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Average Joe
Великобритания
Добавлен 2 сен 2020
These videos are for any average joe surfers who are thinking about going to a wave pool to surf and wondering if the new wave pools are any good.
Join us in our 12-month challenge as we find out if a beginner can get good enough to get barrelled from training at wave pool and in the sea.
Join us in our 12-month challenge as we find out if a beginner can get good enough to get barrelled from training at wave pool and in the sea.
Cutback 4 Week Challenge - Pt 3
How much has the Zoom coaching from the world's leading surf coach, Martin Dunn helped an intermediate surfer's turns?
In this Vlog we share a quick update on the 2 key points that were identified by Martin Dunn and how the progress has been going using his 4 week structured training plan.
Video Credits
Martin Dunn
www.martindunn.com.au
Hodi.tv
www.hodi.tv
The amazing Dan Scott
ruclips.net/channel/UCO0gZBbD2DXEMuL9G-tLdEw
danscotttt?hl=en
Timeline
0:00 Intro
0:38 Trailer
1:06 Surfing
1:33 Other Local Wave Surfers
2:07 Martin Dunn Identified Issues
2:38 LIVE STREAM with Martin Dunn TBC
2:50 Progression Waves
4:03 Getting On Rail
4:30 Barrel Setting Cutbacks
5:15 Martin Dunn Cutback Tutorial ...
In this Vlog we share a quick update on the 2 key points that were identified by Martin Dunn and how the progress has been going using his 4 week structured training plan.
Video Credits
Martin Dunn
www.martindunn.com.au
Hodi.tv
www.hodi.tv
The amazing Dan Scott
ruclips.net/channel/UCO0gZBbD2DXEMuL9G-tLdEw
danscotttt?hl=en
Timeline
0:00 Intro
0:38 Trailer
1:06 Surfing
1:33 Other Local Wave Surfers
2:07 Martin Dunn Identified Issues
2:38 LIVE STREAM with Martin Dunn TBC
2:50 Progression Waves
4:03 Getting On Rail
4:30 Barrel Setting Cutbacks
5:15 Martin Dunn Cutback Tutorial ...
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The Vlog I Never Wanted To Share...... Surf Skate
Просмотров 97414 дней назад
I've never been on board with using a Surf Skate But I've been told by many people that it's beneficial for your surfing so here we go. Martin Dunn Videos in this vlog available on the Hodi.tv platform www.hodi.tv 0:00 Intro 0:24 Trailer 1:00 $1000 Board Giveaway WINNER 1:29 Surf Skate 2:18 Martin Dunn 3:40 Snoopy Hips Bottom Turn 4:07 Next vlog - Turn Progress
Cutback 4 Week Challenge - Pt 2
Просмотров 828Месяц назад
Update from the End of week 1 in trying to improve a top turn. 1. Turn higher on the wave 2. Leading arm - open it up to prevent locking body and the torso from rotating Snoopy Details www.snoopystyle.com snoopystyle_ FREE $1k BOARD GIVEAWAY 1.Follow the Hodii.tv Instagram channel hodi.tv 2. Find the pinned post, LIKE and comment with 2 x friends pC7...
Cutback 4 Week Challenge - Pt 1
Просмотров 1,2 тыс.Месяц назад
Start of week 1 in trying to improve a top turn. 1. Turn higher on the wave 2. Leading arm - open it up to prevent locking body and the torso from rotating There is also the dreaded pop up to consider, but that's constant work in progress. FREE $1k BOARD GIVEAWAY 1.Follow the Hodii.tv Instagram channel hodi.tv 2. Find the pinned post, LIKE and comment with 2 x friends instagram.c...
Martin Dunn - Zoom Coaching From One Of The World's Best Surf Coaches
Просмотров 2262 месяца назад
Will A Leading Australian Surf Coach Be Able To Make My Turns Look Like This In 4 Weeks? Probably not, but it's going to be very interesting to see how much progress on surfer can make following a Zoom video analysis call, a 4 week plan and supporting coaching video tutorials and a lot of work on the land and in the water. Martin Dunn is a leading Australian Surfing coach. He has over 20 years ...
WIN A $1k Surfboard For FREE 🏄 Mid-Length vs Shortboard vs Fish vs Longboard 🏄
Просмотров 9222 месяца назад
Who doesn't like new surfboards especially if they are free? Well if you are one of the people that doesn't then this vlog isn't going to be for you. But if you are interested to know about a $1k NEW surfboard giveaway and why it's being given away to the surfing community then you're going to like this vlog. Links: Instagram: hodi.tv?hl=en Hodi.tv: www.hodi.tv/pages/Giveaway Ste...
