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No way he spent 20 years studying Rumi. If he spend 1/2 year dedicated he would sound like he knows what he is talking about. It’s so dry and truly deadens the beauty and meaning of Rumi. For him to claim and “this” is what Rumi means is overly optimistic of his level of knowledge about Rumi. He completely mis explained the part about who is coaxing Rumi to talk about LOVE wrong! If you haven’t tread the path please don’t give yourself the position to translate and demean such an enormous work while taking quotes of previous authors out of context to show that they, who truly spend decades studying Rumi, as wrong. If you truly did this with dedication and understood it, you probably would have never made this PowerPoint presentation to speak about him, let alone translate a great body of his work. People who fluently speak the language, know the history and have historical reference to ideas Rumi refers to, and follow his path and are rightful scholars s while being objective, still do not claim to know what Rumi meant. To write a book and confuse readers about such profound Truth is a disservice to seekers of Truth.

F a l u n D a f a (or F a l u n G o n g) is a spiritual cultivation practice for mind and body that is widely spreading in the world, it is based on the principles of the Universe: 真 Truthfulness 善 Compassion 忍 Forbearance It includes gentle exercises and meditation. It helped millions of people to regain health, peace of mind and obtain spiritual fulfillment. Since 1999 this peaceful practice has been brutally persecuted by the CCP (Chinese communist party) in Mainland China. More than 100 million people around the world practice Falun Gong. "F a l u n D a f a is Good" and "Truth, Compassion, Forbearance is Good".

I will make a couple of videos on these topics:- John 3v7-15:- Honest to God Nicodemus, a moral teacher (Below) was told Saints from Above know what they speak. ruclips.net/video/byzVYAA6-2Q/видео.html I broke my neck falling backwards while climbing steps. A nasty fall but our Father has saved me from the serious damage. Physically I am fine and strong as I was before but I have to wear this Neck Collar for 8 weeks. I fell on 17/04/2022. Any advice from a medical team? Here is the medical report on discharge. www.gnosticgospel.co.uk/neck22.pdf PAVANN (Holy spirit is like the wind and it is the Time for that - Nicodemus) ARANBHH SATGUR MATT WAILA (Go by your “innerman”, the Christ); SHABD GURU (His Word vis your Teacher), SURATT DHUNN CHAELA )(A man of holy spirit is the Disciple of His Word and not of any man on earth like Pope). THE BIBLE AND QURAN THUMPERS, DEAD IN LETTERS HATE AND KILL EACH OTHER WHILST THE LIVING IN HOLY SPIRIT, COMMON SENSE, SING THE PRAISES OF OUR “SUPERNATURAL FATHER ELOHIM, ALLAH, PARBRAHM, ETC. - JUST THE OPPOSITE. INSHALLAH ISLAM IS SHARIAH-FREE WHILST THE INSHMULLAH ISLAM OF SATAN IS FULL OF SHARIAH. Holy Gospel of our Supernatural Father Elohim, Allah, Parbrahm, etc., delivered by the First Anointed Christ, which in Punjabi we call Satguru Jesus of the highest living God Elohim that dwells in His Most Beautiful Temple of God, our physical body created not by the human hands but by the demiurge Potter, the Lord of the Nature Yahweh, Brahma, Khudah, etc. represented by Angel Prophet Elijah (My god is Yahweh) and it is called Harmandir or “Emmanuel” according to Saint John 3,7b-15. Jesus said to the once-born honest son of Yahweh Nicodemus: “'You must be born from above, the Celestial world of Sadhus where your “soul” counts and you have One Supernatural Father Elohim, Allah, Parbrahm, etc., the World of Melchidek and not the tribal world of flesh where “ego”, enemy of the holy spirit is boosted by the Rabbis.' The wind, grace of Elohim, Allah, Parbrahm, etc. called “Pavan Aranbh” blows where it wills, and you can hear the sound it makes as Jesus and Apostles made in the Preaching of the Gospel, but you do not know where it comes from or where it goes; so it is with everyone who is born of the Spirit." Holy Spirit makes sounds in our hearts when you think logically if you are not drunk with the “Old Wine” of the dead Letters. That is why the Good News of the Arrival of Jesus was broken to the illiterate Shepherds, New Skins capable of holding the New Wine and not to the killer Jerusalem Priests full of “Ego” of their degrees as today, these University theologians are, the super donkeys carrying the Holy Books. They see or read the Scriptures but they do not perceive the Tap Root, the Oral Torah of these Scriptures that Jesus came to deliver but their “Ego” became a stumbling block. Nicodemus answered and said to him, "How can this happen?" Jesus answered and said to him, "You are the teacher of Israel, a moral teacher and you do not understand this for the lack of the Oral Torah? Amen, amen, I say to you, we from Above speak of what we know logically and we testify through the logical reasoning to what we have seen, but you people do not accept our testimony because it is not written in the dead letters. If I tell you about earthly things and you do not believe, how will you believe if I tell you about heavenly things? That is, First know what you see with your two naked eyes, then you will be capable of perceiving “His Word” that cannot be written down in ink on paper. No one has gone up to heaven except the one who has come down from heaven, the Son of Man. Or unless you are born of water, you cannot be born of Spirit. And just as Moses lifted up the serpent, the rift among the sons of Abraham, Ideal Adam, Sarah as Eve and Yahweh gave them the Promised Land as the Garden of Eden by creating “Eros” in the desert, so must the Son of Man be lifted up by creating “Agape” on One Father Elohim, Allah, Parbrahm, etc. on an international basis, so that everyone who believes in Him, our Supernatural Father of our “souls” may have eternal life as the Sons of Elohim Saints have. Lazarus was the First Fruit of Resurrection." Saint John 3,31-36. The one who comes from above the heaven, the Celestial World of our Supernatural Father is Above all. The one who is of the earth is earthly and speaks of earthly things that he can see such as the Scriptures. But the one who comes from Above heaven is above all. Typical example is Lazarus, the First Fruit of Resurrection and He talked of things Above heaven. He testifies to what he has seen sitting in the Lap of Abraham and heard, but no one accepts his testimony because it is not written in the Scriptures. Whoever twice-born does accept his testimony certifies that God is trustworthy. For the one whom God sent speaks the words of God. He does not ration his gift of the Spirit. The Father loves the Son and has given everything over to him. Whoever believes, Lazarus, in the Son has eternal life, but whoever disobeys, Judas Iscariot, a Thief, the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God remains upon him. The typical example of these Blasphemers are Tony Blair and Bush Saddam Hussain has WMD but none were found. Now, this Udege tribal son of Man Putin and co will punish the USA and its allies according to their parts taken in the killing of innocent Saddam Hussain, Gaddafi and others. Their bombs created refugees that these countries rejected but accepted of Ukraine because its President is the Jewish son of Satan as the American Jews rich in Mammon and media are.

