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Waste of time discussion until the USA has the extraction and refining capability.

Texas in its own grid.

The small U.S. market limits scalability, resulting in high costs and poor export competitiveness. The prospect for a competitive U.S. battery storage supply chain is poor. Tariffs, sanctions, and the Tonya Harding strategy are the only routes to viability.

The USA is bankrupt . I don't see how the country can come back from that . Production costs are untenable .

I wonder if bad weather days make the charge fall short, and if so, do they buy low from the grid at peak hours for resale that night?

How to use hydrogen in a way that I don't really remember being directly addressed here: There are many existing uses for hydrogen that already use substantial amounts of it. The clean way to make hydrogen is to make it from clean electricity. Those clean sources of electricity, at least wind and solar, tend to be very distributed. It follows that hydrogen can be economically generated very close to the point of use. That being the case, the usual costs of electricity transmission AND hydrogen storage can largely be avoided. Since these are generally stationary uses, if you have a suitable storage space, compression of the hydrogen can be much easier, possibly avoided altogether.

How big was the original mine because this feels like a BS report to make people believe it is all unicorns and glitter. Research Silver Peak Nevada and learn the truth.

Someone ask Brett next time what GDJ means?!?! 😂

The best actions to take in the near term are reconductoring, DLR, and virtual power plants. Building out renewables portfolios would also be a decent approach.

The easiest step to take for the US is to harness 10 quadrillion BTUs of wasted grid electricity, and turn it into hydrogen by electrolysis. 1 quad is equal to 76 of the largest oceangoing supertankers, filled to the top. Each one of these tankers would hold 2 million barrels of oil. We are ignoring the fastest, and most readily available path, along with extreme amounts of cash, on the table. With oil over 70 dollars a barrel, the valuations are quite considerable.

Panasonic operates a hydrogen-to-the-home network. The Enefarm division has been highly successful.

Contrast hydrogen subsidies to fossil fuel subsidies, and to further downstream fossil fuel collateral damage portfolios. These may go on to include lowered real estate values, early demise, abandoned oilwells. loss of canopy and surface waters, decrease of topsoil, remediation outlays, illnesses, and lower agriculture yields. Geopolitical strife, military operational costs, insurance and medical premiums, price inflation and uncertainty, et cetera, could all also be evaluated respectively.

Green electricity consists of hydroelectric, wind, solar, biogas, and nuclear power.

Not all electricity on the grid is used, irrespective of the location or time, so adding new generation is a pointless exercise in most cases in the US. Peaks might require power, at least in the near term, but rooftop solar and wind turbines are not built out yet. Consequently, it isn't possible to predict the characteristics of the 2050 grid. In any case, cash in on curtailment, nightly grid power loss, and seasonal wind power surges. These are wasted energy streams that can be used to make hydrogen, right now. The US wastes well over half of its grid total electricity output, grid power has unlimited range (hence A/C), and electricity moves at 9/10s the speed of light. 10 quadrillion BTUs of grid energy can be harnessed, and are being left on the table. As such, why are they so worried about locations of generation? The comments made in this video are truly mystifying. Generation and use are not matched well, especially when paired with solar and wind, so hydrogen and batteries would of course be needed..

Having colors for hydrogen is a distraction. The original intent was for green hydrogen to convey the zero carbon nature of hydrogen. Siblings for green hydrogen are green steel, green cement, green mobility, green electricity, green ammonia, et cetera. Having this endless debate of hydrogen within a reference of colors schemes, may lead to results of inconsequence. Let's consider and debate with strategy in mind.

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Interconnection, interconnection, interconnection.

5%?

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So, Hawaii gets rid of coal power, and guess what THEY RUN OUT OF POWER and have to impliment rolling blackouts, guess who else has to do rolling blackouts, California.. hmmm, maybe electing Democrats ISN'T that great of an idea!

I wondered why I it was so hard to find a used battery for my Leaf. I also wondered why the prices were so high when I did find one. Now I know the answer.

Its nice to see the Weather Channel presenting this information so clearly and calling on Canary Media staff to talk about it. Good job all round!

what is a solar microgrid?

Wait my brother in law said EV batteries end up in the land fill after 5 years…

Rooftop solar should be limited when in daytime solar provides essentially 100% electricity. If batteries are provided to shift load to the evening that may be worthwhile but utility solar is significantly cheaper. Net metering days should be over unless electricity is provided when actually needed !

