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Ya there shot guns are garbage too

I was looking at one of these, thanks you saving me money and aggravation. I’ll stick with my $600 CZ ALPHA 600 in 300WM that shoots 3/4 moa all day long with my 175Barnes LRX hand loads.

Junk. You spent wayyy too much on this riffle. I had to return my 6.5 PRC 4 times. Never again. If anyone out there wants to try them out, my suggestion would be DO NOT , buy a Bergara, way point, Christensen, seekins, etc.

I purchased a 300RUM same rifle otherwise. Shot groups were inconsistent as well. I traced the problem back to the scope mount. I went through 2 sets, scope was slipping due to recoil inertia. Put a Spuhr mount on problems went away.

Thanks for the heads up I will not be pulling the trigger lol on the Fierce rifle.

Always hate to see issues like this happen to anyone, but they do and will happen with all guns. I own two Fierce CT EDGE and Carbon Fury in 6.5 PRC both are 1/2 to 1/4 MOA all day long. I also have Browning, Winchester, Remington, In several calibers that shoot good as well. My CT Edge had a problem with bullet sticking inside the bore after I first got it; I called and talked with John he asked me to send the rifle to him and how I-shipped to him he would ship back the same way. I was called back and was told that they found and fixed the problem, I believe it had something to do with the reaming. Long story short got it back never had another problem, shoots lights out, and harvested many hogs and deer! That was 4.5 years ago. Thanks John and Cody! For what this is worth I will say you don’t make the best rifles; no one does, but you make an awesome rifle; that shoots well for me! Thanks again!

Report them to BBB

But you do have BBB

That last group you shot is a sign of barrel touching stock. Have you tried bedding stock ?

Don't believe anything fierce says ! I have one of there rifles hanging up to remind me of what junk. And if your shoots I'm glad for you.

Thanks for posting this, I was just about to buy a Fierce rifle and found this during my research. I am not so much concerned you got a lemon as to how you were treated. Cheers.

I think that barrel has some stress in it, either from the machining process, or from straitening it. You may want to see if someone near you can cryo it. If there are any custom barrel makers around, they may have a cryo vat.

Thanks for saving me the money lol

What barrel was on this gun?

Same problem I have with a Fierce Rival 7PRC

Im also on the list of disappointed customers. I have been trying to get my CT carbon rogue to shoot for months. I have hand loaded a combination of 3 bullets, 4 powders, and 6 factory loads. It hates them all. I have not asked them to fix it yet, but after watching this video, I think I can likely skip to the next chapter and just sell the darn thing.

I've developed loads for OTC rifles and had .78 and .82 w/ 5 shot groups after epoxy bedding the actions. I did fire about every minute and then let it cool down completely before another 5 shot group with a different powder charge. I expected more from your semi-custom rifle. You put a bunch of time, money, and effort into working out the kinks. I hoped you would find the sweet spot.

Heat should not affect the barrel that much. Is it floated or bedded action? Did the scope come with it for $2,300?

I have a few good friends been struggling as this video, after scope was resecurded, correct break-in, cleaning etc. Its still unable to hold group where needed. It was just pulled apart for good cleaning and inspection to find reciever/action is moving in stock bedding. His guided Elk hunt in jeopardy so they are rebedding action their self ...,be at range to test this weekend weather permitting. Thanks for posting this video it helps with the issues of heat also. 7mmprc

i have an exact problem with my Fierce Carbon Rival FP. I emailed about the issue and they told me again $200 to test ammo. Im glad i see this video before putting more money into the riffle. I wish you publised this video sooner. I would not buy anything from them and will spread the words. I wont even sell my riffle, I will be bad for the next person. I will carry it to the gun range every week and let it sit there for a discussion. This company can not produce quality riffle at all.

Have a fierce carbon rival in 300 wsm. After about 60 shots (trying to shrink my groups under 1moa with different loads) the extractor broke off. Sent it back to fierce for repair and it took 2 months to get back. After another 80-100 shots the same thing happened. Took it to a gunsmith because I didn’t want to want to wait 2 months. It has never shot under a 1.2 moa group after trying 6 different bullets/loads. It looks cool in my safe though which is where it will stay. My $800 tikka is always at or under 1 moa.

Guess it depends on what you can recover out of selling it. I've looked at Fierce, Christiansen, Kimber, Nosler, and a few other higher end US guns, couldn't justify them. I have some US guns I bought over time that did work well, had just as many that didn't. European or Japanese builds have not disappointed me, some of them were a lot more money, but worth every penny of it, and I got what I wanted in some cases, where US builds were not available.

The barrel is junk Should not have rust and pitting. Very poor customer service. Thanks for the heads up. One not to buy

Great video. Too many great rifles out there to put up with that nonsense! My bone stock Tikka in 6.5x55 shoots WAY better!

Fierce makes garbage rifles to go along with terrible customer service, I have several friends that purchased one and sold them quickly there after. Christensen is in the same boat, take that $2100 go to a pawn shop or local gun store find an old Model 70 or Rem 700 spend $400 on a Bartlein barrel take it to reputable rifle smith have it properly chambered and action blueprinted and it will shoot like a house on fire. Check out Kevin Weaver in Colorado Springs he builds hammers!

