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In most ways it is. But Lightroom does still arguably have some advantages over it, such as with panorama support.

@ Oh yes, but I use ptgui for panorama.

Yeah, good software!

It just doesn't start? Did you download the ARM64 version? I am running it on my Macbook Air M1 just fine.

Nice! Spend less time on RUclips and the internet! One hour in the field is more precious than a thousand online.

Yes, indeed. I agree. But what did you mean when you said "What if in Nature exist pattern Ohm's law"??

@@JasonPolakPhotography I try solve Navier-Stokes equation which one condition is Bernoulli law of hydrodynamics and derived formula for shear friction inside channel was very similar to Ohms law equation for fluid dynamics. Then I presented my solution to academia they discarded because it not had Reynolds number criteria of laminar and turbulent flow, which is bread-and-butter of computer simulation in fluid dynamics :) Of course my solution can be wrong. And Nature (God) moves in mysterious ways. But exist very big chance that I am right, and fractal Nature of reality is very common. Kinetic energy equation for electrons, protons, atoms, mosquito or freight rain is the same. Same electron flow on wire or fluid flow inside channel or pipe is also governed by same fundamental laws of Nature.

The good thing about darktable is that it's different. I'm glad darktable is not like Lightroom. Actually, I started on darktable and when I tried Lightroom, I found the interface confusing because it wasn't what I used first. I prefer modules, and would hate for the interface to become like LR. There's already Lightroom for that. Maybe people like you would like it more, but many users would like it less. For me, the modules approach is more intuitive, and the advanced control given by having both Sigmoid and Filmic can become part of a workflow once you use them and you get more fine-grained control. Personally, I hate the LR interface. Luckily, DT doesn't need to compete with LR. It's not a commercial product whose goal is to compete with LR in an economic sense. Thank goodness.

You are welcome!

Seems like another advantage. Though OpenCL is enabled on my darktable and export still seems rather slow, and not much faster than RT. But I have an Apple Silicon chip so that doesn't really qualify as an external GPU I guess.

Cool. It's an interesting species indeed. Glad you could see it!

I am a Luddite and proud of it. Lots of mathematics is still good, but the mechanizing forces are taking it over.

@JasonPolakPhotography Potentially, at some point, it will truly destroy math as a cult. The ability to design mathematical derivations will become useless because AI will perform them faster and better. You simply wouldn’t be able to compete; it would be like talking to a god who provides proofs. And you wouldn’t be able to justify the existence of all mathematical jobs, unlike, for example, the existence of chess championships, because it is neither fun nor a game. But are you sure that this cult is good? It has driven so many people insane. Some of them cannot speak normally. Some wander around in dirty, damaged clothes, smelly, with greasy hair, shouting at people and hitting walls. Others suggest deleting all AI to preserve something so nasty as math or society. It is cruel of you to suggest such things.

That's an interesting take, I won't lie. However, in my opinion, AI will certainly doom society and the ecosystem as well. So, allowing math to make a few people crazy is a small price to pay for saving the biosphere...besides, I wouldn't say math is a cult. As much as I have my problems with mathematics, I really don't think calling it a cult makes any sense, especially since it's so hard to get into...

@JasonPolakPhotography Many ancient cults required a very complicated and dangerous initiation ritual. Memorization of tons of texts and a lot of studying, emasculation, some shit like jumping off a high tower with a rope tied to your leg to show that you are brave. Say, something like research on sheafes and cohomologies, in my experience, is more complicated than studying the Talmud. The effect of mathematics on your sexual life is much more radical than emasculation. And 100% of mathematicians think that their formulae are the most important thing in the world and that everything else doesn't deserve any attention. Of course, very often mathematicians believe in God, but they don't see the difference between God and formulae. Since mathematicians are not organized, it is not a sect, so the term cult describes mathematics very well.

Nice! Darktable is amazing and the developers are heroes for making it so good despite pretty much no monetary compensation!

You are right! And it is a tough minefield to venture into because the elite will use every mechanism at thier disposal to prevent a fair and equitable world. The vagueness you mention needs to be transformed into unequivocal fortitude!

@JasonPolakPhotography I applaud your conviction and ask only that you set aside time each day to discover how craftsmen can be alienated from their trade through thr utility of money, and the model of the university has done the same to students and academia. To paraphrase Adam Smith, money is the capability to coordinate the labors of man. So when a problem of mathematics is treated as if to have a terminal finite answer, rather than an opportunity to explore contrasts in natural patterns, what is machine learning doing, particularly in holding the analogy of a worker to his labor?

I absolutely agree with your proposal. That is an interesting point of view as well. Money indeed makes abstract components of labor so they become more amenable to the integration in the machine. It's a topic that deserves much attention and I will keep it in mind.