Hope is not a product. Hype avoids the messy little problems. In case of hydrogen they're fatal to hope

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Hydrogen is a ridiculous material. It is wildly impractical. You do not want to store it, ship it, handle it... I think ammonia is the first thing you do... Japan already pulled the trigger on this. -Ammonia is a huge commodity - 2% of GHG in NA already -Japan is co-firing ammonia in existing energy plants - offsetting the dirty fuels while utilizing the existing infrastructure -Europe has several flex-fuel ship engines in production - these can run on diesel OR ammonia. Japan is also building port facilities for ammonia fueling. Another point I want to raise, we dump green energy sometimes. This is because of the matching problem, green electricity production does not match up with demand perfectly. This creates a cost/benefit tradeoff - as we create more green energy supply we dump more. If green energy was not dumped, if it was made with green energy during off-peak the economics change a lot. I have a report I could share that estimates with free electricity you could make green ammonia for ~$100/ton, the open market price for ammonia is in the range $600-1500.

Thoughtful and insightful discussion. Thanks!

Re: repurposing gas pipelines isn't this a big focus in Europe (European hydrogen backbone)? Seems to contradict what Michael was arguing...

Love the clarity, thanks.

Nuclear is also Green, it's not less green then solar or wind.

Really, really great discussion. 600 bil wall to climb O_O

Randy Mills is about to mass-produce technology that uses hydrogen in such a way that is 200 times potent as gas. It violates the known laws of chemistry. Because the known laws of chemistry are wrong. Emits pure oxygen into the air. Such technologies are the greatest hope of mankind. Humanity has been kept intentionally antiquated with energy technology for 100 years. For instance, gravity control was mastered in October 1956.

I'm not convinced the animated background is helpful just a distraction from what you're watching.

Will be interesting to see the hydromet plant!

What an awesome idea.

Hydroelectric power is used for base load as it is highly reliable. Means first on, last off. It is also the cheapest. Then thermal power fills the gap and is throttled to make room for renewable which have a low reliability. As such there is no "spare" Hydroelectric power available. Converting electrical energy to hydrogen energy results in a 25-30% energy loss. It also requires metals like copper, cobalt, nickel, manganese, calcium, and magnesium catalyze hydrolysis. There are also a list of chemicals required to do this at commercial scale, including hydrochloric acid, sulfuric acid, trifluoroacetic acid, formic acid, and nitric acid. Depending on the technology used to create hydrogen from water only determine the level of toxicity of the byproducts that require disposal in hazardous waste facilities. As such is not commercially feasible to use the waste stream for desalination. Co-locating hydroelectric power and desalination would be solving a problem that does not exist. If there is water for hydroelectric there would be sufficient low cost water for other uses. Saudi Arabia, Israel and dozens of other countries have the largest desalination plants, but no hydroelectric. Cheers

Nuclear power plants are usually built near water and have existing infrastructure to move it around. Seems like the perfect place to add an electrolysis facility.

So we need to input clean energy for the output of electrolysis to truly be clean. It doesn't make sense to use dirty energy for it if that's the goal. Maybe hydroelectric power could fuel electrolysis, using the same water. Then use that power for desalination and maybe solve the lack of salt-free water problem, without adding to another one.

sounds better than it really is. oahu just had rolling blackouts this week, first time in 8 years.

That kinda cute.

I smell a bunch of BS! 🙄 👃🏻 💩

Late on a Sunday I came across this video loved it thanks so much for the education!

Biden hates America simple as that

I have a friend who worked for TransAlta Utility in Alberta, Canada, and they did not know that LNG is >90 % methane. Why would this be? I think it's because oil and gas industry has been very careful in their language around their various products, basically obscuring the truth. In fact, it's one of the things they are very good at.

This is a somewhat of a lateral question on the fracking theme, but it's something I've been wondering: geothermal energy production also uses hydraulic fracturing. Is there any concern that some of the same risks of fracking for LNG (e.g., ground water contamination, methane leakage) are also present in sourcing geothermal energy?

Shout out from Ferndale, WA! Thanks for everything you do, Bill!!

Sounds like an awesome series. Too bad there are so few of us who care to tackle these issues.

Brother Oli Frost can you make more videos like those