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It's actually not that uncommon at high level to place all your pieces in play! The more pieces the messier and the more fun 😁

Flexible and compact is often a good choice as it gives you more option to react to your opponent. When you pin the opponent pieces instead you want to create long rigid strings for them. But this game was also pretty chaotic due to the mosquito-pillbug combos!

@@goldengriffon you often learn more from losing than from winning right? :) and there are so many strong players around I need to learn from!

@@Olios576 I'm not sure what you mean for moving again the black pillbug.. the black pillbug is pinned, it can't be moved otherwise the hive would break, isn't it?

I mean "after", I have dyslexia

I like it! Kill box😁

Basically.. i should rename the video like that🤣

When I'm lucky and in the right mood the games become fun 😁

It's hard to say when a game is 'better' than another one, a lot of it is subjective. There are some criteria of course, but even considering those (you mention in the comment below), why not to write a more propositional sentence like 'have you ever tried mosaic?' Because it seems to me your comment is out of context in the comment section of this video. This being said, can i find the rules of Mosaic somewhere?

@@FrascoAdAbstra Only in the game.

this happens simply because you and your friends have played each other too many times and have not been exposed to other strategies out there by playing with other people. I recommend to try to play Hive on BGA or Hivegame.com and you'll discover soon that it's much more fun than you think! The draw rate nowadays is much lower than the one of chess for the top players for instance, and similar to the one in chess for amateurs level, so there is no draw problem :) (there was back then when the Queen Bee was allowed as first move more than 10 years ago, but that opening is forbidden in tournaments nowadays).

I would have preferred to be immortal winning but it's fine ahah :)

You're perfectly right. I might call it that way sometimes too. But it was formalised by Jewdoka in his first book and he doesn't have much of a chess background I think or he just didn’t want to recycle the term. So since then most people call it ambiguous although spider fork sounds good and clear to me! (Fun fact: often we call zugzwang 'bugzwang' ahah)

It's a common issue with abstract games having a slightpy more complex set of rules I think. People are not attracted by the theme and at the same time they find the rules hard to memorise. I have to add that, in Homeworlds, also how to reach the goal is quite vague! But I agree that it's a fantastic game so I hope we can find some way to spread it more easily. For Hive we started to distribute a small sheet that summarise all the rules, maybe that would help (and on BGA there is a tutorial already I guess?). Btw Thanks for watching :)

Risk? I wouldn't think any differently about it than how computers play chess or go etc...

@@jonathanandrews3381 You might be right, but that would depend on the complexity of the hypothetical solution. That is, if the AI finds an assured path to victory (or even a draw) that is simple enough for people to memorize, that would severely damage the game for me. I am no mathematician though, and it is possible that this scenario is highly unlikely.

@@jonathanandrews3381 ​It's not easy to estimate how easily a game can be (weakly) solved. Branching factor is the main parameter but all depends on the solution to be simple enough to be memorised. I don't think there is such risk for homeworlds but opening theory could be more 'narrow' for instance

@@FrascoAdAbstra Yes, the homeworlds tutorial on BGA by Any Looney is very well done.

I might be wrong but I discarded an offensive move straight away. You simply don't have enough time to try to win in such positions where: - your killspots are quickly being filled - your empty killspots are fewer than the opponent one. - your pillbug is not next to your queen (or it's neutralized alread) - the opponent pillbug hasn't been neutralised yet - your opponent has enough material (here they had at least 6 pieces in reserve+play) Until some of these factors change, it's premature to attack. There are exceptions of course but you have to calculate properly all the possible variations to find them. (ops sorry that was my personal account)

Thanks so much! Welcome to the Hive community (or abstract games world if you are into other games too). You should check out the discord for Hive if you want to have more interaction with other players :) discord.com/invite/U5zCSNHANQ Have fun!

The point is that it's not hard to stop a spider but it requires an investment. If this is an ant to pin it for instance, in the long run that investment (in terms of tempo and hive strucure) might be costly even if it seems only a nuisance at first. Also threatening to pin an ant or a beetle with a spider is always effective as it can create material deficit in the endgame if not addressed.