Midlength Surfboards: Why Do They Trigger So Many Keyboard Warriors?
Просмотров 6 тыс.2 месяца назад
Talking surfboards, their dimensions, design and characteristics isn't always a simple thing to do, especially if you're an "intermediate" level surfer. "it's the surfer not the board..... you shouldn't be thinking of anything short.....I could rip on that board......Jamie O'Brien uses a foamie at Pipe and that's what your should be on..." So what's the reason behind so many internet keyboard w...
Moroccan Magic Pt 3: Pop Up Gold
Просмотров 3,6 тыс.3 месяца назад
I hate my pop up. There are probably 10 - 15 fundamentals which I struggle to do well at. If you want to know what a Moroccan surfer's golden advice was that has made a major change to my take off process and that might help you then this vlog is for you. www.snoopystyle #1 Moroccan surf guide and surf coach based in Taghazout. #surfcoaching #surfing #popup
Moroccan Magic Pt 2: Catching More Waves - The Peak
Просмотров 3,4 тыс.3 месяца назад
Some golden nuggets from one of the best Moroccan surfers in the Taghazout area, Snoopy Style, on how to catch more waves and maximise your fun in the water. #popup #surfing #taghazout
Moroccan Magic Pt1: Snoopy Styles
Просмотров 5923 месяца назад
In this vlog we travel to Morocco for warm water, great food and amazing point breaks. The trip gets cut short due to a detached retina but it's not all bad as we connect with one of the best surfers and guides you could hope to meet. This is part 1 of a series of vlogs taken over the winter of 2023/24.
One Of My BEST Sessions Yet
Просмотров 2,7 тыс.11 месяцев назад
Anyone who has been following the channel knows I'm happy to share all the bad footage, well in this vlog it's time to share one the BEST sessions to date! Video References: Hodi.tv: Masterclasses for Surfing from Pro Surfers (www.hodi.tv) Dan Scott's RUclips Channel: inspirational video footage of top level surfers doing their thing; please visit, subscribe, like and support etc.. @danscotttt ...
Having A Shocker
Просмотров 3,8 тыс.11 месяцев назад
Who likes having a shocker? That's easy, nobody. So what do you do when you have a nightmare session, especially when you've been recently having some really good surfs. Video Credits: www.Hodi.tv Gizmo Funkflyz Harry Shanker John Carter Greg Menager Music Credits: Fansi Pan - Yomoti Granny Dance - Scoobadive Pomaque - West & Zander Milkyway - Sum Wave Soft Speak - Siarate #surfing #wavepool #t...
Cutbacks: What Are All The Pro Tips To Date ?
Просмотров 1,9 тыс.Год назад
How much can your Surfing improve from getting top level information and training at the wave pool? If you've been following the vlog then you'll already have seen what is possible for on water riding progression in only 1 year of training, but if you're new to the channel and are curious as to the benefits of the wave pool then this channel is for you. I've recently been getting some video ana...
Pop Up: I Hate My Pop Up - Pt 2
Просмотров 2,7 тыс.Год назад
If you're Pop Up isn't perfect, then this video is for you. My pop up is far from perfect and I'm always keen to get some input and learn about details which will make it better. Video Reference: Video about using the upper body and changing body posture to help catch a wave is here: ruclips.net/video/osfxIARmlWc/видео.html Video from some Pro Surfers explaining some tips here: ruclips.net/vide...
Are Andy Irons & JOB Backhand Barrel Riding Techniques Simple To Learn?
Просмотров 1,7 тыс.Год назад
Are Andy Irons & JOB Backhand Barrel Riding Techniques Simple To Learn?
Turns: Pro Tips - Leading European Coach Advice
Просмотров 1,8 тыс.Год назад
Turns: Pro Tips - Leading European Coach Advice
Turns: Pro Tips - What Advice Did One Of The UK’s Best Surfers Say?
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Turns: Pro Tips - What Advice Did One Of The UK’s Best Surfers Say?
Expert Barrels: The Best Turn Wave?
Просмотров 4,3 тыс.2 года назад
Expert Barrels: The Best Turn Wave?
