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Troubleshooting and repairing modern and vintage electronics, electronic tech tips and how-to, projects, tech talk, and more.
IFR (Marconi) 2186 Programmable Attenuator Repair
Let's find out why this IFR 2186 programmable RF attenuator is not working properly and what needs to be done to repair it. Also a look at how the attenuator works and how to measure the internal attenuators with a spectrum analyzer or an ohm meter. As a final test, let's see how to verify that the full 130 dB attenuation is working using the HP 3585A.
This attenuator model is the same as the Marconi and Aeroflex 2186.
#electronicsrepair #testequipment #learnelectronics
This attenuator model is the same as the Marconi and Aeroflex 2186.
#electronicsrepair #testequipment #learnelectronics
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TDI Electronic Load DLP 50-60-1000A Troubleshoot & Repair
Просмотров 2 тыс.21 день назад
Let's get this recently purchased Transistor Devices Inc. 1000 watt electronic load (Dynaload) back to working condition. See what components failed and how to replace them plus a look at the schematic relating to the failed parts. Some overview of the Dynaload's features are also discussed and a final test is run on the unit. #electronicsrepair #learnelectronics #testequipment
Repair And Calibration HP 8561E Spectrum Analyzer - Part 2
Просмотров 1,1 тыс.Месяц назад
The replacement part arrived so let's continue the Hewlett Packard 8561E 30 Hz - 6.5 GHz spectrum analyzer repair and then calibrate the portion of the instrument with the replaced part. A quick discussion about understanding dBm measurements is also covered. Part 1 ruclips.net/video/gQDG6wdf-KI/видео.html #electronicsrepair #spectrumanalyzer #hewlettpackard
Fermitek Power Inverter Follow Up
Просмотров 1,9 тыс.Месяц назад
A follow up to the original video. Circuit details figured out and an adjustment to the inverter frequency plus an unusual 600 volt circuit. Original video ruclips.net/video/pMrBnLC1FQo/видео.html #inverter #electronicsrepair #learnelectronics
Old Style Power Inverter - Does It Work?
Просмотров 4,1 тыс.Месяц назад
Will this heavy old military surplus power inverter work? Let's check it out and try to power it up. Check out the follow up video too ruclips.net/video/Q2KF4k_8daE/видео.html #inverter #learnelectronics #militarysurplus
Troubleshoot And Repair HP 8561E Spectrum Analyzer - Part 1
Просмотров 2,1 тыс.Месяц назад
Let's find out why the displayed signal is not accurate on this Hewlett Packard 8561E 30 Hz - 6.5 GHz spectrum analyzer. #electronicsrepair #spectrumanalyzer #hewlettpackard This instrument was the subject of a previous video ruclips.net/video/ZhOr00LZ-eU/видео.html
TEAC A-3440 Reel to Reel Tape Machine Repair
Просмотров 1,4 тыс.2 месяца назад
Let's get this TEAC A-3440 reel to reel tape machine with a mechanical problem working again. For viewers not familiar with reel to reel tape machines a quick overview is also discussed before the repair is started. Jump to 9:30 to start the repair diagnosis. #vintageaudiorepair #electronicsrepair #reeltoreel
PS-30LAB DC Power Supply Troubleshoot And Repair
Просмотров 6 тыс.2 месяца назад
Follow as Erik troubleshoots this bench DC power supply to find out what made it suddenly stop working after 20 years of use. Electronics tech tips, replacement component selection, how-to info, plus an overview of how the power supply functions, and a load test on the repaired power supply. #powersupply #electronicsrepair #learnelectronics
Vintage Audio - Spectro Acoustics 210 Equalizer Repair
Просмотров 9523 месяца назад
Follow along as I troubleshoot, repair, and test this Spectro Acoustics model 210 audio equalizer. #vintageaudio #electronicsrepair #learnelectronics
Lambda MML 400 Switch Mode Power Supply Troubleshooting And Repair
Просмотров 3,4 тыс.4 месяца назад
Follow along on this troubleshooting and repair adventure of a Lambda Omega MML 400 switch mode DC power supply (SMPS). No schematics are available so let's see what it takes to track down the problem. #powersupply #electronicsrepair #learnelectronics
