Find to My Own Sound
Find to My Own Sound
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What's the difference between op amp? (OPA2132,NE5532,JRC4558,5532DD)
00:43 Frequency Responses 00:51 JRC 4558D. 01:00 NE 5532. 01:30 4558 VS 5532. 02:06 OPA2132. 02:48 Same Number NE5532, JRC5532. 03:13 TL072, JRC072
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04:03 Arabesque -Debussy (NE5532)
05:01 Arabesque -Debussy (JRC4558)
05:59 Arabesque -Debussy (JRC5532)
06:56 Arabesque -Debussy (OPA2132)
07:55 In the Labyrinths of Hell by On the Dark Side.3 (JRC4558)
08:17 In the Labyrinths of Hell by On the Dark Side.3 (NE5532)
08:39 In the Labyrinths of Hell by On the Dark Side.3 (JRC5532)
09:00 In the Labyrinths of Hell by On the Dark Side.3 (OPA2132)
09:23 Tell Me (Why Won't You) by For Marvin and Ray.1 (JRC4558)
09:53 Tell Me (Why Won't You) by For Marvin and Ray.1 (NE553...
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JRC 072D Clean - Sound Archive
Просмотров 267Год назад
Clean sound from JRC 072D. 0:05 ARP Comparison 1:05 Stroke Comparison You used a simple buffer before the image. The circuit is a reference for the OP-AMP sound test. Hope it helps with your effector DIY. If you're looking forward to continuously updating your DIY information, it'll be a great help if you click 'Subscribe' and 'Like'. #072D #JRC #NJM#opamp #sound #072
Can you hear the frequency difference? JRC 072D VS TL 072 Comparison (Clean Sound)
Просмотров 625Год назад
This is a comparison between TL072CP and JRC072D. 0:05 072D ARP 1:10 TL072 ARP 2:10 072D VS TL072 ARP 3:11 072D Stroke 3:42 TL072 Stroke 4:13 072D VS TL072 Stroke 072D is the JRC's 072 number. TL072 and 072D sound very similar. There is a slight difference. Personally, like JRC 4558, 072D sounds thinner than TL072. It's a significant difference for someone, a meaningless difference for someone....
TL072CP Clean - Sound Archive
Просмотров 318Год назад
Clean sound from TL072CP. 0:03 ARP Comparison 1:05 Stroke Comparison Texas Instruments' TL number is easy to find on multiple equipment. Now that J201 is discontinued, it's hard to get more Harmonics from the inputs. So you can also think about cascading the TL072 using JFET input using the ultra-short buffer. Because 072 is as cheap as 4558. The input impedance of the TL072 itself is also very...
Can you hear the frequency difference? TL072 VS JRC4558D Comparison (Clean Sound)
Просмотров 2,6 тыс.Год назад
This is a comparison between LT 072CP and JRC4558D. 0:05 TL072 ARP 1:03 4558D ARP 2:10 TL072 VS 4558 ARP 3:11 TL072 Stroke 3:42 4558D Stroke 4:13 TL072 VS 4558 Stroke The two OP-AMPs have long been used in professional mixers, effectors, and audio. 4558 is a transistor input type and 072 is a JFET input type. If you look at the waveform visually, it doesn't make much difference. Personally, 072...
JRC4559D Clean Sound
Просмотров 195Год назад
Clean sound from NJM/JRC4559D. 0:09 ARP Comparison 1:08 Stroke Comparison You used a simple buffer before the image. The circuit is a reference for the OP-AMP sound test. Here is the link between NJM/JRC 4559D and4558D Sound Comparison. Hope it helps with your effector DIY. If you're looking forward to continuously updating your DIY information, it'll be a great help if you click 'Subscribe' an...
Can you hear the frequency difference? JRC 4558D VS 4559D Comparison (Clean Sound)
Просмотров 364Год назад
This is a comparison between JRC 4558 and JRC4559. 0:05 4559D ARP 1:10 4558D ARP 2:10 4559D VS 4558D ARP 3:11 4559D Stroke 3:42 4558D Stroke 4:13 4559D VS 4558D Stroke The 4559D is an OP-AMP released to complement the shortcomings of the 4558D. However, the data sheet provided by NJM is 2 pages. There is no difference in the values presented by the data sheet. What? How much improvement? Person...
RC 4558 Clean Sound
Просмотров 84Год назад
Clean sound from RC 4558P. 0:05 ARP Comparison 1:05 Stroke Comparison You used a simple buffer before the image. The circuit is a reference for the OP-AMP sound test. Here is the link between NJM/JRC 4558D and Sound Comparison. ruclips.net/video/LVuZJnmV9Ec/видео.html Hope it helps with your effector DIY. If you're looking forward to continuously updating your DIY information, it'll be a great ...
Can you hear the frequency difference? JRC 4558D VS RC4558 Comparison (Clean Sound)
Просмотров 1,7 тыс.Год назад
This is a comparison between JRC 4558 and RC 4558 in Texas Instruments, which is the representative of 4558 number. How are the sounds of the two OP-AMPs different? The frequency responses of the two OP-AMPs in the same circuit, although they are the same 4558 number, are different. View frequencies visually and compare them with your ears. I personally use it separately according to the purpos...
JRC 4558D(NOS) Clean - Sound Archive
Просмотров 69Год назад
Clean sound from NOS JRC 4558D. 0:03 ARP Comparison 1:05 Stroke Comparison It's an OP-AMP that many people replace to find the old sound of the TS808. 'Can I find the sound of the original TS808?' This question has long been one of the curiosity of guitar players. "Answer" for some, "Myth" for others. Whatever you think, it's personal freedom :) You used a simple buffer before the image. The ci...
JRC 4558D Clean - Sound Archive
Просмотров 125Год назад
Clean sound from JRC 4558D. 0:03 ARP Comparison 1:05 Stroke Comparison You used a simple buffer before the image. The circuit is a reference for the OP-AMP sound test. The sound link for NOS 4558D is here. ruclips.net/video/xO3LmTZ3wXo/видео.html Here is the link between NOS 4558D and Sound Comparison. ruclips.net/video/cLSujW7kkyk/видео.html Hope it helps with your effector DIY. If you're look...
Can you hear the frequency difference? JRC 4558D VS 4558D NOS Comparison (Clean Sound)
Просмотров 249Год назад
0:03 4558D ARP 1:03 NOS ARP 2:05 NOS VS 4558D ARP 3:07 4558D Stroke 3:38 NOS Stroke 4:08 NOS VS 4558 Stroke The JRC 4558D has long been used in guitar effectors. It's been used for a long time in the TS808 that everyone knows about. Because of that, there are many people who want to have the sound of the old 808. Some of them are trying to get sound by replacing OP-AMP. How different are the so...