Expert Turns vs Advanced PLUS, The Wave, Bristol
Просмотров 8 тыс.2 года назад
Expert Turns vs Advanced PLUS, The Wave, Bristol
Vlog 20: The Final Time Of Waves I Want To Forget
Просмотров 1,3 тыс.2 года назад
Vlog 20: The Final Time Of Waves I Want To Forget
What Did A Pro Surfer Say To Help Our Pop Up? Part 2
Просмотров 6 тыс.2 года назад
What Did A Pro Surfer Say To Help Our Pop Up? Part 2
What Did A Pro Surfer Say To Help Our Pop Up? Part 1
Просмотров 11 тыс.2 года назад
What Did A Pro Surfer Say To Help Our Pop Up? Part 1
The Biggest Problem At The Wave Pool: Part 2
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The Biggest Problem At The Wave Pool: Part 2
Vlog 16: The Biggest Problem At The Wavepool - Part 1
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Vlog 16: The Biggest Problem At The Wavepool - Part 1
Vlog 15: Expert Waves - Back Home At Bristol
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Vlog 15: Expert Waves - Back Home At Bristol
Great analysis of the requirements 🤙
Bend, set, lift. It actually works :)
What board are you surfing? And dims too. Thanks
You're not going to tell me it's the board are you? 🤣
@averagejoe6355 🤣🤣 no not at all. I'm looking to buy a 7ft or 7ft2 board for the winter. That's why I'm wondering. But I think it's phipps one bad egg
@@jamesmcmorrow7292 just playing :) So you are right that this is a Mark Phipps creation. It's his Mk 9 short board (which is the one he rides). Shorter, a bit wider and more foam hidden vs comp shortboards. I will dig the dims out tonight for you but it's about 38 ltrs. Some important info to add..... it obviously sits lower in the water than my OBE and has more rocker, but it' is very very close to paddle power. Go figure. When I'm in the sea I have been using my OBE because it gives me more time to deal with all the factors that I need to get to grips with. My OBE is actually a mini bad egg, which means it's shorted and wider than stock dims. I actually wish I had a normal dim OBE now, but that's only because of progression, the mini bad egg has done me proud for the last few years. One board I'm thinking of getting for the winter and the ocean, is the epoxy OBE with a 1+2 set up. Mark's got a 6'6 which I wanted to steal for a few surfs because it's clear it has performance in it but all the good stuff of a longer outline. He's also been playing with a twin mid length outline...... I've just been to see him and record a pod cast so you can hear him talk about it there. Clearly loads of amazing shapers and options to look at, and it's important to not blindly follow any ideology, but the fact Mark is such a high level surfer and also an amazing shaper, it's hard to not get another board from him! I had a totally Kook question for him regarding why his offering of boards is so large, and his answer now makes total sense (because he shapes boards around the world for different waves and areas, the level of surfing and the types of waves dictates what works). Anyways... could talk boards for every, you just wanted to know the dims...🤣
@averagejoe6355 thanks for this answer. This is a great response. Yes total agree with you and him about different boards for different waves. My main go to board is a 7,10 that was shaped by a great shaper near where I surf. He knows the waves of the area, surfs them himself. I got a board that can catch a 1 ft er and 6-8ft bomb in the winter when I have the balls to paddle out into them. I have a 6.4 fish but I dropped down to fast and I'm looking for something in between to help progression. Thanks the advice. I'm gonna look at the one bad egg range and other mid lengths.
@@jamesmcmorrow7292 vesper from Album looks insane, Lovemachine from Ryan Lovelace getting a ton of love and spotlight at the moment, OBE (standard dim + shorter epoxy) and the Not Quite Right (think this is what he's calling the twin mid length) are all on my shopping list. If only we could try or have 🤣them all....... Wish there was a proper demo offering next to the wave pool so we could try a specific board in all the different dims.....
Worth checking out this guy, hid take helped loads 😃 …mako surfskate
Just checked. Looks good, seems to have some proper thought put into it
Would love to have some of my footage reviewed by Martin Dunn! Sending an email now!
Ok, let’s make it happen.
Love the way a 7yo kid is the star of the tutorial. I've been surfing about three times as long as he's been alive and still can't do a proper cutback!😢
Ha ha, I feel you. But we have wave pools now and we can be groms, even in our 40s!
Great analysis as always. Just wondering if you’ve seen that Kale Brock is coming to the Wave in October and is running some surf coaching days with video analysis. Maybe a collaboration?
@@wrules he’s a big deal, not sure he would want anything to do with a minnow like me 😂.