Tech Talk - How The MEP-002A / 003A Generator AC Voltage Regulator Works
Просмотров 8395 месяцев назад
In this tech talk video let's look at the unusual AC voltage regulation system on the military MEP-002A and MEP-003A generator sets and clear up some mysteries about how it functions. I'll explain how the unusual magnetic amplifier works and how it is used in this regulator system. #generator #electronics #techtalk
Simpson 260 VOM Troubleshoot And Repair - Part 2
Просмотров 1,8 тыс.5 месяцев назад
Follow along as Erik troubleshoots and tests this vintage Simpson 260 - Series 4 VOM with a problem on the DC volt ranges. Part 1 video ruclips.net/video/ia1peeyx52A/видео.html #testequipment #electronicsrepair #learnelectronics
Simpson 260 VOM Troubleshoot And Repair - Part 1
Просмотров 3,2 тыс.5 месяцев назад
Follow along as Erik troubleshoots this Simpson 260 - Series 4 VOM with a problem on the DC volt ranges. A look at the schematic is also included. #testequipment #electronicsrepair #learnelectronics
Tech Talk - What Is A Ghost Voltage And How To Test It
Просмотров 6 тыс.5 месяцев назад
Tech Talk at Erik's Electronics Workbench. What is a ghost or phantom voltage and how do you test it? How can you tell if it is a ghost voltage or not? Follow along as Erik explains the details. #learnelectronics #electronics #techtalk
Let's Make This 1940's GE 250 Vacuum Tube Radio Work
Просмотров 1,1 тыс.5 месяцев назад
The General Electric 250, a portable vacuum tube radio from the mid 1940's. See what repairs are needed to make it function again. The wiring schematic and theory of operation are also discussed. #vintageradio #vacuumtube #electronicsrepair
Apt Corp. Holman Preamplifier Repair And Test
Просмотров 3 тыс.7 месяцев назад
Apt Corp. Holman Preamplifier Repair And Test
Weston Instruments 432 Wattmeter Teardown And Repair
Просмотров 8788 месяцев назад
Weston Instruments 432 Wattmeter Teardown And Repair
Atlas Sound CP400 Audio Amplifier Troubleshoot, Repair, And Test
Просмотров 5 тыс.9 месяцев назад
Atlas Sound CP400 Audio Amplifier Troubleshoot, Repair, And Test
Troubleshoot And Repair This ADCOM GFP-1A Stereo Preamp - Part 2
Просмотров 2 тыс.10 месяцев назад
Troubleshoot And Repair This ADCOM GFP-1A Stereo Preamp - Part 2
Troubleshoot And Repair This ADCOM GFP-1A Stereo Preamp - Part 1
Просмотров 3,3 тыс.10 месяцев назад
Troubleshoot And Repair This ADCOM GFP-1A Stereo Preamp - Part 1
Agilent 6812B AC Power Source Disassembly, Repair, and Test
Просмотров 4,1 тыс.11 месяцев назад
Agilent 6812B AC Power Source Disassembly, Repair, and Test
Fluke 199C Scopemeter Teardown and Repair A Noisy Fan
Просмотров 1,5 тыс.Год назад
Fluke 199C Scopemeter Teardown and Repair A Noisy Fan
HP 8561E Spectrum Analyzer Teardown, Repair, Modification, And Test
Просмотров 6 тыс.Год назад
HP 8561E Spectrum Analyzer Teardown, Repair, Modification, And Test
Troubleshoot And Repair This ADCOM GFA-555se Audio Amplifier
Просмотров 12 тыс.Год назад
Troubleshoot And Repair This ADCOM GFA-555se Audio Amplifier
Stanford Research Systems DS340 Function Generator Repair
Просмотров 1,1 тыс.Год назад
Stanford Research Systems DS340 Function Generator Repair
PP-4763A 28 Volt 50 Amp DC Power Supply Repair
Просмотров 1,9 тыс.Год назад
PP-4763A 28 Volt 50 Amp DC Power Supply Repair
Proton D940 Stereo Receiver Repair - part 2
Просмотров 1,6 тыс.Год назад
Proton D940 Stereo Receiver Repair - part 2
Proton D940 Stereo Receiver Repair - part 1
Просмотров 2,7 тыс.Год назад
Proton D940 Stereo Receiver Repair - part 1
Kepco ABC 25-4DM Switch Mode DC Power Supply Repair and Test
Просмотров 3,4 тыс.Год назад
Kepco ABC 25-4DM Switch Mode DC Power Supply Repair and Test
How An Isolated Dim Bulb Tester Works (Current Limited Isolation Transformer And VARIAC)
Просмотров 25 тыс.Год назад
How An Isolated Dim Bulb Tester Works (Current Limited Isolation Transformer And VARIAC)
An Adcom needs a repair. Really. This is such a rare case.
