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God actually uses that word “mystery”.

im happy for you bro keep pushin

Yes.

Why you worshipping a swine on your hat old testament says swine is bad among other animals that you should never eat

The RUclips channel Digital Hammurabi has done reaction video to this "BIBLE Professor's Slavery Apologetics - Dr. Bowen Responds".

This kid is a genius.

Apparently Reasoner has some problems with the word atonement, because Leviticus 17:11 clearly states "For the life of a creature is in the blood, and I have given it to you to make atonement for yourselves on the altar; it is the blood that makes atonement for one’s life." (IOW you can't consume blood because it contains a creature's soul and is meant to make amends with God.)

It’s always been interesting that people say God “accommodates” the culture of the people. It seems holiness might be very ambiguous if this was true

hahaha "notorious for having ended many 'read the Bible in a year' attempts" is right! I've tried like.... three times at least, and every time I quit around.... Leviticus or Numbers. :/ I've never made it past the Pentateuch ;_;

For a response to this video which is much more forthcoming in its evaluation of this subject go and see Digital Hammurabi

I justvstumbled across this... but it couldn't be more timely. My novel, The Egyptian Enigma comes out Nov 26, 2024, and Anubis plays a major part in the thriller action adventure novel.

Thank you for this video. @dr Johnson. Purity culture has some very toxic teachings. On the surface it sounds good. But the details when played out can create some major dysfunction in marriage. Really enjoyed this video though. Very good

Dr. Josh and I have actually been reading through these texts from Exodus in our bi-weekly Hebrew reading stream. It is surprising to hear a biblical scholar like Dr. Imes make so many elementary mistakes with the language of Exodus 21.

Please let Prof. Imes know that Dr. Kipp Davis and I would be happy to have a conversation with her on this topic.

Just a quick reminder: Exodus 21 discusses Hebrew slaves, including instructions on how much they can be beaten (Exodus 21:20-21), which are often conveniently not mentioned here. These were not man's instructions but God's (Exodus 21:1). Later in the Bible, there are instructions about non-Hebrew slaves (Leviticus 25:44-46), also conveniently not mentioned here. These people, regardless of what you call them (slaves, servants, hired workers), had no choice but to serve and could be passed on to children as inheritance, according to God's instructions. Regarding children, specifically little girls, the Bible instructs adult men to take them "for yourself" (Numbers 31:17-18). This seems similar enough to modern forms of slavery. For those who prefer to ignore the Hebrew Bible and focus on the New Testament, here are some verses to consider: Ephesians 6:5-7; Colossians 3:22, 4:1; 1 Timothy 6:1; Titus 2:9-10; 1 Peter 2:18-20. For a more thorough passage by passage walkthrough, I invited 5 Bible Scholars onto a Deep Drinks Panel to discuss everyone in detail.

Hmm her argument seems like a stretch

so basically if we change the definition of slavery, then the Bible appears to be against indentured servitude 🤷🏽‍♀

0:28 YES Lady, YOU are deeply misleading! Just so you know, these passages in most German and Dutch translations also speak of slaves. How far backward do you want to bend to defend your silly beliefs?

Your holy book flatly promotes slavery, grow up and stop hiding from it.

Dr. Imes and I are both fully aware that this is not a fully flushed out perspective on this topic. If you would like that, I recommend Dr. Peter William's lecture on the topic: ruclips.net/video/EUOsBQYuZ9g/видео.html

I know this is just a portion of a longer interview, but to title this video "Slavery in the Bible" when all it talks about is simply Indentured Servitude (not slavery) seems misleading to me. And the guest did not make clear that these laws she's describing only applied to native Hebrews and not to foreigners. And it was the foreigners who were the actual slaves in the Bible. The slavery in the Bible was reserved for foreigners, not Hebrews (who the Bible makes clear could not be made slaves in Israel). And it actually turns out that there are many many similarities between American slavery and the actual Biblical slavery. I hear this claim a lot, and it simply isn't really true if you look into it. Law for law. I mean sure, they aren't comparable when you compare American slavery to Biblical indentured servitude as this woman does, but they are when you compare American slavery to actual Biblical slavery though. Which it seems is not being done here. It's apples to oranges.

