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I think on the contrary it's pretty good even if my video doesn't do justice to the lines shifter haha Under Shifter you have 2 possible lines: - 1 | I:P + 1 Malice + Ransom ( Apo 3 or S:P with I:P and Ransom -> Ban Rabbit -> Set Trap that can ban) - 2 | Apo 2 + Crypter (which can put back into the deck in banished Malice to ban a card) This is largely solid knowing that most decks cannot play (at all) under Shifter That said, I understand what you mean about compatibility with other Extra cyberses but it's not really important since you don't need to play them under Shifter🤔 it allows you to have very distinct lines between playing under Shifter and without, I find it a shame not to play it when it's easily one of the best win con in the deck🧐

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The thing is that Nibiru is a current problem for most rogue decks (sometimes meta too) I'm not really a fan of Firewall spam either but for a first wave it remains largely correct, hoping that the next supports will give more identity to the deck and push the banning mechanic further than just triggering special summons and playing under shifter It's certainly possible to try to finish on Crypter, bystials in hand to banish Rabbit, which sets MTP07, it seems entirely feasible to me but still a little light imo (That said, it can have gameplay like Marincess, a board with a few interruptions and the biggest in hand) I've also seen combos with wyverbusters, don't hesitate to watch the KEI4GAMES channel which shows all that!

Spooky and soon Fuwaros might be really annoying yup For Spooky, I dare to hope that she will be banned within a few weeks, but for Fuwaros.... S:P pass turn🫡

⁠@@shaddraw Probably I:P pass instead. You should always have at least one extra body available from the Trap you Set or from Dormouse’s effect, so I:P into S:P is available for 2 interruptions rather than 1. (If you’re under Shifter, probably instead into Heart Queen for 2 better interruptions. Could also try going I:P into S:P leaving TB-11 Set and using it to Summon Red Ransom on opponent’s turn for an extra interruption.) EDIT: Note that this does not work if your opponent uses Fuwaross after you Summon Splash Mage, if you’re going through that line. In that case, passing on Red Ransom+TB-11 is probably your best option. EDIT EDIT: In the non-shifter version, if you set GWC-06 instead of TB-11, you can instead end on Zeroboros with slightly better followup. You still put up as many interruptions as you give draws in this case.

lmaoo yeah, the grind game with cyberse is still complex😭 hoping that the next supports will help him a little, in addition to having his own direction like marincess or salad

I think I just forgot lmaoo There are several times when I could have banned her, notably when I did the wicckid effect, which would have given me an extra body 😭 Thanks for pointing that out to me!

Shifter control is meant for control.

@@justice8718 I mean you're also locked by your own shifter. I just don't see how that's honestly enough. Your entire ED besides the archetype links can't even be used since they special from GY. Also a lot of the disruption in the opponents turn is used by banishing the link 3 on the opponents turn by a bystial or protectcode talker to set the banish trap on the opponents turn

Knowing that most decks can't play shifter at all (or S:P pass at maximum), I think Encrypt + MTP07 is more than enough honestly, knowing that the deck can easily otk T3🤔 Also keep in mind that there is still a link 3 in Crossover Breaker and that the deck could still have support from the next hand expansion!

I think you can definitely do both. Shifter makes plays less interesting, but having 2 bans under Shifter is enough to clear most matchups But without him, I also think that adapting his plays with bystial possibilities in hand could be more interesting

@@shaddraw I just think going second with shifter doesn't accomplish much since you might not be able to finish either. It's just dumb having the whole ED pretty much locked. I think going first you're just better off using protectcode or bystial on your own link 3 and link 3 banish rabbit to special and set the search and banish trap for extra disruption. At best I will side in shifter when I go first but going second it doesn't feel that good since we can't take full use of it like tenpai, Kash, or ritual beast

I don't really know Magikey but reading the cards I can't find any synergy🤔 Especially since Malice locks extra summons in Link only

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Bystials are a possible option in this sense, I know someone is trying with some wyverbuster too 🤔 Kashtira can potentially be nice too, even just for baiting handtraps and beating fiendsmith Now that I mention it, it most definitely works with fiendsmith too lmao 🥲 I've seen people talking about Lady Labrynth too but I'm not convinced by this one 🧐

Thx! these are speed up replays haha, there are quite a few moments where I think about what to do🥸

Yeah she's crazy lmao

Ransom (Link-3) Effect! When she is banished, she can Special Summon herself in addition to banishing a Cyberse from the deck

@@shaddraw ah, missed that part of the res from banish effect, thanks!