@@averagejoe6355 😂 always worth asking but failing that he still has spaces available in October
@@wrules you have a winning lottery ticket for me to buy a spot? 🤣
@@averagejoe6355 I wish! Four sessions, video analysis and more content for you and the viewers (me) may be a good investment 😂
I,m not sure if it was the same vid you talked about but I remember seeing Kelly Slater commenting about a surfskate vid saying "this kookyness must stop"..)
This is the one. It wasn’t about using a surf skate, it was about the bloke showing a technique which many believed was incorrect. I didn’t post the video because there wasn’t a need to pile on, but in general, some people are good at substance / product and some good at marketing. I’ve met a few other coaches that reached out to the bloke to say the technique he was pushing was bad. Everyone has opinions but when Kelly Slater is commenting about the technique then perhaps the community should take notice. Experience and credibility is key for information.
What board have you moved onto Is the Evo style board gone ? Are you down In Volume and board size?
Tomo OBE is a Cymmatic, about 40 litres. Also started using a shortboard which is about the same, maybe a litre less. Went up in length and volume to the mid length over the winter when in Morocco 45-50 litres. Then used the mid length a bit back at the pool before getting back on the shortboard. Still have the green Tomo board although it’s a bit beaten up to heavy use :)
3:15 That's it! Torqued out and on rail. Try sitting a little lower into the start turn and then shift your weight further forward as you start redirecting back keep projecting. Had you hit the foam instead of leaning back and cuttin it short, it would have slingshot you back and that would have been a pretty sick full wrap! ♾🔥 You can really tell something clicked around 5:00 cause you're accelerating out of the turn too i.e. on rail ✄
Ha ha, steady, give me a chance
Ha ha, steady, give me a chance 😂
Back foot over the fins will bring the board to life n make everything easier
Great to see you progressing so well. It’s not easy
@@MISOLPH thank you sir, much appreciated. Just loving the surfing like the next person :)
nice vid, what do you think aobut the advanced setting wave?? its got that flat point which i hate to be honest, but i never really tried any of the other ones? would you say the advanced plus be easier to practice these cut backs?
Thanks for the comment, let me answer tomorrow as it late now
@@averagejoe6355 still waiting for answer 😂
Looking good mate!!
Why thank you kindly sir! Want in on the Martin Dunn free coaching live stream?
Can you add a little note or symbol so we know what wave setting you are riding? Suspect many viewers try to replicate the lessons themselves at the Wave 👍
Great idea, will do this to help with context. Let me answer about this vlogs waves tomorrow as it late now :)
I was just about to mention your line on the take off. I see a few quality surfers out here in Costa Rica who will have their eyes down the line then instinctively pump to take a high line to generate more speed for the turn . Excited for the next blog. A bit i've taken from the guys at OMBE has been stacking over the front foot until the turn, that's helped me tremendously with speed generation. This wave pool is kind of fast but small so a pump on take off could be a good asset. Sometimes it's not necessary if the wave is big enough as you'll have enough speed on the drop. My 2 cents.
This is exactly what snoopy advocates, he’s advising eyeing up down the line from take off and depending on what the wave shape is like and surfers preference is a “speed line” double pump can work. Will try to do the topic justice next time. Thanks for the shout and contribution !
So helpful - Part 3 of 4 - can’t wait for the next 🔥🔥🔥
Might even be more than 4 parts 😂
The progress is steadily showing itself. I think in your good turns you chose the preferd section on the wave for the maneuver and carried more speed/drive in the setup. A good setup rly alows you to role the deck of the surdboard so you can engage the rail. In your other turns the board often stays flat. Ps: I agree that knowing what to do and ripping are two verry different things haha. I am a physiotherapist, so I rly like to analyse surfing video's. But I am a verry average surfer with not a lot of practice opportunities. I recently went to a wavepool to practice my flow and cutbacks and came up with some clips. We can compare some of them and help each other progress. Open to feedback from anyone, cheers. ruclips.net/video/uwyPGC7p39A/видео.htmlsi=KXrgAsuJuq_juWXv
Thanks for the contribution. Just checked our RUclips video out for Rotterdam. Nice. If you're interested in having Martin Dunn have a look at your surfing let me know and will add you to the list.
SURE! thanks for the opportunity
Epic stuff James. Changing the line was gonna be my next point too - the reason your second turns are better is because you’re trying to do a cutback at a super steep bit. If you run forward first and get ahead of the wave, you’ll have more time. PS - tried the wave pool coming up from Newquay. I Sucked. Take all my advice with a pinch of salt. Admire these videos even more.
