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The argument is two fold - 1) Is a heliocentric Earth possible in known physics? - 2) Is Earth flat? - It's about physics namely the 2nd law of thermodynamics and the entropy of a gas. Gas cannot form a sphere shape inside of a vacuum. That's impossible in physics. That so called sphere shaped gas you call atmosphere cannot fail to expand into the available volume it MUST expand causing you Not to have stable pressurization on Earth to breathe. If Earth had an atmosphere (oxymoron as gas cannot form a sphere in a vacuum) that gas would leave Earth and you would die. Again, thanks to the real physics of the 2nd law of thermodynamics. Gravity has never been demonstrated to hold gas to Earth. Heavy gas may appear to pool for a short time but it will expand to fill the volume due to entropy until equalization occurs. This all shows the heliocentric model is totally wrong. We Must have containment and not be in an open system. Globe Destroyed. Sorry folks but the heliocentric fairy tale is a 2nd law of thermodynamics violation many times over. Now if you think I'm wrong all you have to do is Demonstrate the claims. Show me 1) gas forming a sphere in a vacuum that 2) fails to further expand into and fill the available volume due to entropy until equalization occurs. No one Can do that as it would violate known established physics. If you can pull it off, you would win a Nobel Prize for Proving the current understanding of the 2nd law of thermodynamics is wrong. - Btw, Flat is NOT a Shape. Flat is only an aspect of a surface. When we say Flat we don't mean Earth is overall shaped like a pancake. If Earth has a shape no one has seen it. We can prove the surface is measured flat and Earth cannot be a sphere of the size claimed especially existing inside of an impossible 2nd law of thermodynamics violation. Nasa's outer space is fake and is not a place that can be traveled through. Facts are Earth is Flat because it's Measured flat. We Flat Earthers who are science minded make no claims as to any overall shape of Earth. Earth is measured flat via elevation angles from celestial bodies using celestial navigation. The adjacent leg of the elevation angle is sighted along the surface of the water to the ground position of the celestial body which can be as much as 6000 miles away. That's a 6000 mile line of sight measurement that proves Earth is not a sphere with the radius of 3959 miles claimed. There is none of this nonsense about taking the measurement from the center of the equatorial plane because think about it.. you would be in the center of Spherical Earths molten core.. or as the bible says.. Sheol.. Hell. It's not complex at all. They took elevation angles to Polaris to obtain latitude. These form not a sphere but concentric circles spreading out from Polaris on a flat plane. They wrapped these around a sphere to create the globe using the haversine formula as I understand it. Everyone measures Earth Flat. Tunneling, Aviation, Celestial Navigation, World record long distance photography, Bridge building, Interstate systems, Elevation above sea level - all Require a Flat Horizontal Plane of reference and that's taken from mean Sea level as well as the elevation angled that cannot work from the surface of a sphere. ( try it with your own CAD program. the adjacent leg of the angle Cannot Bend!) We can demonstrate Earth is Flat.