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I remember the 2000s the Bush administration, and the thinkers surrounding it, insisted that Nietzsche was a right-wing proto Nazi figure. It was the left pushing back on that, saying that it's simplistic and unsophisticated. How times have changed.

The guy speaking up until 20 minutes or so, which is where I stopped. Wow. They can't just be philosophers you disagree with. Because blinkered Marxists like Georg Lukacs say so. Pretty bald face philosophy in the service of politics. Determine what they think about "extermination" first, and only then decide if they count as philosophers.

1:10:00 🎯 I’m very sympathetic to Dugin but there are some troubling loose ends

Jenkins comes off complacent here, not least his ignorance of the radicalization of right wing think tanks like Heritage & Claremont, as pointed out by Zimmer.

Yes, there is a rise in anti-democratic and anti-liberal political formations. Governments in the UK and Germany arresting and imprisoning people for posts on social media that the gov't deems offensive or insulting is 100% "anti-liberal". Western Media and Govt's mislabeling every single democracy in which people vote against far-left political figures and policies as "far-right" and "russian influenced" is anti-democratic.

well central europe is under the influence of illiberal fascist institutions like the eu. poland currently has an illiberal government, the current german government is half fascist and thus illiberal as well. what do you expect it to be?

Very interesting. I'd say it missed three other elements: It is disgustingly authoritarian. It feeds and promotes nativism, xenophobia, homophobia and, to an extent, misogyny. It is efficient in its use of liberal fundamentals (freedom of expression and association, vote, law) to advance and get to the power, where then creates laws that further promote it.

loosen our libs family

Liberalism is epitome of anti-humanism

"and the geopoliticization of identity are now dominant frames in the burgeoning far-right"... uh, remind me again who has been shifting the Western frame from seeing people as individuals to accusing people of being oppressors on the basis of their skin color and gender starting in 2014 when people were cool with each other? And wielding the power to censor, fire them, and destroy their lives for pushing back on the slanderous and cult-like accusations? The past decade has regressed in relations between races, cultures, genders due to this. It wasn't like this in 2010. People were cool with each other back then. It doesn't take an "intellectual" to put down the 50 year old leftist revolution literature and look out the window at reality. If you wanted to resurrect your political boogeyman from the dead, I can't think of a better way than this decade of this leftist authoritarian gaslighting.

ILLIBERALISM = Genocidal Fascist Western Oligarchy Dictatorship 🖕 LIBERALISM = Genocidal Fascist Western Oligarchy Dictatorship by other means 🖕

Really enjoying this histrionic poltroon getting ratioed in his comment section.

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What is war if not a form of genocide? A means to an end? A struggle over land or resources? Or just gross politics? Because liberal democracy has wage more war all over the globe than any Nazi, so you people are cowardly Hippocrates of the worse kind wtf This is a struggle for survival 🤬

These people are hilarious

So, it's clear enough: these are fascist thinkers. So then one has to get to the root if this kind of thinking? What makes it so appealing to liberal-democrats that they can't even see what is fascist in it? And even when it is put right in front of them, it passes their sniff test. Or put backwards: what is fascist in philosophy? What is fascist in liberal democratic thinking? It is this idea of the nation, the people, along with the idea of history being a deadly struggle between civilizations/peoples/races which represent distinct worldviews or cultures. This idea itself was already a mainstay of liberal thinking in the 18th and 19th centuries, especially in its ideas about colonialism or eugenics. Even today, the liberal narrative about America carrying out a providential humanitarian mission to make the world safe for "Western values" and "human rights" stinks of the racialist thinking of yesterday. The idea that some peoples are too immature and need guidance. It's the same corpse dressed in the clothing of liberty, equality and fraternity. It is not some crude biological reductionism, but a spiritual-idealistic cultural racism convinced that it is fate or destiny itself that gives the USA the right to world supremacy.

Loved the takedown of Dugin (and Millerman, with whom I have briefly interacted), but the fact that he talked to Alex Jones is irrelevant and has no place in this discussion. That was a cheap shot. But otherwise, spot on.

Thanks for this. It's refreshing to hear this kind of raw Truth for a change. Heidegger is total garbage. Nietzsche not much better.

The comments here are depressing. Democracy is in danger

Racism is considered part of liberalism, seriously?

hedgeger was facist look at him face the mustache and he even didnt not like child look at his biography i wrote. the presenter looks like a squierl, maybe he need be more like cia agent and uniform next time :)

Poor understanding of Heidegger typical of most in the humanities, especially by those interested in Marx whose anti-Semitism is clearly worse than Heidegger's.

