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I'm glad my disappointment could help someone else. I still shake my head about this purchase. I didn't make a video about it, but I later got a GREAT deal on a barebones G4. I was going to install the 2400GE but a standoff for the CPU was broken. I could not get the cooler off the socket to install the CPU without destroying the whole thing.

The short answer is, I don't know. That 4-PIN power (normally right next to a 12 or 19V barrel jack is an alternate way to get power to a thin ITX mobo. That jack is often 12V, maybe 19V, and occasionally can take either voltage. If you look around, sometimes you can find a PSU (AC/DC adapter, not an ATX PSU) with a 4-pin end. I don't know if you can just use a 4pin CPU plug from an ATX PSU. By the way, those AC/DC adapter PSUs are quite cheap. If you're using a SATA drive, you'll likely need a special power cable from the mobo to the drug in addition to the SATA data cable.

My son uses it daily with a Ryzen 5 5500 for 1080p gaming. He's not into the latest games (Starfield, Cyberpunk, Hogwarts, or COD), but it has delivered for him without a hitch. If I were building his PC today, a 6-core Ryzen CPU would still be fine, but I would likely go for an RX 6600M off AliExpress. It's a bit better and has 8GB VRAM. The 6600M is around $170+, while the 1660S has gone up to $150+. Other options: 5500 XT or a 5700. Regardless, I have been pleased with the 1660S.

@@ogbenchmarks7127 do you think the rx580 would be as durable as your sons

@@ogbenchmarks7127 also would you trust their asus refurbed cards

@@thedude-ty4nm I think so. I have considered many times picking up an RX 580. Two things have stopped me. (1) The card isn't getting driver updates anymore. (2) The 580 does take a decent amount of power for its performance. If you just want to get old server PC (bigger PSU) for 1080p gaming over the next two years, then the 580 should be fine. If you want a system with more life to it, then I think the 580 might disappoint. It also depends on which games you want to play.

@@ogbenchmarks7127 the only things i dont know is how durable the jie shuo asus rx580 would be, but the 64dollar price is perfect for me hence my interest just the durable factor scares me

LOL. No. It was a complete miss. I don't know what made me think I could predict what component prices were going to do when I typically buy parts that are several generations old.

That is great information - very helpful. Thank you for sharing.

I have an elitedesk 705 g4 mt with a ryzen 5 2400g. I was planning to buy a ryzen 7 3700x to upgrade it. Will the ryzen 7 3700x be supported even after bios update?

​@@HK23453 No, I don't think a 3700x will work on the 705 G4, at least I haven't found any information that would be able confirm this. You might want to check/search around if a 3400g could work, then probably the 3700x would work since you have a Mini Tower which can opt to use a dedicated GPU.

do you know if this applies to the g4's?

Thank you for sharing. I think these cards are great. My son (who is using this GPU) is very pleased. I hope they have good long term use. Admittedly, games are likely to become much more demanding soon, so the useful life of a 1660 Super is likely limited.

Thank you. We're having some nozzle issues with the 3D printer, but we should have it back up soon.

Thank you so much. I need to post more but work sometimes gets in the way!

I admit that they aren't as good as I originally thought. They have proprietary issues, and cooling isn't great (or quiet). If only more reasonably priced options for thin mini pc cases were available!

LOL. Maybe ethan klein sounds like me!

It is legit. It runs great. I bought it from a listing that said it was new back in late November. Since then, many reports have surfaced that some cards are being sold as new but were used in mining. Those "new" listings are now gone and replaced with "98% new" or similar. I bet my card was used. Still, it was very very clean and runs fine (GPU clocks and temps). I am very satisfied, and the price was perfect.

@@ogbenchmarks7127 thank you very much, took some weight off of my heart knowing everything will be fine now.

I know far less about AMD CPUs than Intel, but the HP 705 Mini G3 has an AM4 socket. There were a number of A10 CPUs across several architectures - Piledriver, Steam Roller, and Excavator. They may have spanned several sockets. The A10-9700E is Excavator and takes AM4.

Thank you

Thank you for the sub! #40! I'm glad the video helped.

So glad to have helped you avoid the same mistake I made! I think it's a great idea. Too bad it doesn't work.

You are exactly right. Thanks for the correction!

Prices on all these cards are creeping up. I hope that is not trend that lasts.

I do like the GTX 1660 Super, but I think the real value card is the RX 6600. The 6600 (or 6600m with identical performance) is available on AliExpress for US$200-210 from multiple reputable sellers - JieShuo, Mllse, SOYO. The 6600 is stronger than the 1660 Super and 3050 and perfect for ultra 1080p or even some 1440p gaming. You can jump to the 6600 XT or 6650 XT and surpass the 2070 and 3060 for US$250 or higher. Two issues... (1) Many people favor Nvidia. (2) Ray tracing performance will be limited in the 6600.