I hadn't heard of Wendell Berry but he sounds like an interesting fellow.

You have to press one of the Fn buttons in manual mode. In shutter priority, the wheel does it.

Thank you, Christian. I appreciate it. I do believe the human element is the most important in our intellectual endeavors, not just the final product!

I'm very glad you liked it. Thank you for the subscription -- I wouldn't be able to keep this channel going without subscribers like you.

Well, one of my goals is to encourage people to rebel against AI, and hopefully one day take it down. A lost cause perhaps, but not guaranteed..

explaining absurdism means you need to reread the literature

> So what if machines figure out truths more efficiently/productively than humans? One can still pursue math without said machine. Of course one can, and I still enjoy math. But the presence of the machine irrevocably alters the overal society of mathematics research, which I think is much more enjoyable without the obsession for mathematical automating. > If machines can make movies/pictures/paintings does that take away from the joy a human gets when he/she paints or creates something by his/herself?? No, but it does create a new environment where the quality of the experience of SHARING work decreases. Art is about two things: creation AND sharing. The machine signficantly disrupts the SHARING aspect and conditions humans into a more machine-like state which reduces their capacity to appreciate human-made works. It's just a matter of human instinct; people can't help it. > If an AI can beat all humans at chess do humans still stop enjoying chess? In some way, yes to some extent. It does remove some of the magic and even the top Go player Lee Sedol was DISCOURAGED by the presence of AlphaGo. And machines do also DECREASE the enjoyment that many have in chess because it makes the sport too mechanical. > So why worry if the search for the truth is automated? One can take the less productive road of searching for the truth by themselves for the fun and joy of it! It is NOT just about the personal journey. That is where you are mistaken. Part of the JOY for the search for truth is that the source of creativity is humans. Machines in general make it more MECHANICAL on the societal level and that is disgusting and contemptible. One of the reasons I left mathematics because the search was becoming more MECHANICAL. Of course, I CAN enjoy math without the community but if the community did NOT have AI/machines to do the work, I think it would have been a much more enjoyable community to join. Even Bobby Fischer would agree with that when it comes to chess. > Is the destination (i.e. truth) important or the journey to the truth? Some people will prefer the destination whule other the journey. The machine changes the societal emphasis to the DESTINATION. It doesn't matter what people prefer. People in general don't know what is good for them because they have been conditioned by the machine to be automatons. > Pursuing one doesn't make the other meaningless. Pursuing machine-generated truth does condition humans to cease caring about the journey, and that's exactly my point. They become cogs.

Humans are a creative species by nature and of course can keep creating for pleasure. But what about the millions of people that make a living at being creative? Their jobs will eventually disappear--it's already happening.

Happy you enjoyed the joke! You're welcome.

Not in terms of modules, but the user interface had many small improvements and I think that's just as improtant as new modules, don't you?

B.Sc. Honors Math, University of Ottawa. M.Sc. Pure Mathematics, McGill University. PhD Pure Mathematics, McGill University.

Thank you for the encouragement!

You need darktable-5.0.0-x86_64.dmg. But I am not sure if your MacOS version is supported any more. You'll have to try.

Nice! Yeah, I live in Brazil. Would love to visit India though! Have you eaten the jackfruit?

@@JasonPolakPhotography Yes, it starts ripening after May. Because you spoke English so well, I thought you were from either U.S. or U.K. !

Oh! Well, I'm not Brazilian. Portuguese is my second language. I'm actually Canadian!

You're welllllllllcome.

Yes, your last statement is prescient. It is the technology itself that will benefit. But the richest humans may also, in the long-run anyway. The short-term idea is to gather as much wealth (i.e. resources) as possible until the collapse of the economy, at which point it is very likely that the technology will be so advanced that a few rich will have control over the entire supply chain to make their own stuff for free. Then they will either keep other people alive for manual labor (food) and jobs that can't be done by AI or kill us. Obviously, that's simplistic but a rough sketch of what may happen, assuming AI + robots can really be made to do 90% of jobs as you posited.

Well, to be fair, this is very FAR from emulating in-camera jpegs. It is more about matching contrast and saturation to give a basic starting point. Most other Raw editors already go further than this as a starting point anyway, and even absolutely speaking, after looking at it, it's a fairly basic starting point.

@@JasonPolakPhotography Fair comment.

It's the first thing many newcomers to darktable ask for. People (me included) explained why its absence from darktable was not a bad thing, but they still asked. To be fair it could give people, particularly newcomers, a starting point for their image editing. If they take it as their end point though they are missing out on a lot and really making it pointless to use darktable and RAW.

I'm glad you found it informative.

