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It was great and still running until I left that church about 2 years ago. It was like new still and played great but the church wronged my friend and sold it behind his back. (The kit was his and on loan) Long story but I warn everyone not to loan stuff out even to your friends. Everyone I know who has lent/loaned lost or received damaged gear back. I have been thinking of making a new video of my dissatisfaction of the church especially in music and a few other topics but I don't know how to cover it and answer all questions that may come up yet. I do not want to discourage people but people need to understand to watch yourselves also. I really miss that kit and playing music.

Sorry for late response

I haven't been able to play any in two years and cannot give a reasonable answer. My best is if you already have a E kit then save money and get the Pearl Mimic Pro since it can use most pads and for me it's about sound and feel and I could play normal even on Pearl. But that is my 2 cents. Sorry for not having more info to give but it comes down to money for me at this point.

Thank you and God bless you too.

It doesn't work on this throne and other Mapex thrones. This is one of my few complaints with Mapex. I used DW and Tama and never had this problem or to this extent of wobble. I mean this thing is like annoying how much travel it has and it clicks loud. The Tama I played in past was 5 years old and barely wobbled if it did and it wasn't enough to throw you off playing but this throws you off playing because it will wobble hard and loud.

Yes.

if you are using a hi hat with a power cable make sure it is on. If it is off I usually only had open sounds. Without seeing more of what the issue is I have no answer and I don't want to tell you things you may have already done like check if its the right pad and right TRS cables.

And sorry for the year late reply, I haven't received notifications for some reason and I have been in hiatus for awhile. I am sorry.

Thank you! Cheers!

Sorry for such a late reply. They hold up like Roland but you may have found out that right now they are not sold in North America because they have no distribution in this region. I think you can still order them in Japan and Europe.

I am sorry for not replying sooner. I no longer have time to maintain this channel and work two jobs. Justin at 65 Drums has a great video on this. If you are not sure I heard Alesis is the cheapest but sometimes has issues but it is better than some of the off brand companies. Yamaha and Roland are better but can be expensive. I recommend not spending a lot to make sure he sticks with it.

@@robertlucas9867 no worries. I got him an Alesis set for about $1200.

I don't remember. I am no longer attending this church and I can't recall what model it was. Sorry.

Download only.

MEINL Sub CAJON I think. A little bigger and more bass. The sound is recorded from my iPhone so it’s more accurate. The sound team at my church are self taught and add to much bass to the kick mic making it sound like a boom box which is why I used the iPhone instead.

@@robertlucas9867 I seen your comment on another page about music and how it affects animals, so I looked you up a man name Schreckenberg and Bird did a study years ago, on how rock and roll damage the brains of mice after having the mice listen to rock music during an eight week study, they said the music caused the brain damage what do you think?

What do you mean? Pearl website has newest OS and updated sound library with one shot samples for free.

Robert Lucas Yes, They said also the update has improved response from the atv 14 hihats, I wonder if you noticed an improvement?

That's true!

I dislike how expensive Roland is too. The cost of making pads with plastic is not expensive as people think and the piezo pickups you can buy cheap. It's ok to make a profit but the kits nowadays are too expensive.

Oh, posted to soon. You have the settngs here already. Thank you, sir!

I don't know since I haven't had that problem. I would assume either under settings for triggers or under Mod tab in Mixer section but since I am not experiencing this I am not sure where to begin.

Thanks. I have limited experience with VH13 so I cannot give accurate opinion and it would still be a opinion. If you're using it with Pearl Mimic Pro, my experience and feedback I receive is ATV AD-14 is the better option. But it is personal preference. Plus the ATV is real size like a real cymbal. Triggers great with optical light.

LOL, I learned that from my friend who is a music minister. He always called ecymbals tupperware because that what they sound like without amps and he is right. LOL

With two drummers banging on it, so far so good. Never had an issue except forgetting to turn on or off the hi hat.

@@robertlucas9867 cheers man im looking forward to mine turning up

Yes but the Mimic Pro has one advantage, you don't need a laptop and midi cable.

Flams, I am playing a Swiss Army Triplet so you are hearing the flams on the first diddle of the triplet.

Three actually. Metal!

Three actually. Metal!

Metal is the most passionate music style for sure, unfortunately it's seen as evil..... I honestly believe jesus would be more metal then anything else, he was an occult master, read the gospel of Thomas!

Lloyd Rees I copied from guys like Virgil Donati and Benny Greb having a side Tom/snare. Useful for a lot of things.

It's personal. If you like it go with it. Alesis Strike is 16" and I think the Roland CY15R is around 15-16". The advantages would be 360 degree triggering with ATV.

well i wanna upgrading my ride and i think about CY15R or get that ATV cymbal but i am worried it doesnt fell "ride-y" women like and we know extra inch is really a big deal so just wanted to know your thoughts about it if it would pass as a ride on small e drum set @@robertlucas9867

jezusmylord it would pass in my opinion but still feel small. ATV is thinner also and awkward at first because the switch is in a little further than Roland and requires you to hit it more flat for edge triggering but after awhile it feels more natural to choke it and hit it in my opinion. I want to get my own set now if I could. But if you want that extra inch or two plus 360 degree triggering then ATV is the way to go. But if the 18" is close to same price I would get that. But like I said it is an opinion.

