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Need more content from Shamil. We urgently need his views on Michael Levins work and its connection to the multi-part self, and the dialectic into dialogos practices as understood by Vervaeke and Grimes. Specifically, how inner justice and baysean brain are related. Noone else can translate this from both perspecives. Connections between communication of micro agents as a part of an emergent whole. He covered FEP and Bates so well, Would be amazing to see bridges to Levins 6 ODEs for emergent intelligence - from a spiritual viewpoint and any related practices.

This is literally also the song "All for the Best" from Godspell! 😁 Nietzsche meets Broadway!

This is so wonderful. So many things fell into place listening to this. Keep doing what you’re doing. I truly believe bridging the gap between spirituality and science is immensely helpful. Simply by knowing what’s happening behind the scenes, downweighs our priors.

Absolutely @Shamil. We are the creators of our reality therefore we must choose our thoughts carefully 💛 So great to celebrate Flourishing Day with you in Oxford on my birthday /Bonfire Night. 🔥

Wooow, what a journey!, from fundamental neuroscience asymptotically approaching the Absolute through so beautiful articulation. Thank you!

Great talk, thanks for uploading. If I understand you right, though, this isn't really meant to address the *origin* of consciousness, just how it works once it exists?

Can't wait to listen :)

Exciting!

Looking forward to it!

I didn't expect the amazingly accessible overview of machine learning. Thanks for sharing this excellent work.

Yes,... remember, there is always a saber-tooth tiger circling the cave.(sometimes more then one) Beware of the tiger.🐅🐅🐅

Thanks, a very interesting talk. Shamil explains his ideas of a Bayesian Brain from his own scientific worldview. Thus we might expect that we are born with inherited filters developed over many thousands of human generations. A baby clearly has some bootstrap model of reality and the Bayesian Brain certainly doesn’t need language when it starts up. I’d say the first model we must have (according to a scientific worldview) is one of self existence! The main thing that has changed during the thousands of generations is the use, storage and transmission of language, enabling seperate brains to share their varied experiences and ideas. No doubt AI will vastly accelerate this process!

I tried to find introductory videos, interviews and articles about FEP, but they were so general and vague..., or in other cases overly technical. This is the first time that I start to understand something and FEP start to make sense to me. Thanks a lot!

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57:01 great point about how human thought processes can often be suboptimal and not arrive at conclusions that would be predicted by Bayesian computation if we assume correct priors. 1:00:57 meditation and psychedelics lessen the contribution of the more general models/priors in the hierarchy

35:32 families of meditation

Thank you for these lectures. Beautiful clarity. And synthesizing all of my autodidactic obsessions with academic rigour. (And thank you for supporting Ruben’s work. You two will come up with something extraordinary I have no doubt) 🙏🏽❤️

Thanks for your insights and enthusiasm Shamil. Coming from Rob Burbea’s teachings, I would love to hear you have another conversation with Michael Taft. I would also be very interested to hear a conversation between yourself and Joscha Bach, the artificial intelligence researcher. Hope you are well

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The body is the fist prior, but when you ger paralyzed by verborragic ontological misunderstandings, you will be eaten by the tiger.

Bravo!

Shamil you are one of the most interesting thinkers and presenters alive today. These lectures are very precious. Please continue your research and teaching!

I'm at the beggining it's really interestig ! Putting chapters to this video can be really usefull Thanks !

Wonderful. Thank you, Shamil Chandaria!

So, I take it you guys are doing some epistemologically subtle role out? Because we’re obviously living in something that is a kind of course grained VR representation of far more complex quantum phenomena. When this hit me, a few weeks ago, it was a “spiritual awakening” aka a disruptive paradigm shift from the external, objective, mind independent reality I believed I was in. It made me have a bit of a bad trip for 5-10 mins before I managed to construct a new framework along these lines. Anil seems to be gently seeding the zeitgeist? And Friston’s framework is so dense that it obfuscates the inevitable logical epistemological conclusions Fascinating stuff, but it has staggering implications for every aspect of science. What does it mean for cosmology and astrophysics if we’re studying a kind of low resolution interface that is obsessed with symmetry and best hypotheses? We’re not studying an external 3D structure

Great talk - what lab at Cambridge was this given?