You're welcome!

Nice! So, song sparrow or house sparrow?

@JasonPolakPhotography i have both coming to my yard in north texas

Haha! Thanks for the encouragement. It's always nice to see your comments.

Yeah, unfortunately not! Panorama with sensible alignment would be AWESOME. I have to use a separate program and export a TIFF now. Would be GREAT for darktable to get such a feature.

Thank you so much. I hate wasting viewers' time with ramblings.

Should come soon! Camera support is a little slow sometimes but it's worth the wait...

In many cases, it CAN, and is superior. But it doesn't have any AI subject recognition, thank god.

@@JasonPolakPhotography well for some of us, that's a very helpful tool. As a bird photographer, it's really nice to be able to select the bird quickly and easily, and then make minor adjustments to the AI mask selection.

If you learn parametric masks, a lot of the time you can make a similar selection in a couple seconds. Not as fast as one click AI though. But then again, the parametric selection process is somewhat informative itself, as it can teach you about the relative colors and shades in your photo. And if you like Lightroom so much, just wondering why you even made your comment in the first place? Just to dismiss darktable?

Darktable is free tho

You are welcome! Hope you like 5.0!

There is also a skin tone LUT that could be useful. I'd say with 2-3 jpegs you could probably get pretty close in making a custom preset for Sony.

@@JasonPolakPhotographyI’ll have to check it out. Tonight, I’m using the camera presets with my old fujifilm X30 and the results are close to the in camera jpegs, but a better starting point since I have more to work with.

yeah! May they suffer in the fires of bankruptcy!

Basically what im saying is we as a society will need to get our meaning and purpose from elsewhere other than work

(1) Relationships are more meaningful when we actually need each other. (2) The people that are balanced enough to find their own meaning in life is a minority compared to the majority that need to feel useful from a traditional pathway. (3) In a society with UBI, what sort of pursuit (whether work or otherwise) will be meaningful if the entire world must keep AI functioning in order to keep such a society functioning? That's a world with highly restricted freedom and one that is unsustainable because all that technology still requires mining and habitat destruction to expand. And it WILL expand because it won't be a static system. Technophiles and the rich will want to expand the capabilities of AI continually to be even more immersive and extractive.

To your other comment: yes, but for the majority, that will not be possible because human beings are intuitive and instinctive creatures that cannot arbitrary modify their source of meaning when it is not about providing for themselves (in general, there are freak exceptions).

@@JasonPolakPhotography Thanks for your response, thats an interesting take. Not totally sure what you mean by restricted freedom, I guess it depends on how things are after UBI. Im guessing by then we'll figure out better energy practices and the cost will go down, not too sure about the environment problem.

Restricted freedom here means that we can only move within the narrow confines of technology. Chances are with UBI you will need to be registered with some kind of program, lots of nature will be eradicated so you will need to move within artificial environments, the government will severely restrict people's movements as they do today, etc. We will figure out better energy practices but that will be balanced by energy use going UP, AI will be analyzing all your data and movements all the time, etc. Technology restricts freedom because we can only move within its confines -- even the car does that. Now pedestrians have to watch carefully where they walk, etc...

Yes it's a very nice camera!

You are welcome.

You are right, but the thing is, I wasn't just referring to traditional work. I was referring to tasks that give people a purpose in some way, such as community contributions, which will be hard to do because people will just take the path of least resistance and use AI instead. Less work is GOOD. But less ways to contribute to a community and good causes is bad.

Most people have dreams because they are unrealizable or extremely difficult to achieve. That is why they are dreams. The moment those dreams become extremely easy to achieve, as will eventually happen with AGI/ASI, they will disappear and we will see millions of people with extreme existential crises, that is, probably more than 80% of humanity, being optimistic. In fact, who says that AGI/ASI should allow humans to live in peace and harmony? All I know is that in nature there is nothing signed, and people will be out of work, permanently controlled by a higher entity and fearing every day that someone or something will press the red button and end all humanity. I do not know who has claimed that an artificial intelligence will be subservient to humans. I do not see the sense in that. An AI is nature itself. Nature was never moral. Rather amoral towards all its "children." Humanity will lose all its remaining ethics. Today, that already exists. I don't see why it should improve in the future.

@@raulavila-t5u i'm italian, most people already have constant existential crisis

AI will solve some problems, but they aren't truly our problems. They are problems of the machine and integrating humans within it.

You are right, but also in a sense, the industrial revolution paved the way for AI and so did the internet. To paraphrase Jacques Ellul, the industrial revolution not only refined "technique" but was a key to the deep absorption of technique in the collective human psyche.

This argument supports technological determinism, which is yet another reason why we need to go beyond the normal channels to stop AI.