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@@drdontpassone8164 walking distance to The Orleans, short bike or skateboard to Palms, Gold Coast, Rio area.

@@pair-a-dicecraps8618 great

So you are saying the Fib made the difference?

@@pair-a-dicecraps8618 betting makes a difference. if it was just flat betting $25 you would have lost $100. So betting makes a difference. It won vs the regular DP ladder because after 2 wins you come back to base so you’re not up at those high levels for too long. This betting sequence doesn’t require multiple wins to be in profit. Just 2. Also when it’s a choppy table w/l/w/l at higher levels you are making 100+ per win/loss. No strategy is perfect but am a big fan of the sequence of betting.

@@iptvclub1575 or are you just saying we would have hit our 10% PT sooner on the PL?

@@pair-a-dicecraps8618 in the rollout on the video yes. Passline outpaced the don’t by 57% vs 43%. Long term it should be 50/50. Still believe in DP over passline long term though. The point of my comment despite being outpaced we still hit profit target based on the betting system.

Thanks IPTV Club, that was fun. 2 wins and back to base makes keeping track of the levels a little easier.

@@710Ken Hey Ken, doing ok down here thanks, how has your summer been in NH so far?

@@waylonswaycraps thanks Waylon, sorry I missed you. I really like this one, guess I will be taking a $1500 BR with me from now on.

Good luck brother! I think you'll love my King of the Darkside strategy for bubble craps as well! Test it out some on your app​@@pair-a-dicecraps8618

Yeah, this is a good balanced strategy, thanks for sharing!

Sorry to hear that, have you rolled it out much? AZ Craps Shooters and IPTV Club have not had much luck with it either.

@@pair-a-dicecraps8618 Not tomuch no, once it gets up there the odds of you recovering that many times to bring it back down aren't good, having like a $200 passline and your point is 4 or 10 often is a death sentence so if I were to continue to play it I would only go up in $5 increments and have a stop level at $75-$100 and if you lose go back to the minimum or switch strategies. The baccarat strategy I've found is much better with a progressive minimal lay, start out with a lay on the 4 for $30 or 40 and when it wins press it up $10 each time that way if the table is could you can take advantage of it and on come out passline winners it gets you to your goal faster & acts as a slight hedge when you're on the DP. When your lay gets up to $100 and wins just bring it back down to the minimum $30-40 and start over & lock in that pressed up profit. You can go back in forth between the 4 and 10 if one gets knocked off switch to the other and always start at the minimum 30 or 40, it is the perfect addition to the baccarat it needs something else coupled with it and a progressive lay I've found works great and gets you to your win goal faster try it.

@@censr1 Daniel, I just lost again on the "Craps on a budget" strat. Variance is a real strategy killer.

@@pair-a-dicecraps8618 I have not rolled out the craps on a budget strat but watched the video it didn't interest me much. My last comment I guess never went through even though I typed it out 2 different times it seems like that happens sometimes when making a comment on a live video for some reason.

@@censr1 Daniel, I meant the WWC Baccarat Strategy. Yesterday was brutal but in general I believe we have shown it wins $250 more often than it loses $1000, but like all strategies, it really depends on the dice. I think like Waylon says, the only way to be a consistent winner in a casino as a craps player, is to not play!

@@dynjarren8355 yeah I don't know if it is the "worst" but it is way up there on the gambling things one should not do for sure. I think there is something in human nature, and one the Casinos literally bank on, that makes us want to get our monetary losses back, and chasing is perceived as a way to do that quickly. I belive the first person I remember saying, "Win Fast, Lose Fast" was Charlie from DGE. It is a hard, and could be an expensive, lesson to learn, but it is an important one! Thanks for commenting.

Hey Dyn! I agree the back and forth strats do get tedious. I do really appreciate Waylon feeding us with lots of strategies to try. It is up to us to find the true gems, i.e. the ones that can ride out the variance better than others. Thanks for watching.

Jerry, sorry, I didn't do the "Craps on a Budget" strategy justice, it seems to be a winner based on how Professor Profit rolled it out, it was my Craps incompetence that made it boring. Have you tried this one out? It is challenging to play on WinCraps too but fun on Crapsee! Good luck.

@@cryptoaddictive5008 Sorry, that was embarrassing...

As usual DrDP1, your cryptic responses leave me scratching my head! I hope you had a nice 4th and that you have a relaxing weekend too.

@@pair-a-dicecraps8618 me no cryptic ,,,,,,me is ddp1

I try not to be swayed by "shiny object" syndrome when it comes to strategies. As far as the WWC Line Baccarat, we had already rolled it out for 30 sessions and it proved itself to be a winner, so those first few wipeouts, although not fun, I chalk up to the variance stacking up at the beginning. We will see where we land after 30 sessions. To me all that means is that you need a larger overall starting bankroll, say $5k, in order to whether a string of early losses of the $1k session bankrolls. On the other hand, yes, there are some strategies that I feel have a significantly bad mathematical probability that I will discard them after a few consecutive losses, maybe I shouldn't but I do...

@@cryptoaddictive5008 Thank you CA, hope you have a great weekend too!

@@robertstoneking1909 Thanks for confirming that, oh well.

@@cryptoaddictive5008 i love the game but I think it would be more "fun" playing it like Eat, Sleep, Gamble, Repeat, $10 a session....

Yes it did work out in todays session where I would have lost 2 direct Lays. I need to think about this some more and consider what you are saying. I guess that since we are already Laying 2:1 plus the 5% Vig we are basically at a 5% disadvantage to the House, is that the point you are making?