Thanks mate! FYI, the pool is like any wave, it takes a bit of getting used to. Everyone (including pros) struggles in the first sessions. Just have to find the right take off spot then and know what options are available then you're be good. Don't give up on the pool, it's the gym for training. But if you live in Newquay you are going to be spoiled anyways!
@@averagejoe6355 cheers dude! I’ll have to give it a go next time and give it another chance. Get yourself down to Newquay some time dude I’d love to go for a paddle!
@@saulsjourney that would be sick, would love to do take you up on that, although please understand I'm a white belt in the ocean. What most people don't realise is that there are no short cuts for the experience in the ocean. I spent most of the winter taking my licks in the sea in Morocco (and loving it). Just don't expect to see any barrels or cutbacks from me in the sea! 🤣
@@saulsjourney I'd say cutting back on the steep part of the wave is important but of course not exactly in the pocket. Running out down the line will mean you're in the flats and have less drive to wrap around on the turn.
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Gr8 content as always 😊 and some sweet turns on the waves! as you say ...Snoopy rips !!
In snoopy we trust 😂
Don't let that wiggle to build speed become a habit you bring to your surfing, find a hill or ramp/bowl
Wavepool have just built one of those wave ramps. 100% my skills are low and the initial shots are about getting going and up a hill, but out of interest why is the wiggle bad for your surfing,?
@@averagejoe6355its because the hip wiggle that works in surf skating doesn’t work in surfing. Pumping on a wave is about getting high on a wave, then pressing down to increase your speed forward, then getting high and repeating that. With the wiggle, you’re swiveling the board back and forth and doing a push/pull action between your front and back foot. This doesn’t work for a surfboard. Don’t worry about eliminating the wiggling completely though. It’s really the only way to start moving forward from a complete stop. But once you get going, make sure you mimic driving the board forward with feet and weight pushing through your legs and downward. With a surf skate, and even tacking on a regular skateboard you do this by compressing, turning slighting to the heel side, leaning forward on your toeside and pushing with your front foot and then following through by throwing your arms in the same direction and then pulling the board forward with your momentum. Then reseting your body by compressing again.
@@averagejoe6355 It will not let you build speed on water but your body can start to mimic the movement when surfing. Only an issue if this happens otherwise no issue as it works well for speed building on the skate. Check out J.O.B's tongue in cheek video clip
@@michaeljarosinski5595 wow, you’re rockstar, thanks for writing this reply 💪
I thought you looked pretty good on the skateboard. I have an electric skateboard and it has helped me with technique and balance. I prefer that over the surf skateboard.
very kind but sadly can't agree 🤣
I never was able to figure out the body mechanics & timing to generate speed from rail to rail surfing. Starting to surf skate has been 100% the reason I figured it out a couple years ago. Right now I'm using the surfskate to get comfortable riding switch as I'm learning to wing foil & my switch stance is miles behind my dominant stance. Again this is helping me so much. Grateful for this learning tool.
Riding switch? WTF ?!?! That’s quite the flex, can even think how bad that would be for me on a surf skate 😢
Hahaha, you'd be surprised how quickly you'll learn! At least I was pleasantly surprised. Couple small sessions in my street (let's say 2 hours total) & it's going quite well. & I truly didn't believe it was possible the first time I tried it. My goofy footed stance was ingrained so hard. But quite quickly it did start working. I think it's just some brain wiring that needs to happen & you're good to go.
@@flowstatehandlethat’s still quite the flex! 💪
That turn at 4:18 was the best I've seen yet, nice!
Thanks 🙏 super nice to read this, made my day :) The turns are getting better IMHO but so many levels to this game
Surf skating at the Wave is peak COVID adult learner cringe
🤣 no idea what that is even supposed to mean,, but it's up there with the best comments the vlog has had 🤣
On the rebound try twisting more to get square to the wave pointing the front arm up at 12 o'clock as if your doing a backside snap. Then compress low and engage your toe side rail so you can simulate getting stable rebounding off the foam. Also helps with more front foot pressure and looking back down the line again to get speed going.
Also I noticed that your front arm when surfing locked a couple of times preventing the twist on the cutback. You opened up well on that second wave but didn't go all the way to the foam. Really enjoy watching your progress and helping me a long my journey too!
Tanks for sharing this! This is the next stage for me to try according to many expert eyes, so thanks for noting. In on of the videos in the outro you kind of see me try this.....badly but it's a start!