The kit from N0DY is not avaiable. N0DY is deceased.
That's sad news. I did not know.
Often the switching power supplies require a minimum load on the “main” output. That is the one from where the controller gets its feedback. The other note or guess is that there could be a solder whisker at or under the capacitor that exhibited the low resistance. One more detail. My Dynaload has a current monitoring output from the built-in shunt. Yours is likely to also have one.
Yes some switchers do need a minimum load or they can't regulate properly. The data sheet for this model says that for less than 1 volt regulated output you need at least 500 mA. So for typical use at higher voltages as marked on the modules a minimum load isn't needed. Certain types of ceramic surface mount caps are prone to failing from stress as it cracks them or damages the structure since they have no flexible leads. There are surface mount caps designed to take flexing stress probably not what was used here. Yes the Dynaload has a current sample output. I recently did a video on another Dynaload model that needed repair ..you may be interested in seeing that.
Nice video ❤ thanks
Glad you enjoyed it, thanks for watching!
36:48 - odd values, I wonder why they did not use 2^n and start with 0.25 dB, that would with the same 10 relays give up to 255 dB in 0.5 dB steps. Or is more than 20 dB attenuator in one step just too hard to make ?
I think the values are chosen for what makes the most useable attenuation range. 0.25 dB would require the two top T configuration resistors to be 719.51 milliOhms perhaps more difficult (or costly) to make such small value of resistance? Also going up to 255 dB is such a huge attenuation it is not useful at low RF levels. This attenuator is 1 watt max. As it is 130 dB is down to fraction of a microvolt.
Thanks fo the video!
You're welcome and thanks for watching!
I have the Adcom GFA5500. The amp seems to function fine except when I power it off - I get a low pop on the right speaker and the actual cone of the speaker moves out when this occurs. Anyone have any idea if this is dangerous or not?
It's normal for the GFA5500 to pop when powering off. There is no speaker protection relay so the speakers are connected to the output stage at all times. As the power supply rails collapse the amp becomes unstable and a short pulse of voltage is applied to the speakers. It is not damaging, and the voltage is less than what the speaker is subjected to when playing loud music.
@@EriksElectronicsWorkbench Thank you. Maybe I should clarify. The pop I referred to is more of a "whumph" (not loud but audible). The cone movement is quite noticeable and, as I mentioned, the event is only on one speaker. Your assessment is probably correct and there is nothing to worry about but I am going to sell this amp and do not want to pass on a faulty product. I'll see if there is a local expert on this amp. For now I am using a Schiit amp and I am very pleased with it. Much thanks!!!!!!
@@charlesclifton5896 I would check the amp for meeting rated output power, no distortion issues, etc and if all looks good then the turn off thump is not a concern and for whatever reason the one channel is just more prone to it. Agree good idea to have it tested to be on the safe side.
This was an absolute master class, thank you for sharing.
I appreciated the compliment! Glad the video was helpful for you.
Hi Erik, I tried your biasing method on my GFA-555 II but couldn't hold down a stable reading like you did, could you tell me what are the usual cause for this to happen? thanks and hope you can help. love you channel.
If the unstable readings are happening on both channels I suspect the issue is with the meter or probes you are using, perhaps picking up noise as the meter is trying to measure in the millivolts range. Keep sources of noise like switch mode power supplies away from the test area. The bias potentiometers may be dirty and making poor connection. The AC line voltage could be varying excessively. If just one channel bias is unstable it could be its bias pot, or a defective transistor. Make sure the transistors are securely attached to the heatsinks and with thermal paste. Look for broken solder connections on the power transistors and emitter resistors. Heating and cooling over years can stress the solder joints. I hope these ideas help. And thanks for watching!
@@EriksElectronicsWorkbench I tried it with the clip type this time but still no luck, I got all zeros with every range setting. Perhaps I have a different/earlier version of the GFA 555 II with different bias points and 1800VA at the AC input whereas the later version has 1440VA, don't know what that means but that's the different I've spotted. That may sound unlikely but I just can't think of why am I not getting any meaningful reading. Anyway, thank you so much Erik.
