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tbf it seems like one of the more humanly viable parts

still, definitely for tas

it is! you just spring cancel up instead of spike jump

it's mentioned in the pinned comment but basically what you need to know is: downdiags set a flag that crouches you instantly whenever you collide with the ground after, this applies even if you're in climb state which lets us climb while crouched

@@exopta ah, i missed the pinned comment. thank you for explaining!

ty, will pin this when youtube stops being Bad to me

This tech doesn't have much of a name afaik (squish? Block squish?), but what's happening here is that if you position yourself properly between a block that's about to crush you against a wall, the game pushes you *inside* of the block for a frame before forcing you out. Since you're technically vertically colliding with a solid that way, it counts as being "on the ground" and gives you your dash & stamina back.

@@exopta cool, thank you. On a semi-related note, I was wondering sometimes if there could be an interesting custom map that is supposed to be played with invincibility on, where you need to get inside the blocks that would normally crush you, etc. Seems like a potentially fun thing but I'm not sure.

​@@aleksandr_berdnikov you lowkey predicted a map lmao

@@vital6317 Can you tell me what map you are referring to? Would like to check it out.

@aleksandr_berdnikov its "awake" in the breeze contest

You can always contribute 🙃 I should probably put a link to the Celeste Challenge discord in the description

The way it works is that stunning is basically indefinitely delaying the moment that a spinner actually loads, and the requirements for that include being a certain distance away from Madeline, as well as being within the camera's bounds. With jumpless not being able to get a lot of speed in general most of the time, this results in some prettty bad stunning for some rooms

God I wish, wind is just a *bit* too strong to get that save

not sure about this but i think it's because at 42:25 the tas hits a spring and then starts pausing which like makes the game confused with sounds so that pausing later on plays the spring noise again maybe

At 6:50 what's being done is hazard stunning, usually used for dust bunnies and spinners (the community name for the crystal spikes that appear later in the game. Also lighting in 9a). TLDR, the game usually keeps spinners unloaded if the player camera is far enough away from them, and only checks whether they should load every 3 frames. So if you pause on the third frame of that global timer, the game 'skips' over it, keeping the hazard visible but unloaded. The grabbing is just done by grabbing and releasing grab every other frame so the game doesn't slide us down into the spikes

good time stamp

Sure! If you're looking for an explicit tutorial, Gliperal has a pretty great series that covers a good amount of knowledge that you can start out with - ruclips.net/video/5hd6cUGwyEg/видео.html Otherwise, my main advice is to just go at it. Drafting TASes, then improving them over time as you learn more about the game is especially helpful. If you don't know exactly which map to start with, the TASing section of the Celeste discord has some new things pop up in #tasing_projects occasionally. Personally, I improved by making random improvements to the maingame TASes like Any% and drafting/optimizing for modded maps every now and then (though by now the former is nearly infeasible for anyone that's not pretty experienced already given how optimized those got :P) So for a beginner I'd def recommend just finding a modded map you enjoy playing casually and drafting that as a first project. Good luck!

@@exopta thanks for the response! I’ll definitely check out that tutorial and see what I can learn. Something I’ve been doing to sort of practice is TASing random challenges (like 0 gravity). They’re not necessarily good, more of a proof of concept if anything, but it’s been helpful for learning how the program works and pretty fun.

Not necessarily; for example, the dash has a cooldown period of about 0.15s (iirc) when you have no control of a character. Sometimes it's enough to just slow down the game and play a lot of sections manually, but the right set of inputs isn't always a trivial task to find. And, although it may seem perfect, TASes are regularly improved, be it new discoveries or small optimizations.

A significant amount of the inputs were already done by TeDeMos/Roofon, my main contributions were mostly just syncing + optimizing stuff a bunch (and drafting 7A). Also yeah compared to something like dashless, you just tend to spend wayy less time on any given second of gameplay just because the dash is a pretty straightforward mechanic (doubly so when you can't pair it along with jumping)

@@kolskytraveller1369 you can dash 15 frames after the previous dash (including the 3 freeze frames from the dash but excluding any other freeze frames). That comes out to 0.25s. And if you want to optimize for speed, slowing down the game and recording inputs usually is not sufficient.

isn't a jump, it's a down dash, you can see it better in 0,25x

It's called spinner stunning -- from what I understand, pausing on every third frame (maybe? the interval might be different) causes 1/3 of spinners (that's those dust bunnies, the red and black things, but also the circleish spikes in Chapter 4 onward) to not check if they should load collision, meaning if you started pause-spamming while they were out of range, then they'll never realize they're in range, never load, and therefore never have a hitbox -- as long as you keep spamming pause at that rate. This is obviously tas-only because each pause is frame-perfect from my understanding. Some tases, like the newer true ending% (finish chapter 9: farewell) abuse this to go fast. They just hold the journal button while spamming pause so you don't see the pause screen. This can also be done in RTA (without TAS) if you wait a few weeks for an internal timer to go haywire (which is the same one that tries to tell spinners to load, but we stop it by pausing because it increments but doesn't load on the pause screen). When that timer goes haywire, it fails to count properly and you get spinner stunning without pausing. Sorry for that wall of text, hope you understand! I'm sure you can find an in-depth visual guide or an explanation by an actual TASer if you look.

@@zworx5236 Yeah I could kind of understand what was happening, it's just so crazy to me that it's possible as I've never seen this before.

nah it's so easy even a newborn can do it

All TAS files are over at github.com/hellogoodbye/jumplesstas

The wall, she's just really high up which looks weird - just holding grab would pull us lower down the wall but spamming it keeps us in that position