@@MachucaPermies again, a very good eye, This is 1 of the 2 points Martin Dunn identified a few blogs back. Trying to keep the leading arm low at a 6 o''clock position and even telling myself some words to try and do this. There are so many small details and points to get right but one that is currently in focus is where to position the board relative to the body to set the rail. think it probably depends on how much speed you reach the top of the wave with, but to get on rail and move from surfing 'flat' it seems there is something to it. Thanks again for the comments, super cool and much appreciated :)
@@averagejoe6355 yeah for me too. I have this mindset on a FS cutback as to first position myself high on the wave then think twist and hold a beach ball, no matter if I feel off balance leaning away from the board. On the contrary it actually gets you into balance as the board tracks back underneath. Then just think Andy irons and hit the foam as hard as possible lol.
@@MachucaPermies that word you jsut use, "hold". I think I'm guilty of trying too hard at the start of the turn, instead of setting the rail., getting the rotation going and then driving through the turn.. The joys of trying things and failing in order to get progress :)
Aww I would have liked to see the snoopy footage un mirrored, for us goofy footers..)
He is goofy. Happy to share, will drop if at the end of the next video as an Easter egg for you :)
@@HODItv Ahh man...i,m honoured..)
this is great, exactly the same challenges I've got with the turns!
Great, I’m not on my own! 😂 We can trade frustrations :) Martin Dunn is good and his structure of teaching is great. I’m kind of struggling to pull it all together
Nice progression over the year I’ve been looking at these clips! How many times a week are you there
Another great video James. My 2c worth... A suggestion: Watch some Joel Tudor videos. Notice how his back arm steers the board. His front arm just stays out of the way. An observation: In the Martin Dunn pop up video the guy is popping up off his toes. You can only do this on a longboard. Popping up on a shortboard is a lot more difficult. Hope this helps! You're doing great mate - just keep going. 🤙
Pop up off toes: ruclips.net/user/shortsG3t_SbT4_k8?si=tgLVyhraTGAF4nsn
sorry for the delay replying, mad busy! thanks for the share much appreciated! and the detail about shortboard popping up is noted!
Awesome video and great to see you progressing so well. Looking forward to seeing you on a skateboard
ha ha, that's not going to be a cool video :)
How dare you mirror a goofy footer! Us goofies have so few examples to watch and now there are people out there mirroring goofy clips! Lol
😂 it will work both ways….
Very cool. You have the perfect attitude to become a very good surfer. One thing in particular that stands out to me is your weight distribution in both your bottom turn and your roundhouse. Currently, I'd describe it as rather heavy on the back foot. That kills your speed and dynamism. These should be driving maneuvers where you engage more of your rail line and GENERATE speed. Perhaps experiment with going front foot heavy in both of these turns and report back. Best of luck! Subscribed.
Engaging the rail needs proper explanation because I have the feeling it's a rabbit hole! Which I'm more than happy to go down :) Thanks so much for the input, really appreciate people like you sharing your thoughts and trying to help. Thankyou
One more sub to the 1000 - who’s gonna do it
Boom! its there, 1000+ RUclips subs, thanks everyone!
Awesome, you the man 💪 What’s your thoughts on board position? What I mean by that is the vertical position of the board relative to the say the surfer’s hips? It looks like people who have the rail fully engaged have the board up and in front of them. Appreciate there are a lot of details to a turn and having some speed as you are about to turn is paramount. Could watch those slater turns all day
I think that goes hand in hand with leaning more into your turns. Your board needs to push back into your turn so that you don't just fall off. Getting the board up to the hips almost gets the deck of the board parallel to your body wich alows you to get the most amount of push back so you can really lay it down. Ofcours you also need speed to be able to go through these kind of body/board positions. In the thumbnail of the video video I think you actualy perform your best turn and you are kind of suprised and end up falling becaus you can't control the speed you get. So I would tell you to really exaggerate those movements and experiment with fully falling backwords and just pushing that turn. Worst case you fall, but you just need those glimps of exceleration and drive that make you go "that's it".
@@nelson9027 Surprised is probably spot on :) Exaggerating the movements is good advice. Next session coming soon, will try and thanks for all your input
Really nice content and concept. I think you need to learn to engage the rail. Through most of your turns you stay on top of the board and it stays flat in the water. This makes you slow down and screws up the fluidity of a good turn. If you watch kelly and snoopie you can see they almost always set up there turns by turning slyghtly to the opposite side first and then turn the board on rail around there center of mass. This way they get a kind of slingshot effect and excelerate. I think surfskating will really help you catch this feeling of exceleration and unweighting the board. Keep up the stoke and the grind, cheers
Agreed. So how do you surf less flat and start getting a more engaged rail?
