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All sparring suffers this flaw, I agree. Lessons from full contact contests and real fights must be learned and incorperated into flow cycle drills. Skills from sparring are often worthless in real contact fighting. It does not work the other way, and many MMA people today are falling for this trap. Here I am playing a role for the cage fighter. His ego must be developed as a WINNER, because it was only a few weeks before his fight. No injury and no doubt in his mind. I used this video to show the WT in an alive setting, and my skill allowed me to be successful. He actually used something we worked on in his fight too. The dude is a TANK, former military, and when we sparred much harder a few months before I had to keep him away by kicking his thigh and pelvis, then pounce on him when he stumbled. He hits HARD!!!

@ it, unfortunately, doesn’t show wing chun in a very good light

What exactly does it take to impress your bias then?

@ bias?

@@indefenceofthetraditionalma The video shows pure WT methods making contact on proper targets, using the standard MMA point sparring drill. It shows WT methods to prevent and avoid sparring hits too. Do you not believe in MMA drills? Is this not proper WT in an alive MMA drill setting? So what then is not impressive? You are biased and can not see it, no mater what we do. I cruzed your channel big guy, and I do not see you doing ANY sprring with MMA people, tall as you are. You come here and trash talk with your condesending jokes,....yet have not stepped into an MMA school yourself? (If I missed it let me know)You instead post real pros as examples of your so-called Tai Chi? Un-impressed with this fanatasy....put up or shut up.

I have, several times, which is on this channel. DTT vs Sirc was a full contact challenge fight I did, in 2009. I am 54 years old this month, still healthy in the knees and elbows because I DONT do MMA. But I do need to do some cross training sparring next year.

@ yeah, I saw one of your videos and did indeed laugh

It is scandelous to suggest it, but yes, I do not think many of the great Sifu's who started their own schools in the early 1960's or before, and those who moved to the USA or Austrialia in the 1950's and 60's learned all that GM Yip Man had to offer. He was under pressure from his own seniors himself, which nobody today seems to remember, so some secrets had to be kept. GM Yip Man did not make junk! So they would have learned a wonderful style and complete it would be, if tey really did learn all six forms, but he would have kept secrets for is own reasons. I believe this was true for GM Yip Man himself too, that his own different teachers in his life taught "incomplete" versions or simply different ways, and also, I believe he perfected Ving Tsun in weak areas and even invented his own advanced material. So what he taught to those still engaged in lessons in 1970-73 would have learned his final masterpiece. For example, the version GM Yip Man learned first from the Money Changer was not as developed as what he learned from a Si-Mo in secret from the Snake Crane secret society. In Hong Kong, he taught a hard style CMA at first, and only taught the full Dummy lessons to private students. Those private lesson students do the kicks as one set in the Dummy Form, the cross step into slant kick combined with a kick to the dummy leg, but in the later sets these are seperated into two different sets. GM WSL surely completed a version of Ving Tsun. But maybe it was a little more like the old fashioned hard style and did not focus on toe-in adduction and posture pulling step. These are missing from the Bil Gee as they do it. I can not say what his line keeps secret, but they all accuse Dr, Leung Ting of making that stuff up. Master Yip Chun however learned very little from his father and only showed up for lessons when Bruce lee made it famous. He was told to go to Leung Ting for the Wooden Dummy to complete his learning. History has shown he chose to smear his teacher instead of honoring his fathers instructions. William Cheung invented a lot and we can see that his spying on classes from the roof caused him some confusion. It seems obvious to me that he watched students doing the Dummy Form in the air, and believed it was the third form, which is why TWC Bil Jee steps forward at angles. After 1973 when he returned to Hong Kong I believe many greatSifu's believed his con, and unfortunately drifted their WC toward TWC in the effort to smear LeungTing. On the wooden dummy specifically, it is a historical fact that he taught it differently to several people, as an air dummy set before they had a Chong, and then slightly different to various people. He forgot sets, did some on the left andfor others on the right, etc...Little Ting was a scholar and was running the Ving Tsun Atheletic Association classes in 1970, so the final version of the Dummy, with the secrets to keep, would have been giving to him. GM Yip Man told his son to go to him for this reason, and anyone at that time should have taking this as a clue as to who had his final version. I believe many of them cleaned up their version in the 1970's this way, before the Golden Booklet, if they remained in Hong Kong.

