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I'm at ~8000 hours and I still learn new tricks here and there. Just learned something new from a comment on this very video. The learning never stops with this game, it seems :D

With Otto you start off incredibly OP and should literally just start conquering everything from day 1. It's a more linear World Conquest. As Austria your late game following my route is much stronger than Ottomans, but you have to collect all your modifiers which takes time. Bonus is of course that you get all of the HRE for free and PU colonizers instead of the hassle of fully annexing them. Not to mention the vassal swarm which in a speedrun setting allows you to fight multiple wars without wasting too much time. So it depends on who you are as a player. Do you like to keep it simple? Go for Otto. Do you like modifier collection, a bunch of tag-switching and can handle -20 monthly ducats in the early-game? Then Austria is your bet. As for a no exploits speedrun I think Austria is the fastest. A Mughals HRE is pretty hard to beat in terms of speed.

Thank you! There's a setting called "No limits on Idea Groups" in the options menu when you select your nation. Neither setting breaks ironman so both is allowed in speedrunning.

@@MiklMaar Thanks!

@@MiklMaar tip for tip, if you shift click provinces you can change the owner of the occupations all in one go instead of province at a time

@@TheXlharry No way! I can't tell how annoyed I've been of having to change owner of occupation individually. Hah, thank you.

@@MiklMaar It was just added in one of the recent updates, so don't feel bad if you didn't know it xD

I use OBS.

@@MiklMaar Alright, thanks, pity that it is too slow to run eu4 and record it using OBS in my computer.

Thank you! I can't seem to find the situation you're talking about. Do you have the exact timestamp? :)

@@MiklMaar 3:25:03 But I think I figured it out, the other war you were in concluded and the aggressor (France?) negotiated to have some provinces be given to you. It was way too late when I was watching this so I totally missed it last time, thanks! :) Mind if I ask more questions as I watch the rest of your video?

​@@zanekael6368 Ah, yep, that's exactly why! Sure thing, ask away :)

Glad you enjoyed the run! :) I never play horde so I was very surprised how much fun this actually was. Fun to the point I did a horde WC speedrun finishing around 12.5 hours. I planned to upload it, but forgot, and now the video is lost. Probably will give it another go with the new horde mission tree at some point. I upgraded my computer last year (see my 12 hour HRE WC for comparison; late game was a lagfest). Iirc I went from I7-5700 to I7-12700. Needless to say, the difference is very noticeable.

Thank you! In the options menu on the nation selection screen you can toggle "No limits on Idea Groups". It's disabled by default, but enabling it does not break ironman and is allowed in speedruns too.

Awesome that you’re interested in catching my runs live! It makes sense you missed this one as it was never streamed. I have streamed shorter runs in the past and as I'm getting more used to commentating while speedrunning I’m warming up to the idea of giving streaming another go. The next run I've planned is a glitchless HRE WC going for world record when 1.37 releases, and I think that'll be a nice run to livestream attempts with. In the meantime I have an offline horde WC speedrun in the bank I’ll release at some point :)

my guess is the emperor is dead while in the custody. The real question is why did he not reset the speedrun I thought he’s gonna reset

The emperor died before I won the siege of Beijing. The time lost is not THAT significant - 5 minutes maybe. But seeing as it is at the very start of the run I definitely could have, and maybe should have, reset. But well, now it's free time save for next run :)

@@MiklMaar I see thanks for clarifying. I dont play eu4 anymore sadly so I might be wrong but there should be better map mode that changes the color of the province after you raze it. Also if you're willing to redo this i'd watch it again from the start. I don't know why but watching oirat is actually fun as hell and I think next run might be different since in this run ming area was in not the usual state. I'm not sure about this one as well but there should be a way to assign a shortcut to the raze button :) Anyways hella good video and with commentary it was a pleasure to watch.