@@averagejoe6355 first of all you need to engage the turn by rolling the board, frontside you aply a lot of heel presure and try to flex the ankles. Once the board is rolling you need to learn to shift your center of mass over the rails of the board. Frontside it's like dropping your but on to your favorite sofa. This will drop the rail further into the water making it possible for you to push against the board so you can knife trough your turn and excelerate. You can also use your leading arm to to guide you. You need to imagine yourself falling backwards into your surf stance and placing your leading hand onto a stool next to your outside rail and then pivot around it.
Can see the progress! Can't help but think back to your video in Morocco and the importance of putting your practice in the Wave into 'the real world'. Have you got any more trips lined up?
Not yet but to be honest, not expecting any turns on next trip to the sea, just more basic wave catching work.
Great stuff dude! Can really see you opening that front arm up like you said you wanted. Especially in one clip specifically your front hand was facing up. Looked great. I think another thing to think about is where you’re placing that turn. You’re going for cutbacks. And snoopy does a great job pumping & getting infront of the wave - which gives him time to really draw out that turn. Sometimes you can see yourself starting a turn, realise oh fuck I’m deep in the pocket and have to almost cancel it halfway. I’d love to see you try to pump, wait at the top of the face for just a second then really draw that turn out. Almost like waiting a beat between moves. Love snoopy doing that little fin release at the end. From the slow mo I was like “oooh that section is nice pleeeease hit it - BANG”. Might be able to get my first Bristol wave session in a couple weeks.Pretty excited to absolutely kook it up, coming from Newquay.
Thanks for the great comment and input! I’m clearly trying to figure it all out and there are loads of levers but the line Snoopy takes, a free links to get out in front, is something I’m going to try. Hearing him talk about speed and it impacting his choice of turn and how he approaches the wave was super cool. I think I need to get that rotation improved and get both arms going back up towards the white water. So much to do…..
You need more speed. Literally use 1 wave to do one turn. The lack of speed and your size means you will bog every time. The 1ft wave pool puss is doing you no favours. Take a holiday to a decent right point break with a good swell. A larger wave will give you speed on tap and allow you to do 10 turns on 1 wave and really start to get a feel for the "wrap" and how much or little you can do with any given speed. You look flat footed on your board. I would look at working on effectively generating speed. Good surfers generate this from the bottom turn stemming from a well timed take-off. You have neither. This leaves you the task of using the length of wave to get it. You can't activate your lead arm as you do mot have the speed to wrap the turn. Lastly, ensure your back foot is right at the back in the block of your tail pad. 2" inches can make a massive difference in arc tightness, especially at low speed. Native how many small wave specialists move their foot backwards just before commencing the turn
1 foot pool puss...... 🤣 Literally the best comment ever.
Lots of progress here. There are several good comments already. I agree with HF: you're surfing "flat." It's making you look undervolumed. Your torso is locked (enslaved) to your legs. It really should be the other way around, or, your legs and torso should be quite independent. Let me explain. The wave pool wave is the perfect wave to see and feel how, even on a shoulder or head high wave, pumping is required to link turns and sections; there's just not enough wave power otherwise. Paul demonstrates this well. Biggest difference I see between you and Paul is two things. 1. how active Paul is with his legs - he's loose, constantly moving them, always pumping the transition, and even when it looks like he's not, he takes advantage of the wave transition, by pushing his nose down into it (kind of like dropping in on a quarterpipe; wave is 3D not 2D!) and it translates to speed and energy. 2. A tricky thing next is how Paul is constantly pushing off his rail, pumping in the transition, yet he's not initiating turns with his legs. You'd almost assume with all that leg movement, that his legs are in charge, but for turns, it isn't the case. It's a relaxed, loose look - pump, pump, look of the head, big twist of the torso, slight delay, board turns. He looks, and then his arms, torso, hips, and legs follow. I know these concepts aren't anything new to you, but may be a different way to describe things you know! I like InfamousBeat's comment about the arm cue. You should be reaching with your left arm as if to touch the wave face (after looking over your shoulder of course). This is to bring your weight over the heelside rail. My big improvement in regards to these two came with frequent practice on my Carver surf trainer. I'd find a mellow ramp/transition, sometimes a mellow quarterpipe, but usually a flatish incline like a driveway, and focus on initiating turns with my head then arms/torso, then legs. I video taped sessions often to check form. Taking away all the extra elements like the drop in and waves made it easier to focus on the single variable I was working on. I love how on a surf