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Bend, set, lift. It actually works :)

You're not going to tell me it's the board are you? 🤣

@averagejoe6355 🤣🤣 no not at all. I'm looking to buy a 7ft or 7ft2 board for the winter. That's why I'm wondering. But I think it's phipps one bad egg

@@jamesmcmorrow7292 just playing :) So you are right that this is a Mark Phipps creation. It's his Mk 9 short board (which is the one he rides). Shorter, a bit wider and more foam hidden vs comp shortboards. I will dig the dims out tonight for you but it's about 38 ltrs. Some important info to add..... it obviously sits lower in the water than my OBE and has more rocker, but it' is very very close to paddle power. Go figure. When I'm in the sea I have been using my OBE because it gives me more time to deal with all the factors that I need to get to grips with. My OBE is actually a mini bad egg, which means it's shorted and wider than stock dims. I actually wish I had a normal dim OBE now, but that's only because of progression, the mini bad egg has done me proud for the last few years. One board I'm thinking of getting for the winter and the ocean, is the epoxy OBE with a 1+2 set up. Mark's got a 6'6 which I wanted to steal for a few surfs because it's clear it has performance in it but all the good stuff of a longer outline. He's also been playing with a twin mid length outline...... I've just been to see him and record a pod cast so you can hear him talk about it there. Clearly loads of amazing shapers and options to look at, and it's important to not blindly follow any ideology, but the fact Mark is such a high level surfer and also an amazing shaper, it's hard to not get another board from him! I had a totally Kook question for him regarding why his offering of boards is so large, and his answer now makes total sense (because he shapes boards around the world for different waves and areas, the level of surfing and the types of waves dictates what works). Anyways... could talk boards for every, you just wanted to know the dims...🤣

@averagejoe6355 thanks for this answer. This is a great response. Yes total agree with you and him about different boards for different waves. My main go to board is a 7,10 that was shaped by a great shaper near where I surf. He knows the waves of the area, surfs them himself. I got a board that can catch a 1 ft er and 6-8ft bomb in the winter when I have the balls to paddle out into them. I have a 6.4 fish but I dropped down to fast and I'm looking for something in between to help progression. Thanks the advice. I'm gonna look at the one bad egg range and other mid lengths.

@@jamesmcmorrow7292 vesper from Album looks insane, Lovemachine from Ryan Lovelace getting a ton of love and spotlight at the moment, OBE (standard dim + shorter epoxy) and the Not Quite Right (think this is what he's calling the twin mid length) are all on my shopping list. If only we could try or have 🤣them all....... Wish there was a proper demo offering next to the wave pool so we could try a specific board in all the different dims.....

Just checked. Looks good, seems to have some proper thought put into it

Ok, let’s make it happen.

Ha ha, I feel you. But we have wave pools now and we can be groms, even in our 40s!

@@wrules he’s a big deal, not sure he would want anything to do with a minnow like me 😂.

@@averagejoe6355 😂 always worth asking but failing that he still has spaces available in October

@@wrules you have a winning lottery ticket for me to buy a spot? 🤣

@@averagejoe6355 I wish! Four sessions, video analysis and more content for you and the viewers (me) may be a good investment 😂

This is the one. It wasn’t about using a surf skate, it was about the bloke showing a technique which many believed was incorrect. I didn’t post the video because there wasn’t a need to pile on, but in general, some people are good at substance / product and some good at marketing. I’ve met a few other coaches that reached out to the bloke to say the technique he was pushing was bad. Everyone has opinions but when Kelly Slater is commenting about the technique then perhaps the community should take notice. Experience and credibility is key for information.

Tomo OBE is a Cymmatic, about 40 litres. Also started using a shortboard which is about the same, maybe a litre less. Went up in length and volume to the mid length over the winter when in Morocco 45-50 litres. Then used the mid length a bit back at the pool before getting back on the shortboard. Still have the green Tomo board although it’s a bit beaten up to heavy use :)

Ha ha, steady, give me a chance

Ha ha, steady, give me a chance 😂

@@MISOLPH thank you sir, much appreciated. Just loving the surfing like the next person :)

Thanks for the comment, let me answer tomorrow as it late now

@@averagejoe6355 still waiting for answer 😂

Why thank you kindly sir! Want in on the Martin Dunn free coaching live stream?

Great idea, will do this to help with context. Let me answer about this vlogs waves tomorrow as it late now :)

This is exactly what snoopy advocates, he’s advising eyeing up down the line from take off and depending on what the wave shape is like and surfers preference is a “speed line” double pump can work. Will try to do the topic justice next time. Thanks for the shout and contribution !

Might even be more than 4 parts 😂

Thanks for the contribution. Just checked our RUclips video out for Rotterdam. Nice. If you're interested in having Martin Dunn have a look at your surfing let me know and will add you to the list.

