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Metalweasel
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Anti-Armor DETHRONED?! - AA vs Aristocrats - Fallout 76 Heavy Guns
Is Anti-Armor still one of the best 1-star weapon effects? Or will the underdog Aristocrats have something to say about it?
In this video we compare the total damage output of Anti-Armor and Aristocrats, as well as seeing how Stabilized factors into this dynamic.
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0:00 - Intro
0:16 - Weapons used for testing
0:45 - Perk card loadout
0:58 - Testing requirements
1:28 - Behemoth testing
2:59 - Super Mutant Testing
4:09 - Mirelurk Queen Testing
5:15 - Results (bar graphs)
5:39 - Results (number comparisons)
5:48 - Stabilized damage increases
6:34 - Anti-Armor discussion
7:03 - Bloodied or Junkies
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In this video we compare the total damage output of Anti-Armor and Aristocrats, as well as seeing how Stabilized factors into this dynamic.
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0:00 - Intro
0:16 - Weapons used for testing
0:45 - Perk card loadout
0:58 - Testing requirements
1:28 - Behemoth testing
2:59 - Super Mutant Testing
4:09 - Mirelurk Queen Testing
5:15 - Results (bar graphs)
5:39 - Results (number comparisons)
5:48 - Stabilized damage increases
6:34 - Anti-Armor discussion
7:03 - Bloodied or Junkies
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Wait a sec - you can customize the Holy Fire?!? 😱 (or is it some legacy glitched weapon you found ?) How - how do you do that - I thought the Holy Fire was unmutable and only came with hardcoded mods :O
Not using all damage buffs that you would normally use shifts this comparision in favour of Aristocrats as all damage bonuses are calculated additively, while Anti-armor is technically a multiplicative bonus. If you stack less damage buffs the 50% damage from Aristocrats has a bigger impact on your damage than it would have if you would have stacked all damage buffs. So under a more realistic scenario with more damage buffs Anti-armor will probably be better. But this doesn't matter as Anti-armor is getting indirectly nerfed next patch as there are some combat rebalance changes on PTS. Most enemy types will have less damage resistance but more health with the next patch, so armor penetration will have less impact on your damage than it has now on the live system.
Thanks for putting in the work, I think a lot of FO76 players will appreciate it. But I think bosses are where many of us maximize our damage potential. I think the same tests vs Scorchbeast Queen, Earl, Storm Goliath etc would be informative. But regardless, thank you
Yeah, like some other people said, to use aristocrat you have to make sure to have enough caps, which I spend regularly. I’d rather have anti-armor or bloodied.
If you want to spend caps then those are great options
Please compare bloodied damage vs Aristocrat damage but with bloodied built and may want to include AA
AA still better for pvp pushing damage through mitigation
Anti Armor is just more open to other builds imo. No need to stock up caps, get addicted and lower SPECIAL stats, and most importantly very useful to heavy weapon users who don't like power armor.
That's a benefit of AA for sure. And the damage difference isn't much in a lot of situations
should the test with the same gun and stars shield the same result?
it should, unless the perk cards/something else is different
AA all day I like to spend caps lol
AA is still rad for that reason for sure
In addition to plasmacaster I also use a gatling gun. Both do better than your weapons in this video IMO
I run a plasmacaster heavy gunner PA build and just started using aristocrats but might go AA if I can find the mod cheap or finally get lucky and get it from scrapping
My choice is Anti-Armor against bosses and Aristocrats against minions 🥹
interesting way to approach that. Makes sense, since it seems that tankier enemies narrow the damage difference between AA and Aristocrats with all of their resistances/reductions (like the Mirelurk Queen in this vid)
Aristocrats is definitely good... your results show about the same as mine. However, I can't handle the paranoia of being that high in caps all the time, since my vendors are always busy haha So Junkies it is for me. I've done Junkies for a long LONG time and find it almost always outperforms AA in every respect.
Junkies = respect. Thinking about trying it out.
health regen while swimming is a totally valid point to your build ( I'm definitely not being sarcastic)
NEED. IT.
@@Metalweasel I swear Bethesda knows what people want
Hahaha noob we know witch one is better
I personally disagree, if you'll take a look at my wallet you'll clearly see I will never be within the damage percentile to beat anti armor
Getting Junkies is another alternative
@@Termatinator I love the implications of this, "Dont have enough money to do damage? Have you tried drugs?"
