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Hi Tim, I haven't tried the SLX front wings because we don't have them :(. But the SLR 2 660 and 560 matches very well. P.S. The SLX series don't have the same shape as the MF series. Both are 7000 optimized in the design software but do have a different design philosophy. I trief the MF 820 for WINDfoil coarse racing and that didn't work. Extremely nervous and scrary to foil. But for light wind WINGfoiling the MF 820 is great

@@MarcoBoone Hi Marco, thanks for the reply. I was considering using the MF820 for my Formula wind foil board on a 115 course racing fuselage for super light wind ( replacing the SB Millennium 1000) Reading your comments on how sketchy and scary the foil is , may make me reconsider, especially as they’re super hard to get hold of How bad/unsuitable are they for a 100wide board ? Thanks

@@timboswijk416 I wouldn't recommend to use the MF820, it will be terrible. Go for the SLR2 880. This a great replacement for your millenium 1000. Lower stall speed and way faster. I am using the SLR2 880 for course racing and I love it SLR2 880 is much better than last years SLR1 880.

@@MarcoBoone Thanks Marco for your words of wisdom. It is much appreciated, alas no SLR wings in the UK.So I have ordered SLX 665 to go with my SLX 565 front wing today. Plus a 105 99/31 jumbo 2 and 130 tail wing. With the 100cm span of the 665, I’m wondering how well it will work on my 115 Evo 1 fuse with a 255 thin/200 tail wing set up, as big course racing wings aren’t available here.

You mean the price of the board and foil? Regards, Marco

That's the idea yes. They are working hard to get this one of the new Olympic disciplines for watersport for the Youth Olympics 2026 to start with. For the regular Olympics there is no 'space' before 2032 since IQfoil and Kitefoiling are in the Olympic program untill at least 2028 (LA)

Please, Sponsor us with a boat that is fast enough to keep up with those guys and we will happily make a new video that is full speed ;). Even more spectacle!

You are right. But we always test a board, sail or foil always with the same set up, so there is only 1 variable which is different -> the item we are testing. Besides this we always spend a lot of hours on the water in different conditions with different set up of the foils to see if there is a significant difference worth to mention. The review video is only a short recap of our findings. Otherwise it will be a very long and boaring video ;).

In the video I was using the HG6 6,0m2 with F4 Foils 560 FW and 190 BW. But normally I am using this board with 6,0, 7,0m and 8,0m2. With the 7,0m and 8,0m2 I am always using the 560/190 wingset and for the 6,0m 400/190 wingset (When the wind is stable, otherwise I prefer the 560/190 set as well)

You're welcome :). I would advice to for the Glider 2000 or 1700. If you are 80 kg (did I understand it correctly?). I think the Glider 1700 will be a better choice. As explained in the video, the new generation wings are so efficient that you easily can take 1 size smaller. It will be faster and more playfull. Regards, marco

I heard that from some customers (Liberty) as well. But the best thing is not to crash 🤪. Now serious, i have the feeling that the fit of the Drake is a little bit better. I was using size s of the Liberty first and now size m of the Drake. For me the fit of the Drake is a bit better. But some sometimes its moving up a little bit. But i had the same with all my previous harness. Especially after a crash.

Good question. We are not a designer of boards, but we think it's because of the thickness of the back side of the board and also because the deck of the board (where the back foot straps are positioned) is round. Based on our experience with all types of windfoil boards and wingfoil boards we learned that thick boards will make the board feel more nervous (they tend to rotate along the longitudinal axis). And a board with a flat deck is easier to control with your feed.

Updates from the water are the same. For us the Drake feels more comfortable compared to the Liberty. Mainly because of the fit and the fact that there is NO padding on the size of the 'flaps' as mentioned in the video. We love the Drake-X15

We tried to point out the differences between those 2 boards (that's also the verdict at the end of the review). The best is to experience the difference between those boards yourself. So I invite you to visit our testcenter (in the middle of the Netherlands) and try those 2 boards yourself to experience the difference.

Then... you will be the new WC in the PWA 🤔

@@windfoilennederland Lets see if Amado does it 😄

You are right. These board are based on the boards the top guys are/were using, but 85 sizes are more allround. So the basic design principles and charateristics of the boards remain more or less the same. That's why we made the comparison.

Hi Sebastiaan, top. Eventueel kun je er nog 1 bij ons passen / uitproberen. Gr Marco

Hi Dominique, Normally you can buy this type of rope with a specialst watersports shop. The where we are buying our rope is: www.georgekniest.nl/artikel/268581/m-lines-m-ropes-challenger-hmpe-zilver-per-25-meter-3-4-5-6-mm.html. But maybe you will find it in your local watersport or sailingsport shop as well. Good luck!

Thx a lot! @@windfoilennederland

Hi, yes it was the F4 Foils Freerace 850/210. The windspeed was like 14 to 16 knots. Regards, Marco

@@windfoilennederland Marco thanks for the quick reply, I was very impressed you were able to hit 47 kph on the Foil glide 3. I have the foil glide 2 - 7.0 and ride the same F4 850 FW / 210 BW combination but have not be able to go faster than 42 kph. Do you think the foil glide 3 is faster than the foil glide 2? and what is your best tip for increasing speed on foil? ...you look quite relaxed at 47 kph!

@@fleetwoodmarine Yes the FG3 is faster then the FG2. But also give the sail (works also with the FG2) a bit more outhaul. A bit flatter sail gives more control and more speed (less drag). I don't know what board you are using? Normally I am using the X-15 for slalom foiling. For this occasion I was using the Alien 145 and I was very much surprised how easy (and) fast this board is with the Freerace foil. The main reason is that the position of the back footstraps (in the outer position) is +/- 2 cm more to the inside, so that makes is very relaxted to stay in the back foot straps. Last tip, go for longer harness lines. In 1 year time the average length of my harness lines increased from 34 inch to 44 inch. Yes you have to adept your technique, but you will have way more control. Especially down wind and with stronger winds. 💪

Hi Micha, The recommended length is 203 cm. I think I put it on 206 cm and has 1-1,5 cm of space left. When the profile is deeper the pressure point is going back wards more when the wind gets stronger or sailing upwind. Since the speed with windfoiling is relatively high, it's more efficient to have a bit more flat sail. That's what we also see int he IQfoil class, the are sailing with more tenstion on the outhaul. And also the new HG6 is more flat compared to the previous version. But as mentioned in the video, the profile in general is more flat and a bit more to the back compared to the FG2. This sail is definetly faster than the old model. Regards, Marco

Met de F4Foils Freeride (1400 FW). Deze foil matched erg goed met de Severne Alien en is een stuk sneller. Ook de F4 Foils Freerace (850 FW / 210 BW) werkt erg goed onder dit board. Gr Marco

Dat is op het Gooimeer vanaf het surfstrandje in Almere haven