SURE! thanks for the opportunity

Thanks mate! FYI, the pool is like any wave, it takes a bit of getting used to. Everyone (including pros) struggles in the first sessions. Just have to find the right take off spot then and know what options are available then you're be good. Don't give up on the pool, it's the gym for training. But if you live in Newquay you are going to be spoiled anyways!

@@averagejoe6355 cheers dude! I’ll have to give it a go next time and give it another chance. Get yourself down to Newquay some time dude I’d love to go for a paddle!

@@saulsjourney that would be sick, would love to do take you up on that, although please understand I'm a white belt in the ocean. What most people don't realise is that there are no short cuts for the experience in the ocean. I spent most of the winter taking my licks in the sea in Morocco (and loving it). Just don't expect to see any barrels or cutbacks from me in the sea! 🤣

@@saulsjourney I'd say cutting back on the steep part of the wave is important but of course not exactly in the pocket. Running out down the line will mean you're in the flats and have less drive to wrap around on the turn.

In snoopy we trust 😂

Wavepool have just built one of those wave ramps. 100% my skills are low and the initial shots are about getting going and up a hill, but out of interest why is the wiggle bad for your surfing,?

@@averagejoe6355its because the hip wiggle that works in surf skating doesn’t work in surfing. Pumping on a wave is about getting high on a wave, then pressing down to increase your speed forward, then getting high and repeating that. With the wiggle, you’re swiveling the board back and forth and doing a push/pull action between your front and back foot. This doesn’t work for a surfboard. Don’t worry about eliminating the wiggling completely though. It’s really the only way to start moving forward from a complete stop. But once you get going, make sure you mimic driving the board forward with feet and weight pushing through your legs and downward. With a surf skate, and even tacking on a regular skateboard you do this by compressing, turning slighting to the heel side, leaning forward on your toeside and pushing with your front foot and then following through by throwing your arms in the same direction and then pulling the board forward with your momentum. Then reseting your body by compressing again.

@@averagejoe6355 It will not let you build speed on water but your body can start to mimic the movement when surfing. Only an issue if this happens otherwise no issue as it works well for speed building on the skate. Check out J.O.B's tongue in cheek video clip

@@michaeljarosinski5595 wow, you’re rockstar, thanks for writing this reply 💪

very kind but sadly can't agree 🤣

Riding switch? WTF ?!?! That’s quite the flex, can even think how bad that would be for me on a surf skate 😢

Hahaha, you'd be surprised how quickly you'll learn! At least I was pleasantly surprised. Couple small sessions in my street (let's say 2 hours total) & it's going quite well. & I truly didn't believe it was possible the first time I tried it. My goofy footed stance was ingrained so hard. But quite quickly it did start working. I think it's just some brain wiring that needs to happen & you're good to go.

@@flowstatehandlethat’s still quite the flex! 💪

Thanks 🙏 super nice to read this, made my day :) The turns are getting better IMHO but so many levels to this game

🤣 no idea what that is even supposed to mean,, but it's up there with the best comments the vlog has had 🤣

Also I noticed that your front arm when surfing locked a couple of times preventing the twist on the cutback. You opened up well on that second wave but didn't go all the way to the foam. Really enjoy watching your progress and helping me a long my journey too!

Tanks for sharing this! This is the next stage for me to try according to many expert eyes, so thanks for noting. In on of the videos in the outro you kind of see me try this.....badly but it's a start!

@@MachucaPermies again, a very good eye, This is 1 of the 2 points Martin Dunn identified a few blogs back. Trying to keep the leading arm low at a 6 o''clock position and even telling myself some words to try and do this. There are so many small details and points to get right but one that is currently in focus is where to position the board relative to the body to set the rail. think it probably depends on how much speed you reach the top of the wave with, but to get on rail and move from surfing 'flat' it seems there is something to it. Thanks again for the comments, super cool and much appreciated :)

@@averagejoe6355 yeah for me too. I have this mindset on a FS cutback as to first position myself high on the wave then think twist and hold a beach ball, no matter if I feel off balance leaning away from the board. On the contrary it actually gets you into balance as the board tracks back underneath. Then just think Andy irons and hit the foam as hard as possible lol.

@@MachucaPermies that word you jsut use, "hold". I think I'm guilty of trying too hard at the start of the turn, instead of setting the rail., getting the rotation going and then driving through the turn.. The joys of trying things and failing in order to get progress :)

He is goofy. Happy to share, will drop if at the end of the next video as an Easter egg for you :)

@@HODItv Ahh man...i,m honoured..)

