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22:38 "this isn't even my final form"

Thanks.

Really Thanks.

I really enjoy working in svelte. Even though my weekdays go working on React. I still end up doing atleast something on the side using svelte. I really love how lite weight it is and it gives the exact same experience in production that you get in development ecosystem.

thanks @ZoltanKochan you are a legend!

I'm a person of good taste: thumbs down for this inappropriate empty sale-y talk.

it is similar to razor by lighter

okay... just wow

we need gamedev starter

This is soo cool. The fact that we can play the game in the doc is really cool. Good job 👍🏻

its my sleepover and I get to choose the movie

Rune ruined svelte

Wow, really great!

Jason Miller is the man

I’m impressed. How did you get the political will to migrate such a huge app from webpack to Vite?

Rom from Vike here, questions welcome. About the Open Source Pricing, note that: - Everything stays 100% gratis for engineers. - The code stays 100% Open Source (MIT license). - Companies who don't have the resources can apply for a free license key.

Thank you for sharing this hard won knowledge!

Insufferable and I am a qwik fan :/

Super impressive. I just moved our bundler to rsbuild instead of vite as I was the only person who worked on it and migrating webpack to rspack/rsbuild is quite simple. The prod builds are less than 5s now. Down from 200s!!

The best framework!

Great talk! Thank you

So, Svelte becomes Vue…

Didn't expect this talk to be so good. Anthony really understands the users well.

the only benefit i saw is you face your errors much quicker, am i right?

Broccoli is a source of stress in ember, many times it would show error and not point what file had it. It show some stacktrace, even in what core of cpu it ran, but nothing about specific file.

don't skip steps. did you CD into the Vite project?? you can t assume the viewer is following. Assume the most literal view of what you are doing.

thanks for all the hard work Vlad and the team! awesome job and features! 👏🙏♥

looks like business model doesn't need as much polishing as v1

Its been 0 days since a new JavaScript framework has been released

TLDR they will start charging money. Can anyone recommend any free html pre rendering alternatives out there for use on an existing REACT project?

Wow

Coolest magician ever 🪄

I've used Ember many years ago for some hobby projects. I don't see many people using it anymore... Nice to see that it is still alive tho and coming to Vite and obviously still evolving...

This presentation is one of the best i have ever seen. The technology is also very interesting. I just wondering how the code looks like

here we go again! at this point i convinced my senior is right, just use javascript than using any of these shiny frontends

Late wishes from sri lanka...

This is all great! One question, from a developer perspective what is the advantage of runtime-driven reactivity?

Bullish on sveltekit + cf workers stack for 2025

I love the simplicity!!!! 🎉🎊

Is this still a thing? I see the vite path and the expo path on the Tamagui website. Absolut bullshit. I come to your discord server to ask for details, receive ZERO response, except some smartass suggestiong another framework. Yeah good job. Waste of time.

tbh sending individual ESM modules during development currently makes vite unusable for majority of corporate projects, i tried running ours and load times were over 40s with thousands of requests. Looking forward to bundle mode to give it a try again.

Those are some really helpful new features. I'm mostly excited about the api mock

Omg, so excited for native alt runtime support 🎉

So Svelte basically stole Vue 3’s ideas? 🤣

That was straight to the point ! And yes, it does feel like vite ecosystem is very dynamic. Keep on the great work !

@3:10 this is such a horrible idea if you actually know what you're doing. ```svelte let count = $state(0); let prev = { count }; count += 1; ``` How am I supposed to reason about the semantics here? Why is "count" on the second line not reactive, but "count" on the first and third lines is reactive? And where is the semantics for this language so I can reason myself as I'm programming? When I hover over "count", what is the type of the variable? It's going to be a number: I have no hint from the language syntax or my typechecker about whether something is reactive or not, which is the main thing you want to know if you're doing reactive programming. If you think the Solid and Vue examples up top look ugly, just try to export a reactive store from a *.svelte.ts file: you have to write your own getters just to export a simple signal. Essentially: you have to re-wrap everything that Svelte has pre-emptively unwrapped for you, because Svelte has decided to hide the signal primitive from you. Evan Yue experimented with the same thing with Vue's reactivity transform proposal. It even got slated into a release. Then as they cautiously evaluated it, they realized that as soon as you get beyond a trivial counter example, it causes far more problems and leads to far uglier code than letting the programmer simply handle the signal via the "ref" or "reactive" interfaces.

I feel like we can use Svelte signals/stores exclusively in any other non-signal frameworks (aka React) and set svelte as a dev dependency(like you always do anyway)! This is a huge step in code re-usability!

Like many I was kinda afraid when the OG announcement came out, and now that I'm working on some projects in Svelte 5 I'm like "Oh, I GET IT." Bravo. This is the best summary yet!

Just go webcomponents

oh shıt here we go again First, we in the team updated from svelte kit beta, then from svelte 3 to svelte 4. Now we will be from svelte 4 to 5