@@georgeho8997 The bias is taken across an emitter resistor. The upper resistors are easier to reach. You don't have to use the test points, technically, to read the bias as any of the resistors will give a reading. You may not have bias due to a fault thus no voltage reading. The bias pots are very sensitive to adjustment. No bias will result in cross over distortion. Excessive bias will make the amp run hot or even blow a fuse. Make sure your meter is on DC millivolts, not AC volts. The VA rating is not related to the bias, that's just the AC power consumption under full load.
@@EriksElectronicsWorkbench What might be the reason for the problem if there is a fault like this?
@@georgeho8997 if there is no bias voltage it could be a bad bias potentiometer, bad bias transistor on heatsink, a bad transistor or component in the preceding stages. Just some general ideas. If you have no bias reading on both channels look at your meter setup and the test points you are using as it would be unusual to lose bias on both channels.
Aren`t the original 2N3055 in the unit likely to be 2N3055H style types (hometaxial), while the modern ON types are likely to be epitaxial types (with completely different specs, especially being too fast for designs that rely on the hometaxial type, and a less tolerant SOA curve)? .. Could the blue dots be so kind of thermochromic paint?
The very early 1960's RCA 2N3055 were hometaxial with a considerably lower transition frequency, but that process was changed to epitaxial many years prior to when these were made (these are dated in the mid 80's). There was a special H version but would be marked as such on the device. I have never seen a temperature sensitive paint on transistors, although not a bad idea for monitoring purposes, I've only seen colored markings for matching identification.
excellent sir, thank you
Glad the video was helpful, thanks for watching!
For what it's worth - that dark red/brown material you pointed out on those adjustable components is called GLYPTOL. Once the component is properly adjusted the GLYPTOL is painted on and when dry locks the part in place.
I have a can of Glyptol that was given to me, unused still. I didn't think about the possibility that Glyptol was used on the trimmer pots. Thanks for mentioning.
Sounds like an apc back u.Ps
External modulation actually means remote control 10 amps per volt ? because nothing is being modulated in the traditional sense I think ? great video !
Thanks for watching! The external modulation could be thought of as a remote control input. The DC load coarse and fine controls become a gain control for the external signal. At full gain, 6 volts DC in will allow 60 amps or up to the current/power limit for voltages over 16.66 volts. I tested inputs of sine and square waves to 20 KHz and the dynaload responded correctly. Other waveforms could be used too and you can modulate on top of a continuous current.
@@EriksElectronicsWorkbench Thanks :)
I would think the transistors are matched to base/emitter voltages, rather than beta. That is what matters more in the parallel connection.
The new 2N3055 transistors all tested base-emitter voltage range of 0.631 +.004 / -0.000 volt @ base current 5ma so all were well matched in that regard.
Don't you have a thermal imaging camera? I know it is cheaper to use the fingers, but it's 2024...
Calibrated fingers with mil spec temperature specification don`t come cheap :)
What a wonderfull device, wish I had one on my bench. 👌
Definitely useful to have!
Please can i get a copy of the schematics ?
There is a PDF download here with a schematic but it is not the best scan bee.mif.pg.gda.pl/ciasteczkowypotwor/dynaload/Dynaload%20DLP50-60-1000%20Intruction.pdf I can take a scan of my schematic just email me (address in about this channel section) and I will reply back. Note there are some minor changes in the newer version models from the original schematic mostly in the pulse generator circuit and I don't have the newest schematic version.
@@EriksElectronicsWorkbench Than you.
200+ hfe for 2N3055? Look in datasheet and 100 is maximun (considering error). These transistors are suspicious
As was mentioned in the video the hfe is higher than the data sheet value because they are tested at very low current levels on the transistor tester. The hfe on the data sheet is when tested at several amps.
Looks like a great piece of kit. I'm currently designing and building a very similar device (with higher ratings) as a University Project. It's reassuring to see how many of the same design choices are present in this 40 year old tech as my designs. I was worried about my 8 x power transistors, but having 22 on the Dynaload you've got certainly put those worries to rest haha.
I'm glad the video was helpful and confirmed some things about your design. Yes you can drive many paralleled transistors.