@@DrTzeus Truly, thanks for sharing those thoughts! I did kinda notice bits and pieces of these "odd curiousities" going thru old stuff in the internet. Got curious of the wingchun and the sifus about 4 years ago... especially YC i thought he would naturally be the defacto guy as he seem to present himself in various media... couldn't be farther from the truth... but the more I dig, the more I LOL. :) Yes, I think i could see what you mean with the other known sifu's stuff. Hey is there good evidence about the snake and crane? That Si-Mo first i heard of it is from sergio. Really enjoy watching your content! :)

​@@MrOsiric That is the Si-Mo I refer too. I believe she is why GM Yip Man was strongly in favor of the Nun and little girl story. Sifu Wayne seems to be legit. I do not know much of the details on WHY they became a secret society, but the matriarchal aspect of it seems important. Buddhism gives women equal rights, and in practice it is often matriarchal, and the history of China has been to destroy these female respecting cultures in favor of Confuscianism, over 4000 temples destroyed over the centuries, and only the Shaolin Temple was allowed since they saved an Emperor at one point. I think that is why so many stories claim to be "Shaolin" and got bundled together, as any other was run out of town. The next stuff has nothing to do with snake crane, only with the notion of "secret society" in general. One of the "secrets" of Buddhism is tantric sex, still persecuted in China today. It is not a very far jump from powerful independant women teaching tantric arts to the notion of "sex worker." If we think about it, Yip Man collected the bribes from the brothels as a police officer in old China, so he had a secret connection to powerful madams, and that would be another place to find a secret society connection to old buddhist culture and fighting female monks. There was a British newspaper story about a Madam who enforced order with her kung fu and was on trial in the 1850's, and she had been "purchased" by a patron and educated as a wife, and when he died she became a madam of a brothal. Another often overlooked story is the famous Pirate Queen, whos pirate men could not rape, but they could take on wives, and the British newspapers wrote that the women used two short swords! This famous pirate queen had thousands of ships, and also sailed from the Pearl River Delta as her base. It seems the maritime culture of the 1700's and early 1800's along that coast is overlooked on purpose. If a prostitute or families from the pirate culture became well established their past would need to remain secret, just as the Buddhists had to hide or have their temple burned down. All three of these groups respected women in leadership and fighting roles....and a story about a Shaolin Nun teaching a little girl whoes betrothal was in jeapordy is a good story to tell children instead of "grandma was a ...." Back to Snake Crane of Sifu Wayne....in that story, it was the Red Junk Opera wharf that was burned down by the Army because they became too powerful, not a "Southern Shaolin Temple," but it is easy to see how that memory could become a "temple" as the actors who played Shaolin Monks fled into the revolution. It would only take a few decades to forget the monks where actors.

@@DrTzeus That pirates stuff looks like a good angle when looking for the knives. Most likely the butterfly swords!! You know, even the european sailors seem to be using cutlasses which bear a striking resemblance to them. That Si-Mo stuff might not be legit. Sergio and his group of Wangchung historians has ruffled up alot of wing chun lineages with his claims in some wing chun fb groups i follow. If you search Original Hendrik's video "Snake body crane limbs? Snake Crane secret note 1890 is the oldest writing existence of Wing Chun?" @21:15 hendrik santo admitted he made it up. If you watch that whole video, it seems he built up all that snake and crane stuff years ago, only to have it subverted by sergio and crew pushing up that wayne guy to be a legitimate inheritor. Now Hendrik proceeds to expose them out of spite...LOL :P Their real historical lineage is actually Dai Fa Min Kam WENG CHUN with that old man law who is the current head (who wayne says has lost his marbles) along with his student Mok (who wayne lambasts as a fake) they were also trying to branch out and rebrand. I think.. There is a video in youtube of both of them explaining what they are doing. Intriguing story! :P