Thank you! :) if it wasn't clear by the way, most of the work I do nowadays, such as running tournaments, is sponsored by Gen42 (fuelled by my love for Hive ofc!)

Yeah the hex trap is more of a typical shape, not an opening per se. I'm up for inventing new names for opening😁 do you know traffic light or the rastafari opening??

Ok I'll keep it silent!

Hi! I'm glad you like it :) 1. Yes the tournament opening (no Queen as first move) is the only way to play here, and 2. Nope no carbon yet! Maybe in the future but not sure if/when

It could be nice in principle but once the feature will be available it should be possible just to analyse the game post-mortem by yourself. Or if you don't like the idea you can always play without time control! (unlimited time games)

Cause you should never play without expansions! ;) But if you really want to, grasshopper or beetle is the way :)

It's called BoardSpace.net! But there is a new platform dedicated to Hive who's coming soon :)

Thanks! I'll have a look :)

Thanks :) (by the way as I probably said in the video, I don't recommend these openings for beginners! No offence, just that it's better to practice with the most common and solid patterns first) I wouldn't use Smartbot to practice, but when you'll be able to beat it every time then it means you're doing well definitely :D The main point is that the bot doesn't show you where you go wrong, so humans are needed! Maybe I should do some videos more useful for beginners. Thanks for the support!

I didn't come up with the name myself, Leex told me about it the first time but I'm not even sure it comes from him actually! It fits well anyway 😁

If they are ok for black then they're surely good enough for white as well :)

oh I'm really sorry I hadn't thought about it! It was just meant as special effect for this video to show the transition between the platforms.. it's not gonna happen soon, should I write a warning message in the description of this video? Thanks for the feedback :)

Thank you so much for the honest feedback! I appreciate all sorts of comments that can help the videos, being also very aware that I'm not a professional youtuber or coach either :) I agree with you that the first part was a bit confusing, probably also because I didn't have any slide/text in the video and my words are not very fluid. From the next lesson I plan to focus on a specific theme/idea each time so that it's easier for both the trainees and the audience to follow my thoughts. I have to say that I'm also a bit confused by their level, I expected very beginners but they play already pretty well! So I wasn't sure if I had to start from the very basics or move on to explain some more nuanced concepts. But I'll be more prepared next time hopefully :) Thanks again!!

@@FrascoAdAbstra Having a more focused "topic" for a session (like you do in some of your pedagogical videos) can definitely help, but indeed in a first session with unclear level, that's difficult! I'm not even sure that the level will be "homogeneous"… Anyway, for a "session 0" it still seemed pretty nice (not sure if the students did give you explicit feedback, but they seemed very happy in the video 😉) and I'm sure it will be easier to adjust with time!

Either boardgamearena.com/ or www.boardspace.net/english/index.shtml but a new platform dedicated only to Hive is coming soon ;)

you think so? I thought the analysis would be more interesting.. sometimes it takes quite a while for players to play a move

@@FrascoAdAbstra it is but I don’t how the you’re using the screen. I like equal analysis equal gameplay.

@@FrascoAdAbstra very sorry, I’ve watched on IPhone, looks much better on pc.

Correct! Using the spiders efficiently can unbalance the game and lead to a material advantage (pinning a major piece with a spider for instance)

Commentating short games? Good to know, I'll do it again :)

Cool, thanks! Where was this played by the way?@@FrascoAdAbstra

yep, never resign! (in general, keep an eye on the opponent's spawn points :D)

What platform is this? Looks really cool!

you're welcome! thanks for watching :)

More like an almost certain rumor ;) But by the end of the year we'll make a proper announcement!

🤣 I was trying not to forget what to say ahah

In hindsight it looks like a mistake but it's not easy to evaluate that black can take advantage of that! The game had quite a few other turning points, not east at all! Glad you enjoyed the streaming :)

Agree. It's was just my feeling during the live game. But I'm just an average player and they are masters for a reason.