4:54 - intake with fans and out the slot at the bottom rear = that cooling/venting arrangement looks and sounds stupid [particularly if mounted in a rack]; the hot air being blown out the slot and takin back in with the fans! “short-circuit” Did they want it to overheat and burn-out in use/a risk🥵😠
There isn't a place to put the vents elsewhere. Even if the vents were on the sides the air is still circulating within the rack. Top and bottom covers are no good as it's assumed there will be equipment above and below. Probably need to have a cooling fan in the rack to bring in fresh air if this was running at high wattage dissipation. My other DLP series dynaload shown in video has never overheated under extend full power use.
🧐 ~ if I had designed it, the transistors and their heat-sink would be mounted in the top of the unit with the slot having an angled piece of metal “L” in front of it to direct the hot air up (away from the fans) and when off ~ the heat will dissipate through the lid [particularly if mounted on top of the rack] ✅
strange they didnt use mosfets to eliminate thermal runaway mosfets dominated 1980,s pa/disco amps for that reason and they were more robust 400w rms per channel into shorted wiring and they would survive just fine! , i learned a hard lesson about runaway with a home made 0-30v 3a dual psu using a 4x 2n3055 each output on huge fruit machine salvaged heatsinks, not huge enough if charging nicads for hours!
This model was designed in the early 70's and I don't think high power MOSFETS were as common at that time in this type of application. Modern electronic loads almost always use MOSFETS as they are easy to parallel and don't have thermal runaway.
@@EriksElectronicsWorkbench yes didn't think about the design being older than the unit oops
I stopped using the 2N3055 in my designs at the time, because when the collector current went above 5 - 6 Ampere, the Hfe dropped from 30 - 35 to 5 - 3. With Ic = 10 A, Hfe = 3. I switched to the BD142 which had a much better gain curve. Your wonderful dummy load has - very likely - undergone a thermal excursion which degraded the output transistor. Great job!
At 60 amps the transistors pass 3 amps each in this application so the gain is not comprised much. Higher current demands probably would be better to use a different transistor.
Surely if they have emitter resistors that may be easier to see heating up with and IR camera. LOL I should have watched it 1 minute more. I use this method quite often when you have multiple devices on a shorted supply rail.
Many emitter resistors are tucked away under other components so was easier to check all the transistor cases but yes a hot emitter resistor will point you to the fault.
Excellent ! How can I get my gfa 555 2 updated
Check out hoppesbrain.com/category/adcom/ for upgrades, modifications, parts, etc.
29:14 50W extra power dissipation means that the cooling system must be able to handle 50W more. So it's not just like "50W extra nothing wrong with that".
What was meant is the the transistors are not being worked as hard to dissipate power near their specified max limit. It would be like replacing a resistor with one of a higher wattage rating. The component isn't being stressed as much. Nothing was modified in a way to make more power actually dissipated on the transistors. Depending on load current they can run fairly hot.
I worked for Simpson in the late 60's at their facility in Elgin, Illinois. I also met my first wife there. I have a 260 series 5. The only problem is that I can't get the needle to zero out on the Rx1 setting. I would take it back to have it calibrated, but they are gone. I am going to try and locate another location.
On the series 5 it could be R1, R3, or R16 that is out of spec. Or something wrong with the switch contacts in the Rx1 position.
At that time there were better inverters such as Victron Atlas inverters with a higher efficiency
This was built for the military and they have their own way of doing things. Yes other types of inverters existed at the time this was built.
low efficiency might be caused bij the fact that the transformer is driven bij an audio style amplefier to its max voltage output, maybe somewhat clipped at the peak, what makes the noise sound sharper through the extra hormonics produced at tge clipping point.
I wouldn't really compare it to an audio amp style output stage as this uses two SCR's to drive the primary winding. Yes it saturates the transformer and clips the waveform by design.
This thing sure had a lot of problems, are you sure it was working before?
Yes it worked fine for 20 years. I think the power switch was on its way out and I didn't realize it. The fuse holder plastic was old and disturbing it probably made its contacts become intermittent. The fuse was never touched in 20 years. The actual failure was the transistor.
The reason for the 20A NEMA 5-20 receptacle is so extension cords with NEMA 5-20 plugs will fit. Another important reason for the potential marking on the fuseholder cap is cuz those fuseholders were also made for 24V to 32V applications with an incandescent lamp in the cap. Such caps are usually orange or yellow. Made in the mid 1980s as there is a 1983 date code on one of the TO-3 transistors on one of the control boards.