Great, I’m not on my own! 😂 We can trade frustrations :) Martin Dunn is good and his structure of teaching is great. I’m kind of struggling to pull it all together

Pop up off toes: ruclips.net/user/shortsG3t_SbT4_k8?si=tgLVyhraTGAF4nsn

sorry for the delay replying, mad busy! thanks for the share much appreciated! and the detail about shortboard popping up is noted!

ha ha, that's not going to be a cool video :)

😂 it will work both ways….

Engaging the rail needs proper explanation because I have the feeling it's a rabbit hole! Which I'm more than happy to go down :) Thanks so much for the input, really appreciate people like you sharing your thoughts and trying to help. Thankyou

Boom! its there, 1000+ RUclips subs, thanks everyone!

I think that goes hand in hand with leaning more into your turns. Your board needs to push back into your turn so that you don't just fall off. Getting the board up to the hips almost gets the deck of the board parallel to your body wich alows you to get the most amount of push back so you can really lay it down. Ofcours you also need speed to be able to go through these kind of body/board positions. In the thumbnail of the video video I think you actualy perform your best turn and you are kind of suprised and end up falling becaus you can't control the speed you get. So I would tell you to really exaggerate those movements and experiment with fully falling backwords and just pushing that turn. Worst case you fall, but you just need those glimps of exceleration and drive that make you go "that's it".

@@nelson9027 Surprised is probably spot on :) Exaggerating the movements is good advice. Next session coming soon, will try and thanks for all your input

Agreed. So how do you surf less flat and start getting a more engaged rail?

@@averagejoe6355 first of all you need to engage the turn by rolling the board, frontside you aply a lot of heel presure and try to flex the ankles. Once the board is rolling you need to learn to shift your center of mass over the rails of the board. Frontside it's like dropping your but on to your favorite sofa. This will drop the rail further into the water making it possible for you to push against the board so you can knife trough your turn and excelerate. You can also use your leading arm to to guide you. You need to imagine yourself falling backwards into your surf stance and placing your leading hand onto a stool next to your outside rail and then pivot around it.

Not yet but to be honest, not expecting any turns on next trip to the sea, just more basic wave catching work.

Thanks for the great comment and input! I’m clearly trying to figure it all out and there are loads of levers but the line Snoopy takes, a free links to get out in front, is something I’m going to try. Hearing him talk about speed and it impacting his choice of turn and how he approaches the wave was super cool. I think I need to get that rotation improved and get both arms going back up towards the white water. So much to do…..

1 foot pool puss...... 🤣 Literally the best comment ever.

It's quite the game trying to get more on rail, find the body positing and positioning on the wave, let alone the timing to put it all together! Great comments about locked torso and lower body. I'm on this and this is why video is so good because to me they feel separated but clearly they are not! thanks for the share

If only it was that simple! 😂 feels like so much going on! Loving the leading arm outside the board rail suggestion. Appreciate it’s all about the torso rotation but all these suggestions that might help things click are brilliant. Super cool. Thank you 🙏

Amazing post? Apart from the board comment 😂 must be an Aussie 😂 Joking aside, the points about touching the water and looking back more… gold

Gold! Fat finger typing! 😂

No problem, more than welcome

Thanks for the kind words. The never ending journey but but love it! .

That’s cracking advice and if you look carefully I’m trying to do this. I don’t always remember but I’m trying! Thanks for sharing 💪

It’s a good point. If you want to be really dig into this then IMHO it starts even further back from the takeoff because I’m blowing a lot of time and speed, not making the drop efficiently. Then there is the discussion about the line to take and which location I’m actually paddling in…. But fundamentally it’s about speed, how much I have to start with and then what that opens up on the wave. So great point about seeing I don’t have enough speed for turn 1, I totally agree with this

I agree it's probably the combination of take off and first bottom turn that will (in most cases) define how you will surf the wave.

It’s the speed I lose from the start which is annoying. All good, all part of improving and I’m not overly negative, just a realist who totally agrees with your observation. More speed / energy to do what you want and reach the top of the wave…. And the rabbit hole of how you achieve this. Should get someone good to share their thoughts on bottom turns / where to do them / how different waves impact them / deep vs shallow ones / when to use them…. Think you’ve touched on a cool topic

Kale Brock has a pretty good video about that topic "The most important turn in surfing"

@@paulsamson2481will check it out, always keen to hear different opinions. Martin Dunn has some great stuff on the topic too. Quite the subject to get into

Thanks for sharing your thoughts. The great thing about surfing, always more details to incorporate and work on.

@@73jayzee one that clearly works! 😂

By the looks of it, seems to be a JS Xero Fusion Hyfy3 👀

@@inFAMOUSBeatsGFx I can ask him

@@darrenfinch7308 thanks for the comment and support! Welcome :)