I have the Fierce Rival XP. Had major issues with it and lost hope. But then…. Pulled it back out of the safe, changed my scope, and my muzzle break. When the barrel is 90 degrees or below, it shoots like a charm. Anything above 90 is erratic. That’s been my experience…

UPDATE: Cody from Fierce commented on this video in order to make sure Fierce's position was represented. Here's an excerpt: "The offer still stands that was presented to Hunting Dad. The offer that was presented, was to get the rifle in to our facility and check it out for any issues, on our dime. The first email I sent in response included a prepaid shipping label for Hunting Dad to use to send the rifle back in. The only point I wanted to make, is that we wanted the rifle in our possession to examine and test it before any decision was made. Once we had the rifle and was able to examine and test it, then we could have a conversation based on those results. I am still happy to work with Hunting Dad on his rifle, the label I sent is still valid and may be used to ship the rifle to us on our dime." I mentioned this response at the end of the video. My issue with it was that, while they were willing to pay for shipping to their facility, they weren't willing to promise not to charge me for their time and shipping back from their facility. I had every reason to believe that my rifle would pass their tests (as it had twice before) and if it did, I would be on the hook for another $200 or so. So, I told them that I'd be happy to ship it back if they agreed to 1) not charge me any more money and 2) adjust their tests to accommodate the issues I identified. I thought this was fair and a great opportunity for Fierce to satisfy an unhappy customer and incorporate some free product research. Cody's response: "...we cannot find common ground here. We will not be able to meet the requirements you have presented." He changed his tune after this video started getting some traction. Cody commented again, to say, "If you want to take down the video, I will issue you a refund as you wanted previously. Let me know." $2,100 is a lot of money, but not enough to buy my soul. I decided to keep the video up.

I can tell you this, I would have not put forth the effort you did.... I would have sent rifle back 1st time (like you did), then either A: sold it. or B: rebarreled it. Pretty sure I would have sold it right then and there. I was thinking about obtaining one of these (carbon barrel) and I had a gut feeling saying "stay away" and boy I'm glad I watched this video.

You Sir have a $2,000 paper weight.

Fierce has a reputation for being absolute garbage. You are not alone

Good dad raising a good kid. Funny how that happens, isn't it? Great video, dad.

Yes owners and fierce rifles couple clowns

What a disgrace on fierce , good on you though bro. As a new person to the shooting range, these videos help me with what to buy ( and not, what to buy). Thank you so much for your hard work.

Over priced marketing gimmick rifles.. I’ll stick to my Browning X-bolts.

Really impressed as to how far you went to get it to shoot. I'm a small shop gunsmith in PA. If you still have the rifle and would like it to shoot I would love to rebarrel it wit a good bartlien or kreiger barrel and do a proper pillar bed job on that stock and check the tolerances in ther actions I'm sure it would shoot. If your interested in any of this Google HD Precision Gunsmithing in Carlisle PA give me a call we can talk it over

Thank you for this! First, ditch that sled. Use sandbags or bipod. I had the EXACT issues you are having but with a Christiansen carbon barrel rifle. Christiansen replaced the barrel within a few weeks, paid for all shipping, and it shoots sub 1/2” MOA consistently now. Your video has definitely put the brakes on me buying a Fierce and now leaning more towards a Proof Research complete build. This video and the most importantly the response by Fierce in this forum has 1000% steered me away from them. Should've refunded the man and you wouldn't be getting all this negative exposure.

Súper disappointed in Fierce. You’re a smart and honest guy who spent 9 months working the problem. They should’ve made it right. Thanks for helping the rest of us cross them off our list.

Thank you so much for you video. I was thinking about purchasing the same rifle. Now I would like to stay away from Fierce. I hope your next rifle will make you happy!

When you use barrel blanks with stress in them you get movement on target. When you dont bed the action you get movement on target. You have both. Also the chambers are done in high production on a cnc and they dont test fire them for groups...

And a $500 Ruger American will stack bullets! Can own 4 of them for 1 Fierce

I’m having the same problem with a fierce carbon rogue also bought based on backfire’s recommendation. I am not happy with this rifle what so ever. They brag about in-house barrel manufacturing but they should either stop bragging or stop making their own barrels.

I conducted a test with 4 of my buddies, three 300 PRC’s and a 300 win mag. Hand loads, factory ammo, different bullets and different skill levels among us. I used brain Litz’s top gun theory to predict their group size, made them all shoot a 10 shot group with as much cooling as they wanted (it took a long time) and boy did everyone’s guns not shoot the way they claimed and worked out really close to the top gun theory, the smallest group was 1.5” from a rifle that shot “0.5 MOA” 😂

man after reading a lot of these comment all of us guys that have bought 400 dollar scope include rugers that consentingly .50 moa out of the box shot after shot with no barrel cooling time got a bargain

Wonder what kind of barrels they are using ?

Seems most of the factory/custom rifles are not great. Heard multiple complaints on Christensen, Fierce etc.

Very good and honest review

Sorry for your losses sometimes it is hard to really know what you are getting before buying the gun

damn i have a carbon rival .300 prc and the barrel was beautiful inside and shots nice

When you see a chamber and throat area that looks that pitted and neglected it will NEVER shoot. The barrel has been damaged. And next when you requested and received a new barrel that was in similar condition....? That tells you who you are dealing with. You can go broke trying to make something shoot that will never shoot well. And damage your brain through frustration. Let it go. Save your pennies and have a rifle built by a known gunsmith with a good reputation. Eliminate all of the variables from the start.

Have you tried changing the torque on the action screws to see if it changes your groups? The inconsistency leads me to believe something on the rifle is moving or there is uneven pressure on your action or barrel in the stock. Bedding the action would probably help, too. The expansion of the barrel under heat might be causing something in the stock to touch.