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Before the brothers egos outgrew there band and ruined it for a lot of people myself being one.

Lol. Known fact, Patton and Bungle hated Korn and were so pissed back in the day when they called that the Bungle chord and compared Korn to Bungle.

I saw this tour on the last show in San Diego CA back in 1978. I was 14 years old and there to see Van Halen, but obviously knew who Black Sabbath was. Van Halen really did amazing show. I would say yes, they were better than Sabbath that night in every way. It was Ozzy's birthday, Tommy's amp blew up, 1 hour break in the show to get fixed, I almost got hammered after show trying to get a look at what Ozzy's birthday cake said. The bouncer wasn't having it. Sabbath broke up after that night, it was their last show until the reunion.

is that a Skatenigs poster?? 🤯

DLR = Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

I saw the both in Sept 1978 in Syracuse N Y

That was "my ass is on fire" by Mr. Bungle.

Shocker!!! any Bungle fan knows they and Mike Patton basically inspired the entire copy cat or Numetal movement altogether and people are just now beginning to realize that , Korn , System of a Down, slipknot, deftones it goes on and on

I have seen Roth solo and Van Halen and been up close Dave is not very tall😅

Good story!

Wow cool as hell story

I was at the Pittsburgh Civic Arena show on Sept 2nd 1978!!! Van Halen did indeed blow Sabbath off the stage. After VH tore it up, Sabbath looked like a bunch of old men dressed up like outdated rockers.

Bungle's debut is one of the true oddities in music history. Even as a young person I recognized what an anomaly it was. Ruined music for me, for ~2 years. Everything else I heard was less-than Bungle. Less daring, less well-engineered, less funky, less dark, less incredible vocals, lesser rhythm section. It redefined what was possible in music for me. To say it's underrated is a grotesque understatement. It should be under museum glass. The band didn't like it lol.

I would prefer a more structured review, and one where you mentioned every track.

You're overthinking it 😉 But the mysterious accent does probably relate to Tatiana's eccentric pronunciation. Given that no known language uses that accent in this word, she would have been better off going with a diaeresis. Oh, and in England we pronounce it "jewel."

After that tour Ozzy left Sabbath and Went to Randy Rhoads. You could say Van Halen slayed Sabbath.

My favorite Zao show was when they headlined at Martus Fest in 2000 in Dallas. They brought the house down.

I wouldn't call them chords, I'd call them dis-chords.

One of the best Van Halen shorts out there!

He should do more of that der hair band metal 😂

I loved them when they Mr. Bungle.. came out. Mike's a genius with his projects.. I mean no one sings Squeeze Me Macaroni like Mike.

Love it❤

Ahead of time 😁

I think for him he feels like he failed the whole point of the punk rock mba originally was showing you how to build your band or clothing company etc however, he quickly realised the drama videos were getting more traction which is why he kept doing it.

Primus and mr bunjle on that trippy funk

robert fripp lo hacia en 1970

Goddamnit I love america! oh and walking in circles my fav Mr Bungle track! And I still got my Calfornia cd with ars morendi and pink cigarette on it!

As someone who lived through it while being a massive fan of both (Hard Rock and Grunge), Some great points were made and some (in this clip) were missed. YES, the "switch" didnt happen overnight. The "ad revenue" probably shifted quickly, but those bands have been putting out albums and touring since. Your chances of seeing a glam band from the 80s on tour tomorrow are better than catching a 90s Grunge band. There WERE MANY other bands of different genres that came to prominence...a bunch of (Cure/REM) College Radio bands were named here, but I was huge into Black Crowes, Janes Addiction, Faith No More, and Suicidal Tendencies to name a few....Grunge didnt do any of them any favors either! It's always framed as "killing Hair Metal", but many bands survived for YEARS and it affected every band that wasnt Grunge adjacent. My last point, especially in defense of Hard Rock/Hair Metal....folks, most of those timeless 60s and 70s songs we love have overly sexual/nonsensical lyrics, but the singers rip and the band jams. Dont Stop Believin, Streetlight People! (wtf that means). While Hair Metal suffered the same self-inflicted affliction, they were just as worthwhile as the Journey/Van Halen/Kinks that came before them...singing about their dicks and the car theyll use to have sex and leave their hometown in. Guitar Solos are essential...and that was a saving grace of Grunge also. A HUGE selling point! A solo can be souldful and meaningful or aggressive and punchy....it can be catchy and driving....but it's OK for it to be over the top and FUN also. We've been missing that in music and maybe Grunge DID kill that.

I hated Glam Metal with a passion. I was very much an eighties thrasher/hardcore punk guy and I saw glam as the enemy. Thrash died in the nineties too, but by the 90s I was tired of thrash but I never got into the grunge scene. Death Metal, Industrial Metal, Doom Metal, Groove Metal, and Hardcore Punk really gained steam in the 90s.