Well i thought about the 18 inch big boy but i have little space for my drumset unfortunelly so i have to keep it small, thats why i consider the 16 atv cymbal cuz its bigger than the cy15r but not big enough like the 18 inch ride that would look silly with compact drumset, probably gonna buy the 16 inch one. Thanks mr. @@robertlucas9867

No problem. I understand the space limitations.

Yes, I think I mentioned that or mentioned it in another video its probably because of the module but the other reason I mentioned it is because if you buy the shell pack without module you will need cables since other companies usually supply cables with the pads but ATV does not. Also cables you need should be 15 foot average since you are running it along the ground and up the hardware.

Klaus Agerbo Sensitone kit with snare detuned -35 and sustain and release down to 1 sec. Hi hat detuned -15 and ride -15 or -20 I think.

yes, one is to the left to make it easier to play certain tom patterns for me. I picked up the idea from Virgil Donati, and people like Johnny Rabb and Benny Greb who use a extra snare or tom also on the left for patterns so I don't have to cross arms. I think Mike Mangini was another inspiration for it.

No cables unfortunately.

The ATV module comes with a breakout cable but the shell pack comes with cymbals, shells and hardware only. So if you use another module like I am with Pearl Mimic you will need TRS (stereo) cables with one straight end into module and one right angle into pad. Preferably 10' and 15' cables since they will be run on the ground and up the stands. I am buying 15' feet cables for room to move around.

Thank you Robert!

@@robertlucas9867 Can I ask which brand of cable you purchased and where? The straight to straight arent too bad on price but those straight to angle get mighty pricey ... thanks so much!

percboy555 those angled ones are pricey. I just look for deals on Guitar Center, Sam Ash, Sweetwater, Kraft Music, I think there is a couple of sites dedicated to sound engineers that sell cables in bulk. Brand varies from Roland and HS but even those cables can get expensive. You can also make custom if your good at that. But as for brand I don't have a particular.

We are designing a new platform to put these on. One that is mobile when needed and has arms for people to utilize for pushing and pulling the platform and not grab the drums. Also be able to fold up in some areas so that it can fit through the narrow hall and door. Whoever designed our sanctuary didn't have musical and theatrical knowledge and made the rooms and entrances behind the stage limited and difficult to use so we have to adapt. I am not a fan of racks anymore especially Roland and edrum racks because they twist and get out of shape easily, the current platform has no arms or attachments to move it, people during the week when I am not there use the kit as a handle to move the platform which is terrible because it messes everything up and can accidentally push or pull drums off the riser. Also the platform was designed before I joined over ten years ago and is terrible design, shaky, studs nailed wrong and doesn't support well. Hopefully in January it will be there and I hope to have more videos.

PJ Herrel platform built now and ATV at church. I made a video if you haven't watched it yet.

Iron Giant I can't wait to have this setup at church. We haven't yet due to Christmas and making a new riser so I have to use the Roland kit and it makes me cringe now with the Hotspot issue especially on soft songs with alot of cymbal rolls and nuance but those Rolands Hotspot to easily. That ATV snare is great with no hotspotting. I can't wait to replace the Roland kit.

Brado Drummer yes. I hit center (between bow and edge) with tip with a full wrist stroke. Then when I do edge I use shafts of stick on a angle at the edge.

All with the hats open or closed?

Brado Drummer I geuss closed. I never thought of that. I think I did it closed.

John Pietrolaj I agree. I think they are overpriced. Atv is coming out with smaller kits next year. I hope Pearl does too.

MarkuzP66 cup is not connected. All ATV cymbals are made to be used as crashes or rides. The hi hat top is a 14" cymbalthat can be crash, ride or hi hat. You just need to use edge input for bow and edge. If you used it as a ride then you already have a input for cup (bell) input. Capture hard hit takes the guessing out of setting up proper curve/velocity range because piezos can vary greatly and because people have complained that Roland is too hot even at soft levels. So capturing hard hits allows the module to read the characteristics of the piezo in any pad and set it up to your hitting style. After that you can fine tune the curve settings of the pad to your liking.

@@robertlucas9867 I meant Edge in the mimic! I have both and you can't capture edge triggering because there is no extra signal from the pad! You mentioned in your video to do that.

MarkuzP66 that's weird. Mine works. I'll have to think about it

MarkuzP66 I'm assuming you already did this but the only things I can come up with is, 1: is it a mono cable? Should be stereo (TRS) 2: ATV cymbals are hit slightly different on edge, am I hitting it right. 3: is the cable in all the way. 4: did I set everything up right in the Mimic. 5: maybe their is no sample for edge for this one. I'm assuming you already know and did these. I'm still thinking what it could be because mine works.

Robert L this is Strange. I just get my new Mimic module. I am sure that this was also not working on the old one. I use a stereocable for sure in the edge input of the hihatpad. I get no output when I hit the edge. Can you show me the mimic screen while you hitting the edge?