@@woski736 That's awfully nice and motivating words. Thank you! I recently started commentating my runs again, so my commentary will get better as I get more used to it. Happy that you're following! :) If any mapmode display raze-ready provinces different from already razed it would definitely be helpful in any horde speedrun. I'm colourblind though, so it would have to not be in the green-yellow-red palette that so many EU4 mapmodes use. Unfortunately there's no way to assign razing to a hotkey without modding, even with the ability to define custom hotkeys that was added some major patches back. That would be a huge time save, so if you find a way please let me know.

@@MiklMaarHello, thank you for your kind words didnt know that you are colorblind :) I played hordes a lot and I was almost sure that raze button had a shortcut which is “z” and I was right. Paradox removed it sadly but you can assign a shortcut in a minute via editing a gui file. I replied your message with a link and looks like youtube flagged it. I think you can find it easily. About the map mode it was diplo mad mode but looks like its changed by Paradox as well :(

That's awesome, you're welcome! Hopefully there's something good to take from this video too :) Personally I find it more flavorful to pick and choose what tags to switch to and execute that plan, over just spamming Eyalets everywhere. But I definitely had fun routing and doing both runs. It is quite cool how two fundamentally different strats are both viable in a speedrun setting.

Yeah, an England->GB run for sure could be fun. Iirc there's an achievement for completing the English mission tree, so it's not completely arbitrary in terms of speedrun-categories either. I'll definitely consider it :))

Yeah, it's pretty crazy how low the BBB time is now. Far lower than I thought possible even with speed 5. Back in the day for full Burgundian Inheritance you needed the ruler of Burgundy to die, then his son to die without an heir (or an heir with weak claim). That starts the event chain which gives you a chance to get Burgundy as a PU. Now you had to wait for Marie of Burgundy to die (a MTTH event of 15 years) to inherit Burgundy for free. This all needed to happen within the 20 years that BBB takes. Very unrealistic and not worth grinding for. Now France has a mission that forces that last part, which makes it much more doable (still 325 attempts, though). It does require me to conquer back all my cores first which was why the Alencon steal was so crucial.

@@MiklMaar Ah, I see! If there's at least one part that's less RNG then that's a bit help of course. Nice run either way!

When you take the HRE-reform "Revoke the Privilegia" all princes inside the HRE become your direct vassals for free and without using a dip relation slot. There are other possible huge vassal swarms (like Japanese Daimyos or Ottoman Eyalets), but the HRE is particularly nice for a 1-tag world conquest as you inherit them all by taking the final reform.

Isso é possível ?

Yeah, speedrunning definitely isn’t the most elegant style of EU4. It can look very economically sloppy with bruteforce-like fighting, but many min-maxing efforts are simply not very time-efficient. It especially hurts real time when fighting more than one war or, God forbid, coalition wars. On top of that you have the genuine misplays that come naturally from rushed play ( and skill issues :D ). I’ve been playing like this for so long now that I get extremely bored trying to optimise a casual WC, TTM, or whatever. The Spain PU annoys me greatly. I never meant to fight that war in the first place, and eventually decided to savescum it as winning or even white peacing would have wasted sooo much time for absolutely nothing. I generally like my speedruns as clean as possible but at times there’s no choice. I would have savescummed the Milan PU as well if I had noticed but in the end that didn't really matter.

To save time. The son will automatically give the titles to other family members or create new vassals of his religion.

The Kongo mission tree has many good perma modifiers. -15% war score cost, +15 max absolutism, -20% liberty desire, +10% governing capacity, and more. These are all very important in a WC speedrun.

Noted. Not a bad idea. Rushing AQ before Mamluks gets a chance to take Ar Raqqa and do the Syrian reconquest dance instead, which could be a neat little time save. I do like using QQ as cannon fodder against Mamluks, but it's probably worth the extra manpower/mercs to get a streamlined conquest of AQ+QQ.

​@@MiklMaar i play alot slower than you and a worse player so my ideas might not be worthy XD but it helps me get into that hug box very easy