Chattel slaves could be captured from enemy non-combatants in which the Israelites were the aggressors, or they could be purchased without regards to provenance, or they could be born into life-long slavery. None of this was voluntary.

"There's already a law saying human trafficking is prohibited." Nope. There is no such law. There was only a law prohibiting the kidnapping of fellow Hebrews. If you have to lie to protect your beliefs, it is time to get new beliefs.

Nope. She's lying. The Bible condones and promotes chattel slavery. Chattel slavery is defined as "the enslaving and owning of human beings and their offspring as property, able to be bought, sold, and forced to work. Another definition is: "The condition in which one person is owned as property by another and is under the owner's control, especially in involuntary servitude." Leviticus 25 explicitly describes and condones chattel slavery. "44 Both thy bondmen, and thy bondmaids, which thou shalt have, shall be of the heathen that are round about you; of them shall ye buy bondmen and bondmaids. 45 Moreover of the children of the strangers that do sojourn among you, of them shall ye buy, and of their families that are with you, which they begat in your land: and they shall be your possession. 46 And ye shall take them as an inheritance for your children after you, to inherit them for a possession; they shall be your bondmen for ever: but over your brethren the children of Israel, ye shall not rule one over another with rigour." Under Mosaic law, foreign slaves were chattel slaves. They could be bought, sold, separated from their families, beaten, raped, killed, kept for life, and passed down as inherited property. Every specific reference to foreign slaves in the Bible is to deny them rights and protections afforded to Hebrew slaves. The treatment of foreign slaves was every bit as bad, or worse, than slavery in the Antebellum south.

I have to be honest, studying arguments about the existence of God was biggest waste of time. That being said, I would be careful filling the role of therapist for your students.

Miracles are completely useless to an all powerful being.

I always find it amusing when Christians ponder on why people would ignore evidence that Christians don't even have. LOL!

A good book on Jesus and the Levitical Law is "Jesus and The Forces of Death" by Matthew Thiessen. What she says and more is in the book!

All the magic events happened 2000 years ago to people who didn't understand where the sun went at night. Yea, that's convenient. Don't physically show now that we can record events in real time. Instead, you better just hope you are born in the country with the correct popular cult... im sorry, religion 😂

None of the gospels written by the author whose named after it

Aaaaand that answers the question how? Okay, they had evidence, but still weren't faithfull to God. If we are to believe the story. But... now there isn't evidence. We don't observe miracles. Do physic-defying oceans get shy around cameras?

There are evidence of the gifts of miracles. Today society people hear God less because of distractions. I know I have to put my phone down and quiet the noise so I can hear God

It’s seems misleading because no one cares about context anymore

This is bullshit. Temporary debt slavery was ONLY for fellow Israelites, all other slaves were PROPERTY FOR LIFE: ‘Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. You can bequeath them to your children as inherited *PROPERTY* and can make them *SLAVES* *FOR* *LIFE* , but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly.' Leviticus 25:44-46. Read the fucking Bible.

You are not being truthful shame on you !

Former Jewish Theologist convert to Christianity after he found out this at the Jewish Talmud 👉ruclips.net/video/2Y6m4wNQ4hc/видео.html

What mercy if the God of the old testament was bloodthirsty Demon who order the Israelite to kill an entire town children, pregnant women, new born babies, grandpa's and grandma's were killed by his orders, this lady is trying to deceive Christians, the God Of the old testament and the god of the new testament are 2 completely beings The old testament basically was a Demon In sheepskin and the god of the new testament was the real and only Divine Creator of the Universe

Ima tell you why the old testament is not for Christians 😊because the old testament God is a pagan God in fact a god of war 😊 historical and archeological evidence prove it here 👉 Meet the God of the Bible: ruclips.net/user/livedMQciYeDHU0

