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Ordinary vs extraordinary means of salvation

What ever you believe is true. You have no authority or proof other wise so if one is true all is true. Or the actual reality is none is true so all is untrue. How ever that scares people so we will stick with the former.

I recomend that Protestants read "Council of Trent: Canons on Justification, Canon 9". Before they talk about what Catholics believe about salvation. 😊 Ignorance is not a good thing! 😅

Jesus speaks about being Born of water and the spirit in John 3. What is the living water that Jesus talks about in John 4 with the Samaritan woman?She told him that she wants that living water. Then he said to her "go and get your husband." She was being convicted. John 7:38-39 "Anyone who believes in me may come and drink! For the Scriptures declare, 'Rivers of living water will flow from his heart. (When he said "living water," he was speaking of the Spirit, who would be given to everyone believing in him. But the Spirit had not yet been given, because Jesus had not yet entered into his glory.) " I believe that the Holy Spirit is the one that convicts. And John 7 describes the living water as being the Holy Spirit. John the Baptist spoke that he baptized with water, but Jesus will baptize you with the Holy spirt. What must we do before we’re saved? Repent, be convicted of your sin. It’s a humbling state of seeing that your sins has been separating you from the Lord, and now you want to reconcile with him. The Holy Spirit will help you!

Salvation has three parts to it: justification, sanctification, and glorification. Justification by faith means that there is nothing we can do to save ourselves from the power of sin. We need a Savior. Sanctification means that by God's Holy Spirit we are empowered to work out our salvation; to overcome the world, the flesh, and the devil. Glorification means that if we endure till the end, we will experience the redemption of our bodies to the glorified state upon His return.

There is absolutely no scripture that says u have to take the Sacraments to be saved. It’s so frustrating that they use the Eucharist to manipulate ppl into thinking they have to be Catholic to be saved. They do this so that ppl will ignore all the rituals that go against God’s Word. I just pray that people will truly spend time seeking God directly, fully surrender and Be Born Again. The Holy Spirit will reveal everything else when u do that.

There always seems to be confusion with protestant on what the ultimate cause of a work is? As catholics, we always believe that any good work is ultimately originated from God and the grace He gives us. We just have to be willful and intentional participants in His grace. The decision is ours, but the cause is God.

Yet with the ecclesiastical groups who don’t do there research again missing the forest for the trees! Listen it’s like this, the apostles are the authority under Christ himself . Therefore there teachings are to be regarded. Any teachings that contradict the apostles is to be disregarded like the bishops can’t marry stuff because Paul taught they could. There were many lists of canons and the Roman church didn’t actually give a list until what the council of Trent for god sakes! So the fact is that the apostles teaching is disregarded in Catholicism and Orthodoxy. Case closed scripture is the apostles teaching. Oh and by the way , show me in the apostles or ante nicene fathers prayers to saints,the theotokos, veneration of icons, and prayers for the dead. Since I mean these were from the early church right ? They aren’t in there.

This isn't a problem because all historical protestants only disagree with church tradition if it goes against scripture. Other than that, we follow it.

Yeah. According to my reading of scripture, the spirit of aloheem is a female which creates a holy family Trinity that the Sun created all of physical reality and the moon and sun of Genesis, 1 verse 16 the 2 powers of creation. Meant to help humanity in our relationship with God. Then, when God wanted to create his final covenant with humanity, he used the moon Holy Spirit, the lesser light to come to reality in reality in the personification of the immaculate conception, which then through that female spirit was able to bore the. Light of creation, which was the Sun? Or the literal Son of God, Jesus Christ, who then sacrificed himself for all the sins of humanity. So we will be reconciled with the holy family trenty. For eternity on new earth which is a combination of a new reformed earth and the heavenly kingdom coming down to dwell on said earth. That's my interpretation of scripture.Why would I be wrong

The KJV Bible is THE ONLY VERSION THAT MATCHES VAST MAJORITY OF THE AUTHENTIC ANCIENT MANUSCRIPTS THAT HAVE BEEN PRESERVED FOR 1000s of years. All others are "doctrines of devils" as it says in the book of revelation.