This is the first idea I thought of but I haven't been able to figure out how to make it a One card combo, the most annoying thing is that Rabbit doesn't offer to add a trap in hand 🫠 On the other hand, in 2 card combo with Aloof, Exceed, maybe EM:P etc, it could work without too much problem 🧐 The ideal imo would be to have Zeroboros + Encrypt + MTP-07, but maybe it's win more

​@@shaddrawI've seen someone on discord made zeroboros with 1 card, If I remember correctly: normal dormouse banish rabbit ss rabbit set the trap that revives ss splash mage into red ransom add field spell then activate banish cheshire and ss itself link cheshire and red ransom for zeroboros opponent's turn use trap to revive to any zone zeroboros points to I don't think he plays wicckid or other regular cyberse techs tho, so there are still many alternative combo options

​@@shaddraw I'd suggest playing the cyberse monsters that have effects when they're banished like Balancer Lord, since that can give an extra normal and dodge around imperm with backdoor to trigger it and immediately summon whatever was searched. The coder monsters don't seem too bad at first glance since they can get monsters to grave and search out Cynet Conflict, but as far as endboards go I'm not seeing much else that makes it a contender over Firewall Darkfluid Extra Link.

@@8609pp Ohhh yes obviously! I thought it didn't work because of the trap activation condition but it only applies if you want to activate it the turn it is set🧐

Heyoo, I tried and it actually works very well! In addition to having the ban of Zeroboros, if you summon Ransom in a targeted zone you can re summon it +2300LP -> recover a field spell -> ban Rabbit -> Rabbit set MTP-07 -> Ban an other card Thx bro, I'm saving this for the future🙏

Maybe It's the last Link 3 🤔

@@shaddraw the last link 3 is predicted to be the white queen. since in alice in wonderland there are 3 queens. the queen of hearts, the red queen, and the white queen. and the current link 3's are the red queen and queen of hearts. it might be a link 2 rather than a 3 though possibly because in the books the white queen is basically overthrown by the red queen(her older sister). technically making the white queen a princess(sort of)thus making her title lower, which could impact it being a link 2 rather than a 3, otherwise another link 3 I guess

theres also 1 missing maindeck monster card. the current ones rabbit cat and mouse symbolize the playing cards; hearts, clubs and diamonds. so we are missing spades. assuming the maindeck monsters are based on animal characters in the books that had the largest impact in the story, then spades will be the caterpillar

Yup I like it a lot! the only problem is that not being cyberse can be restrictive for link climbing and the card can stop the combo under an interruption Creeping Darkness could have been cool! it's a shame that Malice only has lvl 3 (maybe only for now) I can't find any good cyberse extenders that are dark lvl 4, but maybe for a Chaos version it would make more sense🧐

all in desc sir 🫡

I went with Firewall as it's the line that I saw stand out the most and it's also the easiest to do as a one card combo On paper, I also think it would be better, but we have to see to what extent it is possible I see a lot of ideas coming out in the comments, I might do a 3rd video with this kind of combo but I prefer to wait for the last link 3 first🫡

I do prefer shorter combos, especially in a tournament setting since it just saves time and less chance of messing them up by doing the long combo. Just make a strong enough board that isn't too long to make that's effective at stopping your opponent.

I do agree, its the same issue mathmech has struggled whenever they go through the splash mage route. they do have more options than mathmech though because besides i:p, malice can use their own archetype links for interuption, unlike mathmech since they have no link monster. so thats one upside that malice has.

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Historically, Cyberse Link Decks summon like crazy so Nib has always been a big weakness to their strategy. That being said, Malice being able to main Shifters and have all the banish synergies are probably the biggest reason to play this Cyberse link summon spam deck.

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Think this deck Can make apo under 5 invoc 😅

Example?

field spell is a negate, nib is useless against this deck

@@rmr8464that raizeol field spell not malice field spell

@@rmr8464 jajaja That's why raizeol is better

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It found a new home.

I love cybernetic and beyond happy about my favorite type getting the Alice in wonderland theme

Lmaoo yeah litteraly the same deck with different theme

Lmaoo Although I like the deck, it's true that it's quite a shame to use the classic board Cyberse + Shifter plays 🥲 There is still a link 3 to reveal, in addition to the next waves of support I dare to hope that the deck will manage to find more options specific to it, like Marincess or Salamangreat do 🙏

So would you say main decking shifter is good here or nah

@@hiddenfog180 It's totally playable without Shifter, but the card is so broken and being able to play with it is such a strong buff on this game that I think it remains competitively more interesting to have it main

I guess could play the deck a little more dynamically. If you open shifter it locks you out of the big cyberse end boards so you can maybe just make the link 3 something else and then pass. Play control and then kill on crackback. Then if you don’t open shifter you are free to do a more standard cyberse end board. Have you tried doing plays that don’t lock you into cyberse so maybe you can have an end board like the link 3 that banishes and a Knightmare Gryphon?

@@lankeysob yeah, theoretically it should be possible to have at least Crypter + MTP07 which does 2 bans under shifter (not counting handtraps)🤔 I recently saw the video of IrooYGO which allows with Shifter and Dormouse to finish on Apollousa 3, 1 Malice on field and 1 in hand, Ransom and MTP-07 I invite you to watch if you are interested! I think it's certainly possible to abuse I:P too, knowing that S:P can trigger the effect of Malice in the graveyard, but I haven't seen anything on Gryphon yet but that doesn't it doesn't seem impossible 🧐

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Its a third link monster

It's pretty bad sadly

totally playable, but the video mainly highlighted the one card combo (I hadn't thought about exceeding too) But the card should easily be great for all 2 card combo