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Hey there! 4" brackets are obviously more drop, so more leverage. On that amount of drop in extreme use situations, yes a brace should be applied. I have not seen an issue even in high speed desert racing situations with the 2" drop brackets since they don't have nearly the force on the engine cradle. The overall solution is an drop engine cradle that eliminates the need for TTB drop brackets, like the big Pre Runner Ford trucks use of the 80-97 era in Norra, Baja, Score racing etc. This is a budget friendly solution to get alignment right, not the 5k full out competition option. A brace may be an option down the road, I just don't see 99.99% of people doing this ever needing it.

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@SkysOffroadDesign just ordered a pair...Thank you!

We add a large crossmember / spring hanger up front. Nothing else is needed.

It's not necessary, I really didn't need to in this case, but I'd rather have my axle 1/4" further forward than 1/2" further back.

@@SkysOffroadDesign Has Sky’s ever considered making longer than stock front and rear spring pads with pre drilled holes for this situation? I think the extra length in the pad could help control the axle. Thanks for the reply and good video.

@@TorturedWitt no, I don't see any need to cut off the spring perches and weld new ones on. The axle is still well supported, and under control.

@@SkysOffroadDesign Okay, thank you for all of the great feedback. 👍👍

We actually have something VERY cool for Toyotas in the works right now. We've got one on Clancy's 5VZ-R150F-Dual Case 4Runner (the one in this video) and one on Sky's 22RE-W56-Dual Case 4Runner. That's the final stage of R&D, real world use.

I've got something reallllly cool for Toyotas in the works right now. Parts are on Sky and My 4Runners getting real world testing.

There are options. You can redrill superduty rotors, or like in our application we're using Spidertrax rotors and Willwood calipers.

Tom--We will look forward to talking to you!

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The only time I've seen someone unhappy with the ride quality of this kit was with aftermarket springs that either didn't have the correct spring rate, or had a poor shackle angle.

@@SkysOffroadDesigncould be. Took it to off road warehouse had them source the springs and put them on with your reverse kit. Certainly you would no more than I would about your product. It helped a little but not much with the setup I have.

@@Mondo888 What does the shackle angle look like? We prefer to use OEM V-code springs in the superduty kit. You can still get them new from Ford for about the same price as getting foreign junk shipped from the internet.

@@SkysOffroadDesign I can send you a picture of it if that helps. Maybe the entire thing is wrong and if so I’d be more than happy to get it fixed. Pretty sure springs are not Ford manufactured.

rears up from is mint, 4" lift springs from Skys is also MINT!

Do Those 3f springs from sky’s work with the sas they offer? Will drilling the holes in the recommended spot for the shackles be correct with those springs?

They have 2 different kits, one specifically for the 92-97 factory springs, and one kit for using superduty springs

Hello, we do make a kit that will retain your OBS springs, but the minimum lift with a shackle reversal is going to be 2". What I would recommend to keep your 6" lift is this FSRSD kit with 4" Revtek springs. You will still be at 6" and ride much better. Thank you,

Hello, This particular kit is designed to swap in the better riding 99-04 Super Duty leaf springs into a 92-97 F250/F350. But we do have a kit for your truck. www.skysoffroaddesign.com/collections/85-91-f-250-350-front-suspension/products/ford-fsrob-002 That kit uses your factory leaf springs and can work with the TTB Dana 50 front axle with the addition of some TTB pivot drop brackets. It is designed for the 85-91 as well. thank you,

It's not designed specifically for that chassis, so it may need a spacer here and there to fit properly. We've had people with 2wd F250/F350 and 85-91 trucks install this kit, and while the holes aren't there to locate the brackets on the 2wd they were able to make it work. The 85-91 works just the same as the 92-97, it just needs a 1/4 spacer for one of the bolts on the panhard bracket. So yes I'm sure you could make it work if you're comfortable with a bit of fabrication. It won't just be bolt on.

@@SkysOffroadDesign Thanks for the information! I figured it would take some work to get in there but wanted some sense for if it was possible with modification.

Yes