The 'uneducated' masses of Europe want their nation-states, to be less ethnic 'melting-pots' and more of a homegrown, homogenous stew. Their liberal 'educated' elites think they're just being fascists. But European educated liberal elites have always hated their uneducated, masses for being culturally conservative. Yet this is all theatre... As the real reason for mass immigration in the West, is 'Capitalism needs to feed' itself. It needs more consumers buying more stuff. Otherwise it dies. Open borders is desperately needed to keep the wealth, for the super wealthy flowing. Its needs fresh converts. The uneducated masses realise that immigrants come to the West. for the perceived wealth of the Capitalist system itself. Not for the nations cultural heritage, traditions or values. Capitalism's desperate hunger destroys the delicate fabric of their society. It produces unsustainable amounts of societal anxiety and unrest. The educated liberals love of feeling sanctimonious is used. by the Capitalist entrepreneurs to push their society in the direction, Capitalists need it to go. The liberal cultural elites shield themselves, with the self-righteous feeling of helping the 'oppressed' whilst gaining, from the wealth it makes for them. It's a win-win scenario. That it annoys and even frightens the 'uneducated' masses, that they feel are immutably conservative... is a wonderful little bonus for them. Any political voice the uneducated masses can muster... is immediately labelled far-right. Because 'far-right' is the enemy of Capitalism... it's their ultimate enemy. It is the only ideological enemy to be taken seriously. Its only threat.

For commies everyone is far right

Not far right, just left wing from 20 years ago. Technocrats and commies ignoring the people get caught out in the end.

As a gay, left-leaning liberal, I cannot understand what looks to me like willful blindness on your part with regard to the artificial expansion of the gay rights movement to the meaningless 'LGBTQ+' thing. To a lot of people, this isn't some nefarious 'wedge issue' being 'exploited' by the right, it's that the right are the only people who are responding to their concerns. This includes many gay people and many, many women. I have a great deal of sympathy with their objections and share many of them. For instance, the harm that comes to young people who fall under the influence of gender ideology (and anticipating an objection, it *is* ideological). These young people are overwhelmingly gay and/or autistic. Identifying as 'trans' often ushers them onto a path of lifelong medicalisation, with sterilisation all but guaranteed if they use puberty blockers in conjunction with hormones, both of which have been used respectively for the chemical castration of sex offenders. This is appalling. Whatever way you look at it, it's appalling. It's also appalling to me that some pea-brained types now take my view on that as licence to say I'm some sort of fascist shill. I could go on about my objections to this garbage artifice, and how convenient it has been for rapacious neoliberals to commodify it, since the success of the gay movement has made it safe for them to do so; suffice it to say as a leftist, I hold people like *you* responsible for allowing this to get as far as it has. It's a complete abdication of responsibility, and it smacks of deep moral cowardice because there is no way anyone who is genuinely interested in what trans activism involves, the effects that it has and on whom, can claim to be unaware of how pernicious it is. It's infuriating.

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Daniel is proof you can can get a great education and still be a complete dip shit.

In west right wingers are obsessed within west’s politics, in reality majority of real lives in global south so in multipolarity , west has very less say and role on shaping world . Abrahamic economics is failed model that’s a reality ❤

Where ru when mother India was looted and its children eere murdered by colonial Cry more😂 then go home

funny to hear liberals discuss fascism , still stuck in the paradigm that fascism is a right wing phenomenon , still blind to the source of actual fascist thought

Could hear about 20% of this 😢

So sad this recording is not usable. What a horrible waste of information lost to cheap microphones. This could have been a valuable resource

Austerity could also be seen as a hyper capitalist test run, with elements that not only stick but make the case for a change of intentional direction to embedding the features long term, since it now looks like a jigsaw with an obvious piece missing to complete.

Why did the video end so abruptly? Seemed weird.

Strange that it cuts so abruptly at the end, it didnt really feel like the discussion was over

Great discussion. It’s a shame the sound quality is not good enough to understand everything that is being said.

Leftist hate jews now not Republicans. You don't hear Republicans say from the river to the see that's Leftist. Democrats are neo nazi's

Like white nationalism in 🇺🇲

Retarded honestly, real Marxist-Leninists need to step uo to the challenge because the gay Marxian intelligentsia are useless

I really feel they don't understand Heidegger 😅

" The book demonstrates that mainstream politicians and intellectuals are at risk of losing control over the definitions of the very concepts, including equal rights, racial and ethnic diversity, and political tolerance, that undergird their vision of liberal democracy." The problem is that with wokeism the internal contradictions within mainstream liberalism have become apparent. You are " losing control" bsc your whole ideology has become intellectually inconsistent.

Lol I actually am enjoying listening to this, though not for any of the reasons which the speakers would have intended. The idea that Heidegger's critique of the Cartesian model of the Ego on very technical phenomenological grounds directly leads in a slippery slope to the "post-truth" era and Trump's election in 2016 sounds like a spoof title you'd find if academic conferences had an equivalent of the Onion.

Defining forms itself is fascist

It's good to hear these leftist egalitarians basically saying that the giants of philosophy stand in opposition to them.

"Basically all Philosophy is right wing" YES 💪😎😎

Liberalism = oligarchy

Leftism has become anti-European.

Apparently it was filmed in a broom closet and recorded through a potato. Real serious business here.

Awful as usual.