The Apostles weren't infallible. They made mistakes. Yet you believe their testimony that Jesus died for your sins and arose from the grave on the third day. There is an element of faith there. Informed faith, but faith nonetheless. It is the same with Scripture. We have informed faith that the Holy Scriptures are the divine revelation from God to mankind. We look at the O.T. books which the Jewish people of God preserved and which Jesus quoted from authoritatively, and we look at the N.T. books which the early churchmen (before any Council) quoted as their authority _tens of thousands of times,_ and these facts inform our faith. No mortal human is infallible. You can't gather a bunch of fallible humans into a bundle, call it a Council or a Magisterium, and somehow transform those fallible men into an infallible group. However, God is the author and preserver of His words, and God moved upon fallible men's hearts to issue a list of books which would be an error-free (inerrant) list. Not infallibly, which would imply that the men were incapable of failure, but inerrantly in that the particular action was so inspired by God as to be free from error. Do you see the difference? Yet there is still the element of informed faith on the part of every Christian in regard to that list.

Can I ask you how it’s not morally reprehensible to knowingly create conscious beings with full knowledge and intention of them being used as cannon fodder for your divine wrath? How is the Christian theology any different than a mafia boss extorting you for money then murdering his son in your store when you don’t pay up? How is it different than big pharma and big food corporations working together to get people sick then turn around sell them their medicine? Why do I find the actions of God in the Bible to be so clearly evil, according to the moral standards that apparently this God granted me before birth? Did God know eve would eat the apple? How is she to be condemned if she had no knowledge of good and evil before eating it after being coerced by the serpent that must’ve only existed because God explicitly willed him to?

You don’t know bc it’s all made up dude

The canon is NOT created, it is observed. Traditions and Canons are like references and language. Language makes a word to describe something, references points to reality. Water is a word we created in language which can change its meaning, whereas the water itself, the thing we refer to is a necessary witness and doesn't change.

2:49 and herein lies my diagnosis for the biggest problem with sola scriptura. One can forgive Protestants when it comes to disputes regarding the canon of Scripture. Even today there are differences in canonicity between apostolic Christians and even between churches within the Catholic Church to the extent that some churches will traditionally treat more than 73 books as inspired like the Eastern Orthodox, e.g. Psalm 151 and the Prayer of Manasseh without condemnation and suppression by Rome. One cannot forgive a Protestant for calling the Scriptures themselves an *infallible* rule. It makes no sense to call a text infallible. Perhaps the text contains no error (inerrancy), but how does that translate to being incapable of producing error in one’s understanding of the faith (infallibility)? The moment one defines sola scriptura as the *infallibility* of Scripture as a rule of faith, we get the two problematic doctrines of formal sufficiency and perspicuity by logical necessity. At that point, the individual Christian has elevated themselves to a final authority on any matters they hold with confidence. Hence the Church splinters into as many groups as there are varied interpretations each at odds with one another. PS: At 13:40 you seem to be assuming that the 73 book canon is closed. I’m not convinced Rome has closed the canon. If it has, there would be insurmountable difficulties in reunification with the East. In my estimation, the Magisterium has infallibly declared those 73 books as Scripture, but it has not closed the canon to the possibility of there being other works of Scripture recognized as such by other apostolic Christians. If there is a Magisterial pronouncement that limits canonicity to the 73-books canon that I’m unaware of, please don’t hesitate to share.

Exactly If they remove 7 books from the bible then whos to say the law is not canon or the church is not canon. Protestant reformation started because men were too prideful to go to the Orthodox church they instead did it themselves. Protestants don't rely on the bible as the ultimate authority they think that the founders interpation is the correct authority like John Calvin, Martin Luther etc... Thank you from Orthodoxy ☦☦☦ (And thank you so much for not strawman ing Sola Scriptura your the first Catholic RUclipsr to get it right!)

I have no reason to believe in the canon list of the Council of Trent, either, nor its elevation of the apocrypha and traditions as equal to Scriptures. That's something the church fathers finds heretical. I am unapologetically a Seventh-day Adventist.😎😎😎