Комментарии

  • @odis929
    @odis929 13 дней назад

    Great video.

  • @psyphonyxaudio
    @psyphonyxaudio Месяц назад

    OPA 2132 .. totally. HiFi.

  • @scottbennett3119
    @scottbennett3119 Месяц назад

    Great video! Thanks, and please do more comparisons.. 2604, etc.

  • @GustavoRocha-gy1rf
    @GustavoRocha-gy1rf Месяц назад

    Congratulations per this video 🎉 Mate can you make another video like this showing the response of frequency of the best op amps of the market like Burson V7 Vivid, Sparkos and Stacato ?

  • @ramrecords1
    @ramrecords1 2 месяца назад

    Es sutil el el cambio...

  • @danilolacap4596
    @danilolacap4596 2 месяца назад

    NE 5532 IS MUTCH SMOOTH AND CLEAN

  • @maniacaudiophile
    @maniacaudiophile 3 месяца назад

    My favorite has always been and likely still is OPA637... but kinda a pain to use in places.

  • @piotro9994
    @piotro9994 3 месяца назад

    Fantastic work! 😉👍

  • @RickRuizAudio
    @RickRuizAudio 3 месяца назад

    Good video 👍

  • @ChipanJana
    @ChipanJana 4 месяца назад

    Your audio is too quiet. Cannot hear you properly above a normal road outside. Can hear everyone else on youtube fine. Ipad pro maxed out.

    • @ChipanJana
      @ChipanJana 4 месяца назад

      And the fact that you think people will be able to tell the difference between these op amps WHILE THEY’RE LISTENING ON DIFFERENT ONES means you’re not to be considered. Channel blocked.

  • @makstex
    @makstex 4 месяца назад

    Просто запусти тест rmaa несколько раз (для уменьшения погрешности) на каждом усилителе. Сжатие ютуб всё нивелирует, никакой разницы нет.

  • @TheMillMadison
    @TheMillMadison 4 месяца назад

    Really, a very, very nice video. Thank you.

  • @Pentode3000
    @Pentode3000 7 месяцев назад

    What a bunch of crap...

  • @oficinadomarcheto
    @oficinadomarcheto 7 месяцев назад

    Voce só vai ouvir diferenca mesmo quando comparar um st tl072c com um texas lf353p voce nao vai acreditar na enorme diferença

  • @Douglas_Blake_579
    @Douglas_Blake_579 7 месяцев назад

    Scale matters! 1:10 ... Measuring the 4558 at 12db of gain (voltage gain of 4) against the 5532 at 0 gain is not a realistic comparison.

