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It really all comes down to quality control. I probably would not buy a Chinese frame for a down hill or enduro bike. These bikes in the video are dedicated cross-country bikes. Although I have taken them off a few jumps and drops.

I once took a full suspension mongoose from Walmart and upgraded it. Fox suspension, hydraulic brakes, sram 1x11, dropper post, and new bearings throughout. It turned out to be a pretty cool bike. Lol

Haha, a banger was always a good song or something cool in my day. 😎

I agree, the cable routing is not ideal, but also not horrible. I may add some foam casings around the internal cable routing this winter.

I think the value you get from a name brand is a little lighter frame. I think the frames are lighter because they lay the carbon better and keep the frames thinner.

That being said I don't think it's worth the price hike. 😅

www.diycarbonbikes.com/collections/fullsuspensionframes/products/29er-dcb-fxe100-santa-cruz-blur-style-frame Although you may be able to find the same frame from Aliexpress with a little searching for a much better price. But then there is no warranty. 🤙

I bought the frames from a website called DIY Mountain Bike. The wheels are from Thehouse.com before they stopped selling them, and the spokes I got from Ali Express. The hubs I bought direct from ethirteen.

@@MTBTrailHunt I don't see the house making any wheels would you buy carbon frames and wheels from the diy mtb and did you ever brake any of their stuff?

​@@snowfan.The house made wheels for a while before they sold to a different company. I bought a few sets of rims during there close out sale for a sweet price. I would probably buy wheels and a frame from DIY if didn't want to build them myself.

@@MTBTrailHunt thanks for the info

So far the only problem I have had is the shipping takes a while. 🤙

Thanks, so far so good! 🤙

I rode it all season and raced a couple XC races as well. I honestly haven't had any major negatives. The binding was something I was worried about, and I took off the shock and measured the stroke, and it dosnt bind until after it would bottom out. I rode about 2 times a week this summer. 🤙

Thank you! Cheers! 😊

Thanks!! Cheers! 😊

I am 215 on an xl frame, and I rode it hard all summer. Also, the carbon may not be as nicely laid, but it actually looks thicker.

@@MTBTrailHunt Ok, well that's good news. I'm glad it worked out. It definitely looks sick. That's for sure.

The carbon looks thicker and more sturdy, actually. It ways more because of that, though.

I didn't record any rides yet, but I rode it most of the summer, and it worked great. I didn't take it easy either!

Yes I believe it can support 29+ .

It has a pretty narrow chain stay, I believe its 177mm. I don't think your going to fit a fatter tire. With that being said, I am 235lbs and I didn't have to much of a problem in the snow. As for the shock I think the two eyelets are different diameters, but I can't remember for sure. I sold this bike about a year ago and I now have the Alaskan Carbon hard tail.

I know it can fit 4.0in, I use the Terrene 4.0 Cake eaters. There Studdable and work great, and I am 230lbs.

I never had an issue, and I rode it in some pretty chunky terrain.

He has 12 subs. Be easy. It's more about the information than a professional setup.

I ended up with the XL frame. I like long bikes, because they seem more stable. I am 6 foot 3, and I do not know what my inseam is but I do have long legs. Although the XL is a larger frame, it still climbs like a Billy Goat. 🤙👍🤙

Yes I bet it would, but probably not a 4.8 or 5 in.

It can only handle a 4.2 rear tire. I tried fitting 4.5 cake eaters and the rub the chain stays

@@johnnyontherocks1 good to know ! I liked every thing else about the bike, but I really want the float.

What if I use 26” wheels with 4.8” tires? Fits?

I did have a problem with the rear shock getting stuck down when riding below zero temps. Although I was riding pretty aggressively down steel grade and doing drops. If you were going to be consistently riding below zero I would look at their hard tails. I actually sold mine to a buddy and bought the new Alaskan Carbon with the Manitou fork. I rode the Alaskan all the way down to -20, and it worked great! Also the new Terrene tires that are studdable are great for winter riding.

Price varies by what build and wheels you get. Check it out at www.framedbikes.com/

It weighed about 36 pounds, however it comes with a different build now and I think it would be lighter. This bike has a Manitou mastadon fork which is heavier than a Bluto, but better in the cold. Also they come with mulefut tubless compatible wheels now, and Tereene tubless compatible tires. I would bet you could drop a pound and a half off just for tubless. In my opinion if I was to buy this bike again I would spring for the carbon wheels, and get the weight down close to 30lbs. 😀

Also if your going to buy one let me know and I will give you the name of the rep that helped me out!

Actually yes I did on a ride after this video. It got stuck down while I was riding in close to 0° weather after I hit a decent drop. Framed sent me a new one and I sent the old one back. I also have to put in some volume spacers, because I am to heavy.

They replaced mine, unfortunately it happened instantly to the new one in 15 degree weather. I'm going to pull it apart and lube it with lighter weight oil. There are lots of discussions on MTBR about these. Like you I wanted the all around bike. Hopefully the lighter lube works.

Eric White I have my rear shock off the bike right now and taken apart. I am putting in some bottom out tokens and may do the same thing with the lighter weight oil. I dont know about you, but I have been bottoming out way to easily.

I'm 160 soaking wet. So no troubles yet. Spring is around the corner so we shouldn't have this issue. It sounds like these were not properly lubed from the factory. Good luck. I don't know anyone who has this bike. I'll stay in touch with any updates!