I would be happy to accept the switch in language from SLAVE to "person owned as property by another person" Ofcourse with a few caviets; these "persons owned as property by another person" (Exodus 21:21) are to be passed on as inheritence to the masters children (Leviticus 25:46), that is, unless they are hebrew. These "persons owned as property by another person" can be beaten with a rod providing that they don't die within a day or two (Exodus 21:20-21). Masters using female property "for themselves" *winkwink is a bit of a tricky one, unless these "person owned as property by another person" is a virgin girl, as she can be taken "for yourself" which makes things nice and simple (Numbers 31:17-18)

This is equivalent of saying cleopatra is black

Hello everybody in the comments, First of all, thank you for taking time from you day to watch this episode. However, I want to establish that, now and going forward, I expect all of my guests to be referred to kindly and treated with dignity. Honest disagreement is most welcome, however, personal attacks on the character of the guest are unacceptable. If you are unable to be kind and dignified I will be forced to ban you, which neither of us want.

Hello everybody in the comments, First of all, thank you for taking time from you day to watch this episode. However, I want to establish that, now and going forward, I expect all of my guests to be referred to kindly and treated with dignity. Honest disagreement is most welcome, however personal attacks on the character of the guest are unacceptable. If you are unable to be kind and dignified I will be forced to ban you, which neither of us want.

I agree "slave" is not a good translation of Exodus 21:2-6, but so is "servant" as she proposes. But I watched the whole video of this interview and she never once even discussed the actual slavery in the Bible. Something I see done WAY to often when pretending to address slavery in the Bible. Focus on Exodus 21 and completely ignore Lev. 25 where the actual slavery is. This is no longer simply borderline dishonest. It's at best evasive, and at worst dishonest.

This was a little disappointing to be honest. It's a topic I'm very interested in so have spent an inordinate amount of time looking into. We didn't even get to slavery until last last half of the video, and then to be honest? She never did even mention the slavery in the Bible? If you want to talk about slavery in the Bible you just can't look at Exodus 21. Although, I do agree with her that the word "slave" is inappropriate in Exodus 21:2-6. When I say slave, I mean lifelong chattel slave like in America. Owned as property, unpaid, able to be bought and sold, and their children after them. I agree with Dr. Imes that these were indentured servants. But she said a better translation would be "servant", and on this I completely disagree. This is simply taking the problem 100% in the opposite direction. These people weren't simply "servants" either. That's as misleading as "slave". But again, this is NOT the slavery in the Bible anyway. And she never did even mention that these laws ONLY applied to native Hebrews? That is not an honest representation of the passage to those who aren't familiar with it. The slavery in the Bible was reserved for foreigners. And I'm sorry, but yes, they could be lifelong, generational chattel slaves. Something never even mentioned in a video titled "Does the Bible Endorse Slavery"? The passages that DO actually condone lifelong chattel slavery in the Bible? I see this happen way too often to be honest. A complete ignoring of the issue, while claiming to address it. And it this point it really bothers those of us who sincerely are searching for an answer. I'm beginning to think there is no good answer frankly.

She's reinterpreting history & reality of it. Slavery is older than any texts. But I appreciate her drive to recreate history so it's all lovely, cosy & happy. Bless.

Exodus 21:20,21 The Message (MSG) 20-21 “If a slave owner hits a slave, male or female, with a stick and the slave dies on the spot, the slave must be avenged. But if the slave survives a day or two, he’s not to be avenged-the slave is the owner’s property.

What is she talking about. Many battles in the Bible when the enemy was defeated they killed every single male babies whatever, they then killed every women that had been with a man. What do you think they did with the little girls????? Why did they only want females that had not been with a man. To sell them!!!!! The Bible talks about eunuchs, did men do that to themselves for fun??

Oh, stop. Just stop it. The Bible was talking about slaves. Period. Don't try to wiggle out of it.

I guess this level of dishonesty should be expected of people employed at a University that literally requires people to sign away their integrity before working there.