1:25:36 got another one you might like: "the mystic is anyone who is willing to experience purgatory in this life" - Shinzen Young

31:28 lol timing

I think a lot of this starts to make sense if you look at it from the vantage point suggested by Richard Dawkins : Biological bodies may well be the life support systems of genomes and the entire sensory/memory/cognitive apparatus may well be there as an emergent property of the biological envelope of the genome. The need to replicate, which is the root intent of the living body and the foundational thing that distinguishes a living organism from a computer simulation, is very much that of the genome. This will-to-live is almost certainly consubstantial with the structure itself of the genome, which itself is an emergent natural phenomenon. Biological societies and by extension, cultures, are themselves projections of this root intent at genomic perpetuation. I see the AI field split into scientists on one side, and engineers (and their banker friends) on the other side. Scientists are actually looking for the genealogy of cognitive and intelligent processes ; the computational aspect is merely an experimental approach to test assumptions. But in the end, the goal of scientists like you is to understand how consciousness and intelligence form ex nihilo. In contrast engineers and plutocrats are there to make money ; their wares are aimed at producing tools that can be leveraged at an industrial scale and from which profits can be made. They will never achieve anything more than a simulation, because that's all software can do. And software is what will animate androids anyway. So it will remain eternally a simulation, even when they manage to simulate the characteristics of consciousness, it will be simulated consciousness. In contrast, what you are doing is paving the way for real synthetic intelligent agents to be made : Some time in the distant future scientists will understand how to create genomic/biological replicants that are intelligent, and really intelligent because at their core they are not a simulation and they are driven by the will to live. Without this will, true intelligence is not possible.

This was such an incredible talk. I loved the intertwining of aspects such as spirituality, artificial intelligence, math, philosophy, psychology and psychedelics. I’m speechless. Bravo!

You need to post more and go deeper.

Such a fascinating talk, thank you very very much 🙏👍

Is there anywhere to download this deck??? Would love to have it!!

Love this! the frontier of science and spirituality

Very hyped to saw that you upload this Shamil, thank you for your work and contribution. Can't wait to watch this! Metta! ❤

Thank you for this. I have been following your work and it is so refreshing. Would love to see/hear you do this presentation taking all the time you want. And also, your graphics are incredibly helpful at visualizing difficult concepts, esp. the basin attractors. Cheers

Highly enjoyed this video, I will be sharing this with quite a few friends who will benefit!

The most interesting research in the world IMO.

First 🎉

the rabbit hole of HHMM model leads me to markov blanket - > active inference - > free energy and now to this amazing tutorial

To extend on your point, if there's no external bad or good than can you really describe the internal sensations of clinging or aversion as bad and good? Really thry are mechanisms of survival that can be bypassed

I'd love to see this material divorced from the Aristotelean, Kantian and Cartesian baggage. Never going to happen, but I'd love to see it.

Thanks for the video this was one of the best guides on free energy I’ve seen.

So much great stuff here. But I have a big question about a tiny point - the thumbnail experiment (ruclips.net/video/Eg3cQXf4zSE/видео.html) suggests "look at your thumbnail, and your thumbnail is about all you can see directly and in colour. The rest is in back and white, in a real mess". Now I have tried this and my peripheral vision is definitely in colour. I wonder how many of us have monochrome v. colour peripheral vision - am I unusual, or is Shamil (who I'm sure will have tried it himself) unusual?

The other thing is that it's only in diseases with enormous destruction of neurological pathways or processes (severe delirium, severe dementia, epilepsy) where perceptions change, for the rest of us even suffering with severe mental health issues, perceptual inter-rater variability is incredibly low- it exists, but it's still surprisingly low. That makes me feel there's more to "reality" than we are now giving it credit for.

I actually don't think that being aware of top down phenomena helps that much. Reconstruct what?

man this needs more views

The “identity” is not between consciousness and states in the brain but between consciousness and a cause/effect structure and it’s intrinsic geometry. This is important because cause/effect structures (quales) can, at least sometimes, be realized by a plurality of mechanisms or by (at least sometimes) by different states within one mechanism.

Excellent lecture!

The “subterrenean passage” that, through ourselves, we have contact with reality is yet another example of reifying awareness, that you warranted against just beforehand.