@ 😂😂😂
if you're ever looking to gain some caps, I'm always at the cap haha
*always at the cap cap. no cap
Then reason stabilized is only like another 20% more armor penetration is because it's getting rid of 45% of the remaining 50% of armor
^^^this
This was my assumption, as well. Multiple sources of anti armor probably stack sequentially, not cumulatively. So if you use a weapon with AA and a 3* Stabilized or equivalent perk card, you get a total reduction of 72.5% which lines up perfectly with what he said in the video. Also, if your primary weapon has access to a non-legendary mod that offers armor penetration like the Perforating Magazine on the Combat Rifle, you can kinda get the best of both worlds by stacking the magazine and perk card effects for decent armor penetration and still rock Aristocrats or another bonus damage legendary.
THIS. Thank you for explaining it that way, puts it into perspective now.
Good vid subbed;)
heck yeah preciate that
I did some half-assed personal testing as well, and it turns out that.. non-critical attacks against bosses/high armor: bloodied>aris>AA critical hit attacks against bosses/high armor: AA>bloodied>aris Considering that Heavy weapons are getting lesser vats cost in the upcoming updates, PA critical heavy gunners might find AA useful, specially in the raids.
It still depends on the weapon. If you have a weapon with a focus on DOT damage (Cremator), then legendary effects that give a % damage bonus like Aristocrats/Two Shot are still better. For whatever reason, DOTs gains no benefit from Anti-Armor.
I thought vats crits bypassed armor?
@@user-cz9jf1ec8snot anymore with the latest update, at least against nuke bosses and possibly all enemies vats crits do not bypass armor anymore
nice, thanks for dropping your test results. messing around with crits with different 1 stars needs some testing now
Was a good video
much appreciated
The graph at the end looked like election results lol
vote Behemoth for cheaper gas prices
Antiarmor has been shit for a while, i can't believe it took people a while to find that out
no big buns bobble head😭
what a shame
no love for junkies.... :C
WOOT!!
ayyeee
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@@amibot42069 yar
unavoidable death too 💀 not even mysterious savior nor self reviving power armor could help
PA Reboot is your only option atm
@@Metalweasel Unstoppables #4 magazines also works. It has +30% chance to avoid melee damage and works against the Stalker. If you combine it with Power Armor Reboot you have a chance of 1-0.6*0.7 = 58% of surviving a hit instead of "only" 40%.
Injector to lower the defense by 25%?
yes
It's funny. It reminded me a bit of risk of rain 2 in the late stages so I put on the soundtrack and it kinda works.
Haha
Do a flip
it was beautiful
The salute really took me tf out
It’s perfect 🫡
He went YEET 😂
GONE
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Hmm... Pretty sure I won't be able to make the two star int armor pieces atm, as resources are rather low. But don't think I'll have issues with anything else (besides the recent nerfs ofc). Thank you for the video. Very well detailed and well explained. 10/10
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Shut up bitch 🔥🔥🗣️
Im a new player sadly :(
welcome new player! just start with what you can get your hands on. It's double xp weekend currently so Westtek will def help you level fast even with minimal equipment. come by a livestream sometime and we can chat about how to help you out
This is so helpful. Thanks, Weasel!
anytime, happy to help
How were you able to one hit super mutants with the V63? It takes me 5 million hits to kill them lol
Power attack every time. also there was prob a tasty yao guai roast active with some STR buffs.
@@Metalweasel awesome, thank you!
UPDATE - Patch 1.7.15.12 as of Oct 22 2024 - Backwoodsman 6 and Live And Love 3 are officially dead, and 88 INT is no longer do-able. Other magazine options are: Live & Love 8 (+5% XP when on a team, best option probably), Zeta Invaders Magazine/Atomic Command Magazine (+1 INT)
Awesome tutorial
Im still pretty new to fallout 76. Where do I find the SS Westtek Armor?
Secret Service armor and it's mods are bought from Regs using gold bullion in Vault 79 after completing the Secrets Revealed quest. The Unyielding/INT/Cavaliers buffs on the armor are applied using mod boxes which have a small chance to drop from scrapping legendary items at a workbench.
@@Metalweasel awesome thank you!
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Going to be FUN!!!
For sure. You on the PTS? Looking for people who are competent and down to run a few
@@Metalweasel I am, I was planning on going back later, near the end, to check everything out some more. Stuff changes so often, I'd like to wait to get a more final look, instead of getting excited for stuff that might not be that way live. I'll keep an eye out for when you are on and can stop in maybe if you are in there.
Bruh can we get a build with all 1* perks in legendary card category
All you need for xp it’s to xp lvl 200 for having all you need…. Really bro
0:40 - "If you dont have all of the things listed, don't worry about it. Just use whatever you have access to."
That’s not the ps5 that’s the dev kit there is a difference
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