@@ogbenchmarks7127 thank you but rtx 2070 its stronger than 6600 or no and i watch some vedios rtx 3060 bather than rx6600

@@dz.mo3taz263 RX 6600 is just a bit slower than RTX 2070 and 3060. See this page for one comparison... www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-rx-6600.c3696

@@ogbenchmarks7127 thank you

It runs fine. I'll do a video on it soon. I upgraded my son's PC - from an RX 570 to GTX 1660 - and everything seem completely normal. I'll share some benchmarks on the upgrade in the video (just Cinebench and Heaven). I am confident that this card is a legitimate MSI GTX 1660 and not some kind of counterfeit.

@@ogbenchmarks7127 that is going to be helpful, thanks for the fast reply.

I can help, but the motherboard will need to be identical (or at least have the exact same rear I/O layout). First build? - super exciting! Email me at ogbenchmarks@gmail.com.

@@ogbenchmarks7127 you would be better off buying a motherboard with an rPGA 988b socket and an HM75 or HM76, HM77 chipset and two slots RAM. In such a motherboard, you can install an i7-3632qm processor and RAM 8GB+8GB, 4GB+4GB DDR3L-1600. Connect SSD 480-512GB, sata-lll, 2.5 "for high speed Windows and programs. The i7-3632qm processor has a good HD Graphics 4000 video card. You could buy a motherboard from a Lenovo laptop with an Nvidia video card.

@@vladimirazirov1815 You're right. I messed up on the motherboard. I always planned to get an i3 or lower because I was concerned about keeping everything cool. Still, I didn't have all my research done before buying the motherboard.

It's excellent. I'm certain that this is a legitimate MSI Ventus GTX 1660. I haven't benchmarked the card properly, but I have run the card on Windows 10 with Nvidia drivers, and the card reads correctly on GPU-Z. I would have been happy with an off-brand card, but the MSI branding is a bonus. If I re-ordered the card, I doubt I would get another MSI - could be a different brand or off-brand.

Thanks. I have a 230W PSU, would it be enough for this GPU?

@@xploit811 I think you need something bigger. This GPU can draw 125W. If your CPU is 65W TDP (turbo will add to that), then you are minimally at 190W. The motherboard will take a decent amount, and then add little items like fans, storage, and RAM. I wouldn't be comfortable putting that much load on a 230W PSU. A 300W would work, but for the same price you can probably find a 400 or 450W. Keep in mind that you need an 8-pin PCI connector for the GPU.

@@ogbenchmarks7127 it's not a 1660 super but as good as the normal 1660?

Since this video I done all my updates and loaded Win10. On Win10 with Nvidia drivers, GPU-Z reads the card just fine. Late last year, there were rumors (Moore's Law is Dead) that Nvidia has mountains of GPU stock. We might be seeing Nvidia (and AMD) finding alterative channels to sell out inventory to make space for the new generation of cards. In short, I think these cards are legit and safe to buy (for what that's worth). I understand your concern, but these sellers and cards have many positive reviews.

be careful with 3060M

@@julinnn2 Thanks for chiming in. In the end, regardless of what other people say, it is you as the buyer who has to balance all the information.

The board takes DDR4, either 2133 or 2400.

Agreed. The cooling "solution" is not very satisfactory. For all the noise, they still run pretty hot when under load.

I know what you mean. I wish ETA Prime would have mentioned then noise, instead of the mini I would have gone for the SFF version. I reapply new thermal paste didn't really help and went into power options but it was already set at power saving mode and passive cooling. I tried changing the thermal pads on the heatsink. Nothing I tried has really improve the therrmals and noise. Now I'm too scared to even buy any type of mini PC for gaming cause that noise is horrible.

Also for some reason ETA Prime used MSI Afterburner to display the temps and he was getting slightly better temps than me, not sure why. Maybe because his PC only had an NVME inside. My PC has a nvme and SSD. I'm guessing the SSD takes some of space inside and makes the thermals slightly worse?

I can't keep up with the mobile chips, but this is exactly the kind of thing I'd like to see in a desktop APU. AMD has the ability to do this.

@@ogbenchmarks7127 yasss They will do it with Phoenix and DragonRange It's just a matter of Courage🤣 Igpu hv been stagnant for a very long time Almost half a decade

GTA V high settings 1440p with 60fps cap is great. 4k hovers around 60fps but dips down often.

@@peppernickelly That's amazing. Is the 300U overclocked? That is a 15W TDP CPU, yes?

Espero que el mío funcione pronto.