I noticed numerous 83 date codes on IC's and capacitors. Fits with the contract date. Yes I have seen the fuse holders with incandescent bulbs colored as you mention.
Did you look under the lid.? There maybe a schematic label .. Try straightening out the input wires..
No schematic inside the lid. I wish there was.
thanK you for the knowledge
You're most welcome!!
Absolutely fascinating on the way you found the noisy transistor. Never have seen a technique like that used before
19:50 Где можно приобрести такую лампу? Она рассчитана на напряжение частотой 60 Гц и вольтажом 115 В?
You can find them on eBay. The lamp does not care about the frequency. Only the voltage is important. Yes it is made for 115-120 volts, you can use a lower voltage but the current draw is less therefore the power is less. Above 120 volts will shorten the lamp life or even burn it out immediately.
I noticed a bank of 8 large plastic film capacitors between the power transformer and heatsink. I suspect these caps are connected across the 120 volt output to smooth out the SCR pulses, which are probably filled with voltage spikes. I am not sure why SCRs were chosen for the power switching, possibly a spec was driving that design. Power bipolar switching transistors were available when this inverter was designed, making for a better switching device. That power transformer is huge, probably good for 1,000 watts if you run a pure 60 Hz AC sinewave through it. The smaller winding bobbin that is separated from the other bobbin is most likely the 600 volt winding.
The bank of yellow capacitors are on the SCR's and primary transformer side but probably for spike and noise suppression. SCR's are more rugged than transistors and given this was built for the military in harsh use I'm sure that dictated circuit design. It would take many many paralleled transistors to handle the current that just these two SCR's switch. The 600 volt winding is in the large upper part of the windings, that is where the tap is placed and you can see the wire go into the windings.
Looks like a sinewave with lots of even-order harmonics, not exactly a thing you'd want on an inverter, but a sweet waveform for a guitar amp or overdrive pedal.
Odd order harmonics, not even. The transformer would sound a _lot_ angrier if there were even harmonics due to the saturation effects thereof.
G.I. Inverter! All the lovely military electronics... Beauty. 15:18 Mr Carlson's Lab inspired warning? Nice.
The "600 volt" tap is a resonant winding on the transformer to commutate the SCRs on and off to prevent latchup where it is possible they could both switch on together.. This is also the reason there is a short delay in startup to allow the signals to settle.. The high voltage is simply a by product of using a high impedance winding allowing a "smallish" resonating capacitor at these very low frequencies.
Excellent work. I really enjoyed the part where you traced out the path on the schematic. The switches always confused me. I’d love to see more. I’m working on a Simpson 160 and it’s making me nuts lol
Thank you, I'm glad to know you enjoyed the video. Best of luck on your 160!
As I’ve heard, the Americans used this thing in Guantanamo as a torture device. If you have to listen to it for half a day, you’ll sign anything.
Erik! I have a model 205a-03r high voltage power supply. I foolishly switched the polarity while it was still at -400V and now I am not reading any output voltage. The inside looks fine and I cannot find any signs of damaged components. Can I still save it? What can I check?
If your model is similar in design to mine, the potted/sealed high voltage module may have been damaged with the polarity reverse switch while on. But I would also check the power transistors on the heatsink for shorts or opens, drive signal to the power transistors and drive voltage to the high voltage module, and basic things like power supply DC voltages.
@@EriksElectronicsWorkbench Thank you for your swift response! Can I check the power transistors while they're still attached, or do I have to take them out?
@@EriksElectronicsWorkbench Also, yes it's practically the same model as yours, but it goes up to 3kV and 10mA.
@@BurakAhmetTufekci It depends on the surrounding circuit if it influences the readings to a great deal but you can try in circuit first. You should have a diode junction from collector to base and from base to emitter. And an open from collector to emitter. If you can unsolder just the base lead connection (depending on how they are mounted and wired) you may not need to remove anything else to get the C-B and B-E readings. In circuit may not give an accurate reading from C-E.
@@EriksElectronicsWorkbench You're right. Also, how could I check the sealed high voltage module? Thank you so much!
As I’ve heard, the Americans used this thing in Guantanamo as a torture device. If you have to listen to it for half a day, you’ll sign anything.