There's a generational difference though, I guess. BMTH has a lot of digital elements in their music, some of which I imagine can't just be isolated to be played individually because those elements won't integrate as seamlessly as they do in recordings. I always liken it to colour grading or post processing in photography, yeah the photo may be cool, but 90% of the work is done digitally after the photo is taken. Then the art work is displayed as a finished piece, the photographer doesn't provide a detailed break down of what was achieved in camera verses what they did to it afterwards.

as for one that grew up on the strip in the early 80s van halen and motley crue when they came out it was in defiance of what was mainstream the disco and polyester era the clubs were hungry for a new sound wasp was another band that did their own thing they took the shock factor of alice cooper and amped it up by 1000% it truly was a decade of decadance

Van Halen's first concert they open for Black Sabbath in Seattle after Van Halen Black Sabbath got booed off the stage and Van Halen had to finish they never opened for another band again

Dude. Finn did like the music. Perhaps he just got tired and burned out. I'd like to think that I can spot a fake fan of music which Finn was not. I hated his opinions and he'd annoy the shit out of me a lot of times, because of his dumb opinions, but at the end of the day, his videos were cool and entertaining and you could feel his passion for music in every second of his videos. I think he either had enough or he's just got deeply offended by something.

The switch from hair metal to grunge is my favorite topic to discuss or listen to others discuss. Thanks for this. For me, I was a hair metal guy in the 80's, all throughout my high school years. Then in 1989 I went to college. I was expanding my mind, thinking about my future, and intellectually and emotionally growing. But hair metal did not grow with me. While I was evolving, hair metal seemed to be devolving. The hair metal bands were putting out music that was clearly for an increasingly younger audience of teenagers. Even Judas Priest, who I used to love, put out a song called 'Parental Guidance'. Clearly a song for kids, not a young adult thinking about his future. Motley Crue covered Smoking In The Boys Room. The operative word being 'boys' not men. At a time when Body Count was rapping about killing cops, a song about smoking in the boys room does not sound very bad ass or rebellious. And Twisted Sister put out a cover of Leader Of The Pack by the Shangri-Las. That might have been a rebellious song in 1965, but in the 80's it was safe and tame as it gets. So I started listening to alt rock, bands like REM, Sonic Youth, The Pursuit Of Happiness, The Grapes Of Wrath, National Velvet, Janes Addiction, and others. Then Nirvana's Nevermind came out, and that was it, hair metal was dead to me and I got into grunge. I quit 80's metal cold turkey and did not listen to it at all for about 20 years. around 2010 I was 40 years old and reached a point in life where I started looking back, reflecting, reminiscing, and being nostalgic. So one day I listened to one of the 80's metal tunes I used to love back in high school. And I loved it. I loved the nostalgia. And so now I listen to pretty much everything, I have playlists for every decade of music, from the 50's to the early 2000's, and for every genre I like, hair metal, grunge, disco, blues, pop, and others.

I think Appetite for Destruction made glam look instantly dated. That came out in '87. GnR were playing Les Pauls (instead of neon pointy guitars), and wearing jeans - which was back to basics. That matched what was happening in Seattle. Soundgarden's major debut came out in '89, AIC's Facelift came out in '90. Grunge didn't kill glam. Glam was so watered down by '88, GnR made them look like posers.

I got really into Mr Bungle in high school because of Avenged Sevenfold

Same thing happened to me when VH opened for the Rolling stones in 1978. VH stole the show from the Stones.

Man this totally explains why they had MSI on tour with them. Everybody booed the shit out of them when they played. Finally figured that out after like 25 years 😂😢

Getting rich is part of the dream

Noooo… just no. This is a GRUNGE album. If that’s your thing then why are you listening to Vixen in the first place.

Awesome thanks

Dio's version of Ride the Lightning was way better. "will you fuck the lightning, or will you ride it?!" YEAH!

One thing a lot of people don’t talk about is in the early 90s is also when bands like Pantera exploded onto the scene and metal got real brutal real fast..

Here is the Elephant in the room you do not see - In the US we have separation of church and state. This means No state or federal run organization can push a religion on you. But they Have been doing just that for over 100 years and everyone just soaks up the False Religion. I speak of the Heliocentric Cult and it's Big Bang Creation story. It's a false religion that has been forced on you since early childhood where you do not have the skills to fact check the claims. It's 100% indoctrination. You fell for it with every globe in every classroom. Facts are for 70% of water to form a sphere it would have to Fail the Law o Hydrostatic Equilibrium and for you to have an atmosphere that forms a sphere in a vacuum it would have to violate the 2nd law of thermodynamics. Globe Earth is Impossible in physics while physics supports an Earth that is a stationary horizontal plane. No debunking this! Look into it - You were Conned!

My favorite bands are probably Primus, Mr Bungle, Melvins and Fantomas

What a wonderful memory to possess! 🫶

Mr Bungle was my first concert

I kinda like hearing his stories he should do moth radio

For me the change was hearing Rusty Cage, Soundgarden for the first time. The Eighties was over.

Ye thats corn