trainer, you can pump the board just by sticking out your hands away from you on either side and simply twisting your torso left and right, kind of like a stretch we did in soccer we called the washing machine. You can totally feel how twisting your upper torso causes the hips and legs to follow, and it clicks. Riding boards on all kinds of transitions really lets you practice pumping, too. You get used to the idea of surfing as 3 dimensional, instead of 2. That is, you get to practice how springing your weight up and down on a transition, or weighting and unweighting through different aspects of turn or pump, generates different dynamics. All surfing turns are a variation of weighting and unweighting your body and energy. In a lot of ways, you are well past a surfer who only knows how to pump on the wave. You are linking turns together on a single wave, but I wonder how a session stepping back to focus on pumping and energy generation could get you feeling looser, getting you unweighting and weighting the board more, and be the step you need to unlocking your torso from your legs. Cheers and Godspeed
It's quite the game trying to get more on rail, find the body positing and positioning on the wave, let alone the timing to put it all together! Great comments about locked torso and lower body. I'm on this and this is why video is so good because to me they feel separated but clearly they are not! thanks for the share
You're surfing very "flat" and rushing things rather than engaging your rail. Surfing for me has been a series of "aha" moments where you change one small thing and realize a completely new "feel" and a ton more ability. My one tip is to try and keep that left arm on the outside of your left rail even when you're just surfing straight down the line. I think this might give you an "a-ha" moment.
If only it was that simple! 😂 feels like so much going on! Loving the leading arm outside the board rail suggestion. Appreciate it’s all about the torso rotation but all these suggestions that might help things click are brilliant. Super cool. Thank you 🙏
I kinda had this issue as well then realised that the opening of the arm by itself hardly does anything. It needs to be the result of you reaching down into the carve trying to touch the water (6:55), thus engaging the rail and getting a burst of speed on the way down. You also really need to sit into the turn as it's basically a BS bottom turn(6:56). On most of these waves too, it seems your head is lagging and you're not looking back hard enough, which forces you to stay flat and slows you down instead of accelerating back to the foam. Roundhouses are endless work in progress 😅💪🏻 For the pool as well, seems you might be undervolumed and stayin a little too far forward stance-wise which then forces you to swivel off the bottom rather than driving out🤔 Ask you friend Paul to let you try out his Js in Hyfy 😏
Amazing post? Apart from the board comment 😂 must be an Aussie 😂 Joking aside, the points about touching the water and looking back more… gold
Gold! Fat finger typing! 😂
Thanks for sharing!
No problem, more than welcome
You’ve improved so much, great work
Thanks for the kind words. The never ending journey but but love it! .
Hey dude - looks great! I’ve always found on cutbacks that dropping the leading arm down (turning your palm up) allows your to really open up and come all the way around
That’s cracking advice and if you look carefully I’m trying to do this. I don’t always remember but I’m trying! Thanks for sharing 💪
I think you need to work on you first bottom turn, that will give you more speed and make the next manoeuvre easier.
It’s a good point. If you want to be really dig into this then IMHO it starts even further back from the takeoff because I’m blowing a lot of time and speed, not making the drop efficiently. Then there is the discussion about the line to take and which location I’m actually paddling in…. But fundamentally it’s about speed, how much I have to start with and then what that opens up on the wave. So great point about seeing I don’t have enough speed for turn 1, I totally agree with this
I agree it's probably the combination of take off and first bottom turn that will (in most cases) define how you will surf the wave.
It’s the speed I lose from the start which is annoying. All good, all part of improving and I’m not overly negative, just a realist who totally agrees with your observation. More speed / energy to do what you want and reach the top of the wave…. And the rabbit hole of how you achieve this. Should get someone good to share their thoughts on bottom turns / where to do them / how different waves impact them / deep vs shallow ones / when to use them…. Think you’ve touched on a cool topic
Kale Brock has a pretty good video about that topic "The most important turn in surfing"
@@paulsamson2481will check it out, always keen to hear different opinions. Martin Dunn has some great stuff on the topic too. Quite the subject to get into
A proper forehand cutback is my main goal in surfing. Definitely looks like you made some progress.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. The great thing about surfing, always more details to incorporate and work on.
Do you Know which board Paul is on?
@@73jayzee one that clearly works! 😂
By the looks of it, seems to be a JS Xero Fusion Hyfy3 👀
@@inFAMOUSBeatsGFx I can ask him
Great stuff on the pop up good luck on the surf skate
Great channel!!
@@darrenfinch7308 thanks for the comment and support! Welcome :)