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Reminds me of the work of Arthur M. Young. another inventor who was also a metaphysician seeking original causes and transcendent mechanisms.

Thank you. Loved this lecture. Rumi is in a league of his own. His cup offers us quatam leaps of awareness and insight.

Thak you very much. This lecture is amazing. Not only I learned a lot about this great poet of all times , it led me to deeply think about so many things that I never thought about heir importance.

After the fall of Fatimid empire Ismaili imam were in taqia or went into hiding. Rumi found about shams that he was imam of the time and he found that he reached his goal to reach imam of the time.

Interesting talk. Some leaves much to be desired, but alot of what was said, rang true on a gut level.

beautiful lecture

thank you,,I loveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Rumi

Absolutely brilliant

Rumi was Very firm Believer he advise to pray Pary at Night And Fasting The west Dont knoe How much love he had for prophet Muhammad PBUH u guys Respect Him But U call muslim terrorists Kill People in the name peace it i through The Stream Of Prophet mostafa PBUH Rumi Collects his jewels of wisdom and Knowledge but u will never u think U know rumi but u know nothing

Is there complete translation of the Divan of Shams in English? I could not find one....

This was a beautiful lecture.

it is a great blessing to me to have a chance to know you in my life . I'm so thankful from god and universe and from you. I love you with all my heart, dear Master. 💙

Interesting idea. Thanks for writing the paper too.

Thank you 😊

All authentic Sufi poetry expresses three levels of understanding. The last and essential is the hidden, the esoteric. Also, they had to hide their true mystical message from the religious authorities or suffer the martyrdom of al-Hallaj. This guy is full of commonplace facts about Rumi's poetry that anyone with ears to hear already know. Far from illuminating the genius and beauty of Rumi's poetry, he deadens Rumi's message with his Western (materialistic) pedagogy. Only in intoxication with love for the Beloved can you reach even a glimmer of what Rumi is trying to transmit. The message only reaches the initiated. Not academics like this man. Rumi only began to achieve greatness after his renunciation of all his position as iman, and his scholarly achievements and honors to experience and transmit the oneness with God he achieved. This cat needs to lighten up, smoke some herb, and get drunk now and then. Rumi can only be understood experientially, not academically. Rumi would say this scholar is wasting his life burrowing in dusty tomes for facts while the revelation within spiritual intoxication escapes him.

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The silence between the words.

Thank you for making your interpretations of some of Rumi's writings available to the rest of us. His poetry, as interpreted by you, is a guiding light in the dark, showing us what we have in common, as opposed to arguing about what we don't agree on, our petty differences. I wanted to give my neighbor, who is a fanatic christian, your book "The hidden teachings of Rumi", but he refuses to even accept it ... because it is not christian. I wanted to give it to him, because I love him. But if it is not in the bible, or written by a devout christian, he refuses to read it.

Thank you so much <3 from a seeker

Once on the inner planes Paul was showing me the difference between existence and essence.Holding a rubber band in a relaxed position he said “This is its existence.” Then he stretched his fingers and said, “This is its essence.” For those who can’t help but hold existence to account, they miss the essence those who were willing to be stretched are so grateful for.

Great lecture. Very insightful and articulate of particularly spiritual matters.

I have read all of Dougs books going back to 2007. For me, I consider him an enlightened person, although I would think he would not agree with me. But that is part of his beauty. His voice has given me a greater understanding of my possibilities. I really hope we have many more years of his writings, and more recently his talks. A very sincere, Thanks !

It is fantastic.

Great book !

Thanks for posting