I think you've made some good points,

The scriptures is referring to the gospel 👉 1 Cor.15:3-4 KJV Sola scriptura is biblical! As it is written 2 Tim 3:15 And that from a child thou has known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise unto salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. 1 Cor.2:5 KJV That youre faith should not stand in the wisdom of men ,but in the power of God. " Wisdom of men ( catholic canons ,catechism,foctrines written by men) whatever. These are not inspired word of God,wtitten by men of corrupt minds.👎 As it is written 2 Cor.4:7 KJV But we have this treasure in earthen vessel,that the excellency of power may be of God,and not of us. The gospel is the power of God unto salvation! Romans 1:16 -17 All Catholics had an "itching ears" 2 Timothy 4: 3-4 KJV Wake up! again,"Sola scriptura" is biblical ,its referring to the gospel. which most catholics have rejected. 👉 1 Cor.15:3-4 KJV Catechism? 😑 Mind you! The Catholic Church had perverted the gospel of Christ! Apostle paul warned. 👉Galatians 1:6-9 KJV Just like the doctrine " Christian veneration of images", Catechism of the Catholic Church,(CCC para.1232) ❌👎 See. Romans 1:21-25 Catechism? Beware of the falling away from the truth! The Spirit of truth ( The word of truth,the gospel ("the gospel of salvation", the scriptures) Shall be taken out of the way! 👉" The mystery of iniquity " 2 Thess.2:7 KJV For the mystery of iniquity doth already work; only he who now letteth will let,until he taken out of the way. The warning! 2 Thess.2:10-12 kJV 2 Timothy 4:3-4 KJV For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lust shall they heap unto themselves teachers,having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth,and shall be turned unto fables. Matthew 24:11-14 KJV And many false prophets shall rise and shall deceived many. And because iniquity shall abound. The love of many shall wax cold, But he that shall endured unto the end,the same shall be saved. And this gospel of this kingdom shall be preached in all the world as a witness unto all nations; then shall the end shall come. " standfast" 2 Thess.2:14-15 KJV Whereunto he called you by our gospel to the obtaining the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ. Therefore brethren,standfast,and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word( the gospel) and our epistles ( The letters).

To this day I have not found a good answer from the Protestant side on how to know the canon with certainty, since this is not communicated to us from the revealed Text, which for them works as the sole infallible rule of Faith. And this whole "a fallible list of infallible books" thing is not consistent with Protestant behavior regarding the canon. They do not really believe and operate as if they had a fallible list, but as if the 66 Books canon were communicated from the mouth of God Himself as much as the Sermon on the Mount or the Lord's Prayer.

Hey man, I just wanted to say I love your content. I converted and was baptized last year, and I found a deep interest in apologetics. I found your Instagram about 5-6 months ago, and about a month ago, I found your RUclips, and I've loved hearing your content.

Amen!

Saintwave mentioned! You're a legend, bubbe -- love you, man.

Catholicism is corrupted sorry bro

Stop lying.

Your pope is changing the bible!!!!! He himself has corrupted your entire faith!!!!!!!!

We will have to die first. She was assumed into Heaven because of her sinless existence. We cannot say the same. Our body will be joined together or so I have been told.

"help run to her", why are we running to Mary, and not to Christ, our high priest?"" "authoritative church..." No, God has spoken through his prophets in the old days, and in these days he has spoken through HIS SON. not, His CHURCH the sinless Mary and perpetual virgin claims are just Catholic mumbo jumbo. There is ZERO proof of either claim, in fact we know of Jesus' siblings, who converted after his resurrection. You and many other catholics take this view of Mary as the new Ark, it's just not there. One verse that kind of uses the same words and BAM, sinless mary. The only way mary would be sinless, is if she was also conceived of the holy spirit, and yet, we know her genealogy. I'm pretty sure Stephen is the first one to have that reward, since ya know, the bible says so. Come out of the catholic church brother. We don't need Mary to intercede on our behalf. We are not told to follow Mary, we are told to follow Christ. None of this is Biblical.

*THE IMMACULATE CONCEPTION OF MARY* _We're talking about Mary's conception...not the conception of Jesus._ The Immaculate Conception is a doctrine of the Catholic Church which asserts that Mary, the mother of Jesus, was conceived without original sin. This belief holds that from the very first moment of her existence, Mary was preserved by God's grace from the stain of original sin that affects all other humans due to the fall of Adam and Eve. This doctrine emphasizes Mary's purity and her special role in the divine plan of salvation. The Immaculate Conception was declared a dogma of the Catholic Church by Pope Pius IX in 1854. *Mary Needed a Savior* Mary was saved by God in a unique way. From the moment of her conception, Mary was preserved from inheriting the guilt of original sin from Adam. That was a pure, unmerited gift of God to her. Here is an analogy: A doctor can save you from death by curing a disease that threatens you. Or a doctor can save you from death by giving you a vaccine that prevents you from getting the disease in the first place. God saves most of us in the former way; He saved Mary by protecting her from original sin from the moment of her conception. *No Infinite Regression* Does Mary's sinlessness require that her parents, Anne and Joachim, were sinless? And her grandparents before them? And every generation further and further back? No, this infinite regression was not necessary. God prevented the guilt of Adam from being transmitted to Mary. She alone was