@@Scott.Mariani basically yes. The reduced payout of getting $1 for every $2 comepensatea for that 2:1 advantage. On factor in Vig. So for every loss you have to win twice. Which is what the math says. And you have to have paid 3 vigs. With the lay odds, it’s even. You will win 2 more times then you lose over the long run and it will be net 0.

Thanks IPTV, I did not realize how much losing those lays was hurting the strategy. I will stop doing that immediately.

@@pair-a-dicecraps8618 no worries. You can hedge if you so choose but you need a much larger bankroll, not only because of the amounts of the lays but now since you lost a lot, you have to jump up several wrungs on the ladder. To show why it’s not working. Take a point of 4 and we are on the pass (for $100). You would lay $200 with a $5 vig. Say a 7 does come. You only lost $5 with the hedge and without hedge you would have lost $100. So a $95 difference. Now say a 4 does come. You would lose $205 and win $100. So a net loss of $105 but without the hedge you won $100. Which is a difference of $205. You’re trading the opportunity to save $95 by risking $205. Doesn’t make sense.

You are correct, I was tired yesterday and should not have been playing 😢

@@pair-a-dicecraps8618 u do good job 99.9 take a rest gg DDDD GGGG EEEE gggg

@@drdontpassone8164 its that 0.1% that is soon hard to achieve! Thanks.

@@drdontpassone8164 Huh? If that is what you hear, you are listening to the wrong radio station!

@@pair-a-dicecraps8618 saw it on a billboard near the orleans lv last weekend

Easy, hit the "Mute" button or don't waste your time watching my videos!

Thanks Anthony. I think over multiple sessions we might see better results with not working the CO but who knows...

@pair-a-dicecraps8618 No, you're right. We would need multiple sessions to know. And even then, 30 sessions will only give you a glimpse.

@@pair-a-dicecraps8618I agree I never work the come out. Just was testing the betting system as is before making tweaks. Those multiple come out 7s can kill you

DGE, Dge, DGe, dGe, dge....

You had a long streak of consecutive winners until you decided to make it an official 30 session test. Truthfully, 40 units is not enough to run it at the quarter level. Even someone who plays a game with an advantage will experience negative variance. This may just be one of those periods of negative variance.

He’s trying to practice like he plays and he doesn’t play with a large enough bankroll even if he did want to play DGE style.

@@bam3051 doesnt have to go full dge ...can incorporate lots of dge principles into his current game that are big improvemets to some of current moves ... that is my point. some of current moves -- justBAD MATH''math dont lie'' thanks bammer

@@bam3051 you are right, and I still feel like I had a lot of winners on Wincraps to more than make up for the loses, its just not as much fun starting in a hole. I will bring some cheese for my whine at tomorrow's Crappy Hour. I will be trying on Waylons 4/10 Ladder with protection, what could go wrong?, earlier in the day. Thanks for the reality check BAM, I appreciate it.

Use a $500 bankroll

Thanks IPTV, I will keep a closer eye on the rack tomorrow. I didn't realize how quickly it recovers.

Hey Red Eye, sorry I missed you!

Yw brother

Ok, that would work better at this level but I experienced similar swings at $25, but that was with an underfunded br @$1000. Gotta have a realistic win goal and have the proper size bankroll for the base unit, always! Do you really think this is better than the WWC PL/DP Baccarat? Could you roll out the "Up $100" using the Baccarat approach? I definitely like the line over the lay.

​@@pair-a-dicecraps8618Oh yeah I definitely love the Baccarat line with the up by 100 betting method! I'll do a video on it! It's to much of a grind with the lay betting because of the shitty payouts 1:2

Waylon your right works a lot better with a 10.00 goal level

@@cryptoaddictive5008 yeah it's pretty much the same as starting with 25$ with 100$ goal

Yeah, not really representative of how I would play in a real Casino at all...

Hmm, I wonder where IPTV came up with the 2.4%. The 5% is just the cost of playing with the house based on the wager it doesn't reflect the probability of winning or losing your bet.

I found a reference to the 2.44% house edge for the Lay 4/10 but did not see anything about vig up front or not. It makes sense that that should be factored in since the house edge is based on losing where it would be taken if paid up front. Wizard of odds talks about the wager having only a 0.76% house edge but a resolved bet, I am guessing a loss, has a house edge of 3.03% which kind of makes sense that the vig would significantly increase their edge and the reason they charge it, there is only one bank in the casino, and the player is not it! So those few casinos that do not take the vig up front on a Lay, those are the ones to play this type of strategy at for sure!

@@pair-a-dicecraps8618 So if you play the odds behind your bet on the pass or don’t pass there is no house edge, it’s the only truly fair wager in the casino and the basis for recommending you take max odds, because that dilutes the house edge on the line bet. On the lay side you can dilute it a little bit by placing amounts in the middle (lay 5/9 for 75 pays 50 but you only pay $2 vig which is really 4% rather than 2.50 for 5%). So if they didn’t take a vig on lay bets there would be no house edge, they get their edge by charging the 5% commission. At least that’s the way I understand it but I’m not a math scientist.

@@pair-a-dicecraps8618 On 4 or 10, commission on winners only, the house edge is 1.67 percent. On 5 or 9, commission on winners only, the house edge is 2 percent. On 6 or 8, commission on winners only, the house edge is 2.27 percent.

I agree with only playing at casinos that only take the vig on the win & not up front especially when playing long sessions. Most of my play is lay bets so I play mainly at MGM casinos in Vegas. In Blackhawk Colorado I have one Caesers property casino Horseshoe that only takes the vig on the win so I play there the most, also roll to win & bubble craps the lay bets are the same on those too. If doing a hit & run occasionally I will play where the vig is taken up front but as I said for long sessions you'll lose a lot of vig.