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It’s a fume extractor-I didn’t have a fan at the time so I was using the fume extractor to help cool my metal so the temperature would land on the color I hoped for.

This video doesn’t have any narration, just a short visual demonstration of the process.

Thanks Suzanne!

Hi! The pumice pan and acetylene torch tip and hose are from Rio grande Jewelry Supply.

Depends on what you mean by thicker copper? As long as you can bring the temperature up successfully you should technically be able to do it I think. This was 18 gauge copper and I’ve done bigger 16 gauge copper pieces using an acetylene torch too. There are other flame artists that use oxy/acetylene setups on much larger pieces of copper as well but I’m unsure of the thickness they may have been using. ruclips.net/user/shortsvgLKuNepScY?feature=share

Thank you! I definitely had to practice first.

Thank you, I do seal it afterward. I’ve used Rustoleum gloss and Colorloc but am going to try UV Resin next to see what works best.

Sweet, thanks so much. Seems to be the thing to do now. Good luck! I am going to try that myself!

@@keelygreen6455 Good luck to you too!

I use Pretotecta Clear

​@@desertmoonshinejewelry2020 uv resin for sure

Absolutely, that works too!

I’ve tried but brass has less copper content and just doesn’t get the same oxidization colors that 100% copper can get.

Sorry for the late reply-I’ve been using 18 gauge copper and that seems to get some good results. I haven’t tried oxy acetylene setups and wonder if the flame would be too hot in places for the copper to be heated gradually but it’s worth a try. A lot of people use thin copper because it’s faster and has less weight for wall hangings and earrings.

The metal needs to be either sprayed or dipped with a sealant in order to keep the colored oxidization intact.

How’d it go?!

Thank you!

Hola. No es sobre cerámica, solamente cobre, y los gases son oxígeno y acetileno.

Hi there, thank you so much! I think the petition has concluded. We were successful in getting to board to alter their proposal from getting rid of the classes entirely to just getting rid of the ability to earn a certificate of achievement from them. We were able to keep the classes as Fine Arts electives!

@@desertmoonshinejewelry2020 That's wonderful! I'm happy to hear it, ty for sharing! And Congratulations to all of you!! :)

Right. So this is very disappointing if the proposal to Sunset the program goes through. Please sign the petition. The next subcommittee meeting for the Board is April 27th to discuss their decisions, and the final vote takes places May 10th.

I’m using the hose for both actually since I don’t have a little desk top fan yet. And you are correct, it will continue to oxidize unless it is sealed.

That’s a really great question Beth! I don’t personally have experience working with Copper Powder so I couldn’t tell you. All copper will have a similar reaction to heat and oxidization though.

Totally understand how frustrating it is for finished pieces to not contain the same amount of color as you intended…I’ve been sealing and informing customers of the before and after-that the sealant acts as a UV filter like glass-so their pieces may be a little less blue.

Are you saying that spray painting copper with a clear-coat or even using clear nail polish will removed, or at least fade, a colored patina on copper?

@@desertmoonshinejewelry2020 Maybe try sealing it with carnauba wax by lightly heating the piece up and applying the wax layer? I'm not sure if it will work here with copper, but i've seen this method used to seal damascus steel art pieces and etched blades so that the colour and contrast remain. Maybe worth a shot?

@@lourias any sealant seems to dull some of the blues a bit -it’s a widespread struggle for flame painters trying to find a way to preserve the brightness of their copper’s colors.

@@jacksonmcready3238 worth a try but I have a feeling heating it will alter the colors that have just been oxidized onto the piece or buffing the wax in any way may mess with the layer of oxidization. Someone also suggested nano ceramic plating so I’m researching that too. Thank you for your input!

Hi Pam, I ended up coating it in two layers of Rustoleum spray sealant and it kept most of its color. It does lose some color with the sealant but not all of it.

It certainly is a cool process, I love it!

Wonderful! Have fun making the hoops-she will love them!

Yes, copper goes through a spectrum as it reaches various degrees. So I aim to heat it to a point just before the color I’m looking for so the copper temp “arrives” at that color if that makes any sense.

@@desertmoonshinejewelry2020 Interesting... im curious, is it possible for electroplated copper to be flame painted?

@@akkad7514 that’s a very good question. I would imagine that it would heat differently depending on the metal type beneath the electroplating, or would damage any organic material beneath the copper. Doesn’t hurt to do some research though!

❤❤❤ such a beautiful hue of blue, what temperature were you at to avhieve this please?

As far as I know, many flame painters use oxy/propane because it burns cleaner, but acetylene is what I have available to me at the moment. You’d want to avoid soot buildup.

any torch will do, size of flame matters though for how small you want detail.

Mine keeps turning grey. What I’m I doing wrong. Got 2 different torches. I’m messing up all my cooper 😭

Hi Padre! Yes, it's important to use a spray seal or lacquer to preserve this moment in time of the oxidization before the heat patina is rubbed off or just fades from oxidization over time. It's important to note that a sealant will alter the colors due to light interference, but you can still retain a lot of the color and contrast.

Hi! For this one, I just used an acetylene torch with a Smith torch tip #1 to do the initial oxidization, and then a smaller size #00 for the drawing and heat patina coloring.

Of course!

Thanks! And yes, it’s a fume extractor since I didn’t have a fan. It definitely helps to have something you can cool the copper with when it reaches the temp you are hoping for.

@@desertmoonshinejewelry2020 so it works as exhaust, ain't it? 😀 Tia! You make such awesome things!