​@@MrOsiric Hendrik is a liar and a fraud. Has he ever made a video showing his top student or any students? Anything he claims, if he claims they stole the idea from him for example, is just another lie from his conartist mouth. Sifu Sergio has toured all of China getting hands on interviews with the Wing Chun oldtimers. His WT foundation served him very well in this effort, and he has produced a very coherent theory of the developement of Southern China CMA. Sifu Sergio produced a refutal of Hendriks BS, with timeline showing Sifu Wayne had no influence from Hendriks scam. Sifu Wayne has now gone on tour and proving himself by touching hands with others, while Hendriks hides in his garage. On this Snake and Crane thing. Hendriks invented this name because the anti-Leung Ting people in Hong Kong prefered the "snake fighting a crane" story instead of the WT "Crane fighting a Fox" story in the WT Kuen. According to Leung Ting GM Yip Man was very strict in saying NO! to the Snake and Crane myth, while he remained neutral on the Fox legend. Dr. Ting makes good proof that the Fox is really a Monkey aka a "red fox flying in the trees" from Burma, and it connects to the ancient martial art that became Muay Thai. He proposes that the Nun modified her white crane with this Burma boxing method. Snake and Crane is an old story, from Tai Chi and even kung fu movies. Hendriks used it because of this, I believe GM Yip Man would have wanted this story to be silent to protect his connection to the real one, which Sifu Wayne made public in 2011(?) Since the 1990's in WT we have always said Snake and Crane is a Thai Chi story, and people that go that way do push hands instead of Chi Sau. On the Weng Chun roots, I agree, the White Crane temple in Weng Chun region did produced the highly educated Buddhist Nuns and female scholars who went into the world. Ng Mui is documented as one of the women from this school. A different young lady from this school started a college of healing and primary education with her husband in a large town, teaching everything from reading and math, to healing and kung fu, but that school was shut down by the jealous men who did not appriciate educated women. (From "Origins of Wing Chun" book I think) But that only explains the White Crane connection, which I group with Thai Chi and other push hands styles. Every CMA in Southern China has some kind of basic chi sau in this way. Ving Tsun advanced in a unique direction in the late 1800's. Sifu Wayne's and GM Yeun Kai San's Wing Chun seem to have a connection here, and GM Yip Man seems to have kept it secret from most of his students. Leung Ting seems to have re-invented this secret on his own and I believe this is why GM Yip Man took a likeing to him. WT Chi Sau advances beyond what everyone else does in the third form, and even more so in the Wooden Dummy. Ting was doing this stuff in the 1960's,including ground fighting and advanced elbow sets. He even admits he took methods from other CMA to fix weak areas in Ving Tsun, but using the centerline theory. I think he used Muay Thao to improve the elbow sets. The other guys are not so inventive and just copy the sloppy choreography and appeal to CMA tradations. Many in the USA obviously used Thai Chi rules instead of Centerline theory, and now they stand on their front leg and move their trunk around with arms playing catch up, the exact opposite of what chi sau is designed to do. So, for them, the Snake represents traditional CMA animals, and their Wing Chun is just the hard style "shaolin" and not really Ving Tsun as GM Yip Man held secret in Hong Kong. The Fox is not a traditional CMA animal,....and it secretly is a monkey anyway, so the Fox represents a small and cunning animal style that added clinging Fook Sau to the Tan and Bong "Wings" of White Crane. One last note of the double swords. All Southern CMA had to teach double dao, the short sword that splits into 2 swords, as a requirement for militia. hey also had to teach long pike for same reason. When landlords had to provide militia soliders to the army, a kung fu teacher would be hired to teach these. In this way they are not unique to Wing Chun or any other style. The Bart Cham Dao are daggers, not swords. They are more like a bolo knife from the Filipino arts, with a hilt like a cutlass as you mention. Short daggers are better in tight quarters like a small ship deck or inside the hull. The goat clamping stance is great for holding onto masts and wharf pilons when using sailing boat rigging, and connects to the long poles used to move junks around. This is another maritime connection. The Pirates again....

While I enjoy being satire and a paradoy of myself, and the ongoing mockery of failing WC schools,.....I actually used WT anti-grappling for the WIN in a challenge fight at a Bullshido Throwdown in 2009. I takes real talent to do both. Thanks for the comment. It got more likes than the video....

Not as terrible as the nothingness you upload.

Right!?! HAHAHA.....I think it is just the normal rocket tower clamp concept, just hardened and made huge to work in reverse to grab like a claw...makes me wanna look it up now. Thanks for the comment......

Thank You very much! There is great joy in a super-saturation of information you already know, which causes a crystalization of awareness. Something new, out of what we already knew.......

You get what you pay for....but I agree, I should never allow the viewer to see that corner of my garage, only the pretty side of the room we use for Kung Fu like a good media influencer does to get the likes. You people are so picky and have such short attention spans....never mind if what I offer works for you,....just pick on what you see, DIdn't learn anything? OK, have a nice day,.... I filmed this after training and free sparring, but I bet all my videos look unsteady on my feet. But I am 53, with two healthy knees and no pot belly. Not many other martial arts offer that after 30 years.

@@DrTzeus to be honest, I owe you an apology. Keep doing and enjoying what you are doing. I have a negative experience with a WT teacher I partnered with to clean up and rent out part of his school to convert into my own immaculate personal training studios. And to fitness train his WT students with cardio sessions. I think combination of a cold , getting repeatedly punched to hard in the head during full contact boxing other day, and general toxicity might be responsible. As compensation Here is a video of me from 12 years ago , doing what I might call explorative sparring with an mma beginner. I had to be careful about his groin and his eyes, so was kicking a little bit higher than nesscery and touching his forehead. And despite it being obviously very light hearted play I actually got caught quite hard on the jaw which I think was the only meaningful strike haha but as you know if we then just heated it up no one would learn anything and we would both look like dicks ruclips.net/video/JVenOIHLu1g/видео.htmlsi=f6yQWsXbZ8LOJAHm

I teach private lessons, but I am open to new high caliber training partners.