I agree the cap is for taking the edge off the square-wave output. This is important because if you put square-waves into a power supply, there will be large current spikes into the filter caps due to high dv/dt, and that will damage those caps. Loads such as motors and incandescent lamps dont care what the waveshape is as long as the RMS value is correct. The smoothed square-wave is probably an acceptable tradeoff. So, why is the cap running at 600V, rather than 120V ? Recall that capacitors store energy (E = 1/2 C V-squared). If the capacitor is charged to 5X the voltage, it stores 25X the amount of energy. I would need to run SPICE simulations, but I'm certain the amount of filtering capacitance at 120 VRMS is substantially higher than at 600VRMS. While we're discussing RMS voltage, the waveform from the inverter isn't sinusoidal so the RMS value of 120V is being obtained from a peak-to-peak source that is less than the usual 2*sqrt(2) . It would be interesting to put a very small load, say 10-20 watts on the inverter and compare the waveforms with and without the 600V capacitor. I suspect you will see the latter case being more like a square-wave, and likely with some ringing. I would also suggest running the DC input at a lower value to reduce the amplitude of the ringing so it doesn't damage or false-trigger the large SCRs. Inverters are difficult to design so that they operate reliably under all load conditions; they often work very well at low or zero load, and fall apart at high loads.
Thanks for sharing this information. It now makes sense why the capacitor voltage is so high.
Only universal brushed motors won't care about supply waveform. Induction motors care a lot since the harmonics can either result in a stator magnetic field that tries to stop the rotor or spin it the wrong way.
I'll add my comment on your first video to this one, for reference: The transformer portion of that inverter is a ferroresonant power supply. Same a Sola, except the primary is driven from the inverter instead of a 120 volt winging. The immediate giveaway was the 600 volt output, which will go to the large oil filled cap forward of the transformer. The core is run in saturation all of the time as a means of voltage regulation, regardless of load or input voltage (within reason). That's where most of the 125 watts is lost. The 600 volt winding and the oil filled cap are a tank circuit, resonant at 60 cycles. The output voltage should rise when the frequency is raised up to spec. What a super cool piece. Would be neat to see a scope on the output. Edit: now that we've seen it with a scope, you can see that the tank circuit would be a sine wave, but, being driven with a square wave, it results in that "in between" shape. Very, very cool. ;) To add some more, they're loud and the transformers run warm specifically as a result of running in saturation all of the time. The reason for using such a high voltage for the tank circuit is that it requires exponentially less capacitance. Even though the cap has to be larger for the higher voltage, it can be much smaller due to the exponentially smaller required capacity. 600 volts is common in these, probably as that is a common oil filled cap voltage. If you can read the capacitance, you can calculate the circulating VARs. Or could just measure the current with clamp on ammeter. The amount would probably surprise you. ;)
Thanks for sharing this information. I may revisit this inverter in a future video to look at the ferroresonant transformer in more detail.
Are you closings the other channel Mr. Carlson lab
Bloody noisey 😂😊
The transformer portion of that inverter is a ferroresonant power supply. Same a Sola, except the primary is driven from the inverter instead of a 120 volt winging. The immediate giveaway was the 600 volt output, which will go to the large oil filled cap forward of the transformer. The core is run in saturation all of the time as a means of voltage regulation, regardless of load or input voltage (within reason). That's where most of the 125 watts is lost. The 600 volt winding and the oil filled cap are a tank circuit, resonant at 60 cycles. The output voltage should rise when the frequency is raised up to spec. What a super cool piece. Would be neat to see a scope on the output.
Thank you for the information. You might like to see the follow up video ruclips.net/video/Q2KF4k_8daE/видео.html I do measure the output on a scope and adjust the frequency which as you mention raised the voltage. In the follow up video I ask if anyone has ideas about the 600 volt circuit. Your info is exactly right.
Inefficient, but built like a tank. Could probably drop it off a truck with no harm done.
So, it takes 1200 watts on the DC side to make 500 watts AC. Wow, the old UPS's and stuff I worked on were never that inefficient. And that thing must get pretty HOT too.
Nope, something went wrong in your math. At 300 watts it's drawing 412.8 on the DC side a net conversion loss of 112.8 watts. 72.7% efficiency assuming the bulb is actually drawing 300 watts.
Yes it is power hungry! The ferroresonant transformer runs in saturation and gets quite hot by design. Being that it was built for the military I think rugged and indestructible were the goals over being efficient.