock necessary to carve such channels?

Not Ice Ages. There are simple answers to Earth's accumulation of water, and other resources, but Ice Ages don't enter into it. You cannot look at the past, and assume everything here today was in place then. It's illogical, and unsupported by facts. At some point in the not too distant past, one of the poles was located in the Gulf of Alaska, near the bend in the continental shelf, diametrically opposite to the old polar location 1,500 miles east of Tierra del Fuego, in that whoop-ti-do where South America stretches down to Antarctica. "Floods" are a different story, caused by the shifts I mentioned, and by the massive amount of water deposited on our planet beginning with Noah/Gilgamesh, continuing through the Fall of Empires, more than a millennium later. Gravel is the first of sediments to fall out, and repeated crossings would build up gravel, before depositing lighter "silt" over it. We see gravel under layers of silted mud, in a lot of places. Most geologists agree a water course traveled from the (current location of the) Arctic Ocean, southeasterly across the central US, emptying into what I suspect was the mid-Atlantic (although the Atlantic was still a proto-ocean at the time). Earth has NOT "always been the way it is today", and the changes are not that distant. The mountain ranges are nowhere near as old as many claim, and I am certain no one alive today would recognize the planet only 100,000 years ago, much less "millions of years ago", so commonly used, y'all abbreviate it "mya". I wish there were a time machine to verify my version, but I believe the Earth itself testifies to the fact. What could have caused the flood that "inundated the interior valleys to a depth that took 30 years to drain off"? Probably nothing short of something doing what Joshua claimed, ignoring all religious trappings. If the Earth had been stopped, the ocean water would have kept moving, pushing the Pacific Plate into South America, then sending a massive tsunami racing (at 400+ mph!) eastward, toward China. The poles were shifted seven times in ancient eras, according to pottery shards. Pottery adopts the magnetic signature of the Earth, in the transformation from wet clay. Archaeologists have known this for a century or more, but geologists are slow to come around. Your map shows what I talk and write about, events that happened less than 5,000 years ago, not mya. Events that scarred the psyches of the human survivors, leaving us with xenophobia, trust issues, and fears by the boatload. The events were off the charts, probably wiping out 90% of all life (the bones of countless animals, many who didn't belong there, were discovered in Alaska, jumbled, as if tossed pell-mell into the canyons of the coastline). The offshore scarring is more common than you suggest, appearing in the Gulf of Baja California, from the run-off of the event that "carved" the American West. More scarring is seen off the continental shelves around the world.. Turkey was overwashed by massive amounts of water, the Bosporus/Dardenalles an artifact of its passage. You talk about the distant past, showing a modern map, but the continents, except Africa, were displaced, shaped, and remodeled by water. A huge water course ran across Libya, to empty into the Gulf of Guiana, and another crossed Algeria, emptying near the Verde Islands. Then, too, we're told, "There are none so blind as those who will not see", as if the early authors of the Old Testament knew the character of humans of the future. You were taught much of this, by people who firmly believed it, and you are caught in the trap common to sons, living out the sins of their fathers. Sea levels rose when more water was added to the mix. It was a chemical reaction, nothing more mysterious, or magical!

Plenty of Ice Rafted Erractics here near Enderby BC Canada, espeacially up Kingfisher and Sleepy Hollow Foerst roads !

@5:36 That block doesn't seem to be sitting on a nest of glacial till, does it?

I'm gonna say it. (Scruffels my hair too make it look wild) ALIENS /s

Thanks for sharing. Mega floods are common from large ice sheets. Cordilleran Ice Sheet had to drain south.

The problem with the outbursts theory from damed glacial lakes is that it does not account or discuss whether ice is capable of holding the immense pressure created by the huge amounts of water that caused these ancients floods before cracking and giving away. Are the recent icelandic examples valid as analogies when they are all thousands of times smaller than what happened in north america? The extraploation imagining them 3 or 4 orders of magnitude bigger without considering whether ice is capable of holding the pressure from the enormous quantity of water is very dubious. Especially when we see that all of those outbursts that happen today are in fact lightyears from being just a tiny bit of what happened there really. It would be more plausible to imagine that something else was at play back then and maybe melted a lot of ice rapidly at once.

Thank you for presenting this Jerome. Very interesting! I now wonder if there were other subglacial outburst floods in the upper Midwest and Ontario that have been misidentified.

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Just waiting patiently for the reverse flow glaciated Elwha story to rear it's beautiful little head.

I like Rainy Pass. Connects the Lower Fraser to Stehekin and Chelan. Thank you Jerome, Skye, and Joel for your inspiration.

Thanks Jerome!

Are there ice rafted erratics that have been dated to the “Missoula floods” timeframe present in Moses Coulee?

What to me is most gratifying is that Joel and Jerome's paper explained months and months of onsite observation and mapping and data collection into a succinct, FOUR-page publication that explains not only the genesis of Moses Coulee but also a source of megaflooding that Bretz saw but few others did. I see it as solid theory personally. The only enigma left in this area is teasing out the evidence for Spokane being covered by a glacial advance that is older than the Wisconsin. _That_ will be difficult, inasmuch as the later ice advances plus the Missoula floods have likely wiped out the best evidence for a Spokane ice lobe. Bretz plainly saw it, but it's difficult for the rest of us to see what he saw.

Definitely helps if you watched Nick’s Ice Age Floods A-Z , which Jerome was on a few times

When you observe the landscape of the Central Wa. study areas and see vast stretches of relatively flat terrain surrounding ridgelines and high points, how did the terrain differ in topographical relief preglacial-flood to what is observed today? All of the incised, scoured and moved rock had to have been transported distances relative to their mass, some not very far and filled preglacial-flood canyons creating the vast flat basins observed today. Considering the depth of the deposits, how much greater was the scale of these great floods? I'm in the Willamette Valley, which is 400 miles from the Pleistocene Okanogan and 500 miles from the Purcell lobes; it has hundreds of feet of glacial flood sediments and is flat for 30 x 120 miles. Considering it's a sump for every large glacial flood that has occurred, what was the terrain here like before the glacial floods? The Willamette Valley is a forearc basin formed @40MA after the Siletz Terrane collision, so it was a sump for the Western Cascade volcanic arc flows @40-20MA and for the Columbia flood basalt flows as well, which depressed the floor and widened the basin even more @16MA. I haven't seen core sample data of the Willamette Valley, but if I were to guess per the depressional subsidence of the Coast and Western Cascade ranges toward the Valley, and inferred their angles to a convergent line in the center of the valley, the CFBs are @5,000' deep x 20 miles wide x 100 miles long, Eugene to Battle Ground WA., with 500-1,000' of Pleistocene sediments above it. The preglacial-flood Columbia channel below the Willamette river confluence must have been a deep canyon, 300-350' lower than present on CFB bedrock. If you have an interest in any of the preglacial-flood areas of the PNW, what do you think about any of these speculations or other preglacial-flood areas you may know?

Thank you Jerome. Great presentation! I have very much enjoyed watching you on Nick's channel over the past few years. Congratulations on the new paper with Joel. Subvert the dominant paradigm!

I understand there has been some struggle over time getting your work published/recognized and I am so grateful this collaboration finally allowed that to happen. Sadly, not unlike Bretz on some level. Academia and academic egos can be a challenge to understand systemically, sometimes. Clearly, actual geography doesn't acknowledge contemporary political boundaries (nor should it) and this kind of collaborating is exciting. Thank you for your work and this presentation!

excellent

Very interesting to a curious and intrigued non-geologist. I stumbled across the Ice Age Floods story several years ago, and finally visited Moses Coulee in 2022. I will return this summer with lots more to think about and look at.

The algorithm sent me here because I watch Nick Zentner

Great lecture ! Thank you Jerome !

Dope talk, love that you destroyed so many skeptics' talking points!

Thank you Jerome, this was awesome!!!

Good work. Seems to make sense. You can basically see it from google earth. So why isn’t this part of the standard story? Is it because of america centrism? Or other?

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Great talk Jerome! It's given me a lot to think about. I'm going to be around Moses Coulee for 2 weeks or so in Sept. I tried to follow your talk on Google Maps, so I have found more places to explore. I'd love to talk to you and Joel someday about it. Greg in east TN 😀

Very good Jerome. You have come up with an additional story rather than a replacement story.

Thank you!

I saw Marlis book on Nick Zentners channel. I just ordered it for my trip to Washington and Oregon.

Does the glacial flooding correlate with sunken tectonic plates in any way?

An Ice Age is a recurring natural event. Our planet suffers from a cycle of seven natural disasters best known as a flood. The worst disaster leaves us a planet with a lot of ice on it and hence a low sea level. The cycle occurs because we have a ninth planet in our solar system orbiting our sun in an eccentric orbit. After the usual period, the planet approaches our sun at a very high speed, crosses the ecliptic plane of the other planets and disappears into the universe for a very long time. The last time this planet was seen with the naked eye from Earth, and depicted, was just before our era. Thanks to many ancient books, texts, statues, coins, cylinder seals and other artifacts, we were able to reconstruct this cycle and predict when the next ice age will occur. We explain much more about planet 9, the recurring flood cycle and its timeline, the rebirth of civilizations and ancient advanced technology in the e-book: "Planet 9 = Nibiru". It shows abundant and convincing evidence both in text and many depictions. It can be read on any computer, tablet or smartphone. Search: planet 9 roest