What is alarming is that your opinion of Wing Tsun is weak, based on your playlists. I will take the Yip Man version made up by Leung Ting and Boztepe, thanks. You can enjoy that crap long forgotten in Weng Chun provience.

​@@DrTzeuswhat proportion of the training is freestyle sparring utilising technique?

Everything is introduced from free hitting, then reduced to a partner drill, and then given a solo exercise. We go harder at first, then dial it down into Lat Sau and Chi Sau over the years. Lat Sau is not free sparring, because we are forced to use techinque in an alive fashion. Free sparring is just sloppy high injury low quality stuff two beginners do together. WT is not sloppy by design. We train winners, it is a science. Most of class time should be partner work, 1/3 review(dead), 1/3 practice (alive) and 1/3 of the time in Lat Sau free play. Head gear and gloves, body armor handicap stuff, that only comes out a few times a year. But beginners need a lot of time on new material and fine details.

@@DrTzeus you might be right , at 70, having practiced wing chun for 52 yrs, taught for 40, had been schooled by 6 reputable wing chun teachers in HONG KONG, I would like to think DAILY that I have yet to learned lots. But rich and blessed life I lead, dined with Yip Man on 4 banquet occasions, and met Bruce Lee twice ( though not on martial arts matter )...I consider myself knowing wc just a bit more than based on what I have seen in your video. Kill those Hollywood props in the backgroubd, re-learn wc from the start but apart from the 2 names you had mentioned PLEEEEEASE.

@@少川靖男 I appreciate your kind words. I have choosen to become a mechanical product of Seven plus 1 sections of WT, as taught to me in the 1990's. Someone had to avoid mixed MA, and do the thing as taught. I was blessed by chance with the AWTO school I attended in 1994, so I owe it to the next generation. I hope you watch all three parts of this video set. Currently I am doing the Wooden Dummy Form, and it is evolving my Biu Tze Sections. We shall see what shows up on film over the bext decade!

It is training, not fighting. I have my challenge fights uploaded. This is to show off Wing Chun talent.

@@DrTzeus what do you mean?

@@krukidactz2650 Training does not look like fighting. I have been in fights, and I have several sparring matches and even a full contact UFC rules challenge fight I won uploaded in here.

He is usually coming to class after a long work shift, tired face....but he is very relaxed. He never talks on film and he gets very serious about perfect performance. I say he looks too stoic.

Each punch is a Jab. Does a boxing Jab work? But they must be coordinated with the step ot trunk turning to hve the body weight needed for a KO. If a person is not 170 Lbs or heavier it is very hard to KO anybody with a punch. The rapid punching in a chain punch is to get blocking motions up really fast. Our punches become our blocks if they hit an arm on the way in. We tend to try to fold up a Jab into an elbow strike if we need to KO an enemy.

Am I a Jew? What are you asking here? We do hold temple on Saturday, but we practice Kung Fu to celebrate LIFE. All religions are welcome at Iron Dog Temple Gym.

Stopped drinking about 6 years ago, but I am very ill, thanks for noticing....we each have battles.

With his little pony tsil???

His Uncle has a ponytail? People with no video uploaded for over a decade should not talk trash about how us heros look wne we do it.

Thank You! It is a good idea, and has happened on accident a few times. I am usually only thinking of lighting on us, and if we stay in frame, and less aout background. We have not hit the table, but we do toss eachother into the dummy arms on occasion.

It is a good question. With a heavy steel sword, we must learn to STOP the thing too. With an edge, it only needs to penetrate a few cm to have effect and then we must remove the tool or it will get caught in the wound. So when we strike, we hit will full power to a place. The second reason is that "all the way thru" tends to leave a person open for a counter strike. Short crisp hits that end in a guard position are what we seek.

This song was a free download in the early days of internet, a remix of the theme from the movie Platoon. It recieved a copy right violation tag in Europe for a while and became hard to find. I think KRK was trying to shut us down as this video had audio blocked from it....I no longer have that PC hardrive,....but I will see if I can figure it out. Might take some time but if I do I will comment here.

HA! Found it easy! Platoon - Adagio For Strings ( Tiesto remix ) Thanks, now i can add it to my playlist!!!! ruclips.net/video/r3U7QJ6pN1I/видео.html

Thank You, that has been my goal, glad you noticed....