  • @crossoverchef
    @crossoverchef 7 месяцев назад

    TL072 might be just a touch softer, however it seems to have more ringing.

  • @wakesfield
    @wakesfield 8 месяцев назад

    For me the JRC 4558D has the best sound, for me the most natural and dynamic sound. I have listen to this in a acoustic treated room with expensive studio monitor.

    • @SzalonyPirat-b2r
      @SzalonyPirat-b2r 6 месяцев назад

      5532dd best the music that plays was created on it XD

  • @mikepxg6406
    @mikepxg6406 8 месяцев назад

    It simply depends on the design application. Replacing an op amp is more likely to add distortion as the Equipment you have is designed around the opamp inside. Most people don't have enough electronic knowledge to do this. Every mixing desk in the audio chain has gone through hundreds of NE5532. So you put in an unsuitable JFet OPamp in a little box in your living room, you hear some high frequency noise and think it sounds better because you paid more for it, Unless you can test an improvement you are probably making things worse. Plenty of High End audio use Philips / Signetics NE5532 because they are perfect for audio,

    • @ItsMe-mq9tp
      @ItsMe-mq9tp 8 месяцев назад

      Thx🎉

    • @fx-studio
      @fx-studio 5 месяцев назад

      The NE5532 is an opamp from the 1970's, nearly 50 years old ! Believe me the world has moved on a bit since then.

    • @davidlong1786
      @davidlong1786 17 дней назад

      @@fx-studio If it works very well then why does that matter? Like @mikepxg6406 said, you have to know what you are doing instead of just swapping out opamps without any other changes.

  • @TranscendentBen
    @TranscendentBen 8 месяцев назад

    1:11 These graphs are totally made up. Here it shows the NE5532 with 0dB gain at 30Hz (the left-hand portion of the graph, why not 20Hz like True Audiophiles would want ...), but the JRC4558 has a gain of over 12dB. These would have to be in different circuits for this to be true, so it's clearly not a valid comparison. Sorry, folks, you need to learn a minimum amount about electronics to have a clue what's true and what's not.

  • @2jpu524
    @2jpu524 9 месяцев назад

    We're also at the mercy of the you-tube compression algorithm.

    • @xfloodcasual8124
      @xfloodcasual8124 8 месяцев назад

      Theres no issue with RUclips compression anymore. it can stream 96Khz if you encode correctly.

  • @ohmuseek4290
    @ohmuseek4290 9 месяцев назад

    Great video, i am glad to have purchased several 5532DD

  • @you2ber252
    @you2ber252 10 месяцев назад

    You mean the open loop freqeuncy response, of course. And what about the slew rate and the noise shae... However to my hifi experience, NE5532 with reasonable negative feedback is fully transparent in the audio band.

  • @TTVEaGMXde
    @TTVEaGMXde 10 месяцев назад

    I wouldn't even use the 80s Op Amps as an offset servo anymore.

    • @AstroSam66
      @AstroSam66 6 месяцев назад

      Could you please tell us why?

    • @TTVEaGMXde
      @TTVEaGMXde 6 месяцев назад

      @@AstroSam66 4558 is much too slow, 5532 input resistance min = 30K Ohm, 2132 and 072 are FET OP Amps which are usually only tested at 2K Ohm or less load (no 600 Ohm load) and tend to produce even harmonics that sound "nice" but not original. The input noise is much higher, and very high at 40 Hz.

    • @AstroSam66
      @AstroSam66 6 месяцев назад

      @@TTVEaGMXde The higher the input impedance the better. There are not much OpAmps which can drive a 600 Ohm load (NE5532 or LM4562 e.g.) If the OpAmp is not capable to drive 600 Ohm, you could always use a Unitygain Stage as follow up. And most of the time, driving a load of lesser than 2k is not necessary because the input impedance of Audio Equipment (besides of Studios) is always higher than 2k.

    • @TTVEaGMXde
      @TTVEaGMXde 6 месяцев назад

      @@AstroSam66 However, a larger output resistance is required to avoid oscillations caused by the cable capacitance. The feedback path must be built with very low resistance for low-noise applications.

    • @AstroSam66
      @AstroSam66 6 месяцев назад

      @@TTVEaGMXde What are you trying to say? At first you blame OpAmps to have a too high output impedance, then you say you need a high output impedance. The resistance of the feedbackpath has to be as low, thats right. But has nothing to do with the OpAmp itself. It is caused by the Johnson noise. BTW: you already did not tell us why the "older" OpAmps are not as good as new ones.

  • @reinermunch5159
    @reinermunch5159 10 месяцев назад

    Thank you for this valuable comparison... Nice Rock part

  • @subratamanna7321
    @subratamanna7321 10 месяцев назад

    OPA 2132

  • @ArchetypalCat
    @ArchetypalCat 10 месяцев назад

    Interesting thing to do. Other possible comparisons: 1. Sweep a sine wave from say 100 Hz to 7K Hz - much further outside that passband won't come through well on most devices people might be using to watch the video. 2. Do the same but run the left channel through dry and the right through the test opamp. 3. Do the same with left and right having different opamps. 4. Set up a comb filter and sweep its fundamental as above - vary by using odd, even, and random harmonics. Although square waves or triangle waves are rich in harmonics, the controlled overtones of a comb filter reveal a lot more intreguing spectral relationships. Be forewarned though: if you're as much of an audio geek as I think you are :) ) you'll be mezmerized by the sound - and wake up realizing several hours just vanished. Nice work. Hope you do more!

  • @zarkoujdur9424
    @zarkoujdur9424 10 месяцев назад

    JRC4558 is very old opamp, and prefix JRC means nothing, it is a just generic 4558 opamp, afaik... ))

    • @Douglas_Blake_579
      @Douglas_Blake_579 7 месяцев назад

      The chip is an RC4558 ... made by a number of companies with NE, LM and other brand prefixes. It's still around and it's dirt cheap because literally millions of them are sold every year. The J prefix from ArtChip indicates it is 22 volt tolerant where the standard chips are only 15 volts.

    • @peterlarkin762
      @peterlarkin762 7 месяцев назад

      Always thought it stands for Japan Radio Corp!?

  • @arthurrose6473
    @arthurrose6473 10 месяцев назад

    Excellent video! You present the same set of op amps I was researching, and you gave frequency response curves, a multitude of music genre, and an artistic, professional presentation! I've watched this video probably a half dozen times because of it's content as well as presentation.

  • @MrPolluxxxx
    @MrPolluxxxx 10 месяцев назад

    I'm not familiar with audio electronics. Comparing different chips without mentioning the circuit they are used in is confusing to me. The frequency response of the amplifier changes based on the applied feedback. Is it some kind of standard circuit? I'm sure you're not using the opamps in open-loop configuration.

    • @AndrewDelle
      @AndrewDelle 10 месяцев назад

      Absolutely! I was going to post the same comments. Those response graphs are useless without knowing the external circuit design. Just for starters, what is the gain these OPAMPS under test? And then doing listening comparisons through the RUclips audio chain?

    • @MrPolluxxxx
      @MrPolluxxxx 10 месяцев назад

      @@AndrewDelle it's nice to know I'm not crazy. I hope they are all talking about these opamps in the context of a reference circuit topology, otherwise this whole comment section makes no sense.

    • @Douglas_Blake_579
      @Douglas_Blake_579 7 месяцев назад

      I can't speak for headphone amps, I never use them. But in the new mini-amps everyone is going gaga over, the ne5532 chips are almost universally used as phase splitters to drive the TPA32xx series chips balanced inputs. Some have a little bit of gain, 3db is typical, most operate at unity gain. At unity gain the frequency response will be that of the chip's Gain/Bandwidth product (AKA unity gain bandwidth) and thanks to the massive feedback used it will be ruler flat. In this configuration both the 4558 and 5532 chips will give you extremely low distortion and perfectly flat response, well beyond a megahertz. In fact, I've seen 4558 chips passing a 6 volt, 1mhz square wave on my breadboard circuits. The 5532 will do it too, but the input impedance is much lower, leading to some low frequency roll off below 10hz.

    • @Douglas_Blake_579
      @Douglas_Blake_579 7 месяцев назад

      @@MrPolluxxxx The comparison is valid in that chip-flipping does not alter the surrounding circuits... so it is testing different chips in the same circumstance. What is not realistic is comparing the response at 12db of gain with that at 0 gain. (Look carefully at the scaling on those graphs.) Not the same chip, not the same circuit ... no premise for comparison.

    • @MrPolluxxxx
      @MrPolluxxxx 7 месяцев назад

      ​@Douglas_Blake_579 Yes, that's true. But I dont think it's very meaningful. We don't know what circuit or what device (I don't remember if he says what device he's using) he's flipping chips in, so we only know what difference it makes in his very specific case. In other circuits, it might not even make any difference.

  • @whoisntwhoisit2126
    @whoisntwhoisit2126 10 месяцев назад

    TL072 sounds more sterile than source but much better than JRC072D

  • @bigstick5278
    @bigstick5278 11 месяцев назад

    Is there something wrong with your voice? You sound like you're laboring.

  • @frankjansson7563
    @frankjansson7563 11 месяцев назад

    With what im using to listen to this (Laptop with headphones, probably crapy signalpath) i can't hear any differences between4558D and 4558D NOS. But, will relisten to all your clips with better audio gear. Thankyou for sharing. This is really exciting. // Frank

  • @frankjansson7563
    @frankjansson7563 11 месяцев назад

    To my ears the TL072 "sings" more in the upper register. so the harmonics stand out. In the ARP section when the OP-AMP sounds, the sound feels like it has some phaseshift. Is it the roundtrip delay?. Love theese kinds of videos. Im just someone who loves working with sound.

  • @frankjansson7563
    @frankjansson7563 11 месяцев назад

    To my ears the TL072 "sings" more in the upper register. so the harmonics stand out. In the ARP section when the OP-AMP sounds, the sound feels like it has some phaseshift. Is it the roundtrip delay?. Love theese kinds of videos. Im just someone who loves working with sound.

  • @frankjansson7563
    @frankjansson7563 11 месяцев назад

    This is really interesting. Thank you!

  • @tomekichiyamamoto2177
    @tomekichiyamamoto2177 11 месяцев назад

    Thank you for this video.

  • @cortessarge5399
    @cortessarge5399 11 месяцев назад

    How about for active low pass filter sir whic opamp is the best? Thank you

    • @GeoBass-89
      @GeoBass-89 3 месяца назад

      Jrc4558 is legend for deep low bass frequency. and not critical in circuit for some errors design layout etc... work even at 5v single supply preety well

  • @dextertech6570
    @dextertech6570 11 месяцев назад

    Your TL072 is fake, so it's not correct test

  • @evoltap
    @evoltap 11 месяцев назад

    Wow both sound like shit compared to the source. My console is full of JRC072D’s. I wish they were all socketed…

  • @gamiwv
    @gamiwv Год назад

    I prefer NE5532 . Piano is extremely demanding to reproduce (NE5532 has EXCELLENT but not fatiguing "attack") and I have the track (in "Day dreaming" CD) so I have "a reference" without YT compression, to compare. I also quite often use LM4562. Much faster than NE5532 and much more capable to drive "more current demanding loads" but also no "fatiguing sound" at all.

  • @peterkalmar757
    @peterkalmar757 Год назад

    Interesting Video. But there come some Questions in my mind. Isn't it also a matter of the Design around these Opamps? Arent's these different Input types, like Fet (OPA2132), JFET (TL 072), Biplar BJT (NE5532) CMOS (OPA1656). Arent there different input resistances between these opamps? Don't have some internal Frequency compensated, and some need external compensation? Is it a good idea just to switch an opamp in a circuit between these types? Couldn't it be, that they won't work properly?

  • @maxscripten_ua9236
    @maxscripten_ua9236 Год назад

    Such chips have 2 parts only ( the middle part and the end one). It need to add J-FET 2SK170 before such chips as like Quad preamp has. Full 3parted chips - are as like AD8051, NE5534 etc

  • @maxscripten_ua9236
    @maxscripten_ua9236 Год назад

    thank you very much!

  • @MkUltra-sk6dx
    @MkUltra-sk6dx Год назад

    here the new one wins over the old one if the signal strength was the same. The new one plays more clearly with silibants 

  • @MkUltra-sk6dx
    @MkUltra-sk6dx Год назад

    less air, the scene is worse, but the original is always better, the more elements in the audio track, the worse 

  • @MkUltra-sk6dx
    @MkUltra-sk6dx Год назад

    4558 clearly plays higher and is more tight than tl72

  • @MkUltra-sk6dx
    @MkUltra-sk6dx Год назад

    a darker and smaller stage does not play as wide

  • @Zockopa
    @Zockopa Год назад

    Personaly i use 2068DD as replacement for various older low cost opamps in vintage audio gear. Its pretty universal and easy to implement. However,of equal importance are the passive parts surrounding it. Some more modern opamps are clearly better when it comes to noise and THD,but in practice its not worth the investment in most cases. Anyway only opamp rolling doesnt do the trick in most cases.

    • @noneofyerbeeswax8194
      @noneofyerbeeswax8194 Год назад

      "Of equal importance are the passive parts surrounding it". Yes, absolutely. OpAmp rolling doesn't do the trick. You also need gold plated jacks and pure 101% silver cables.😁

  • @caraudioguru
    @caraudioguru Год назад

    Very underrated channel.. great work brother, keep these vids coming..

  • @STINGX84
    @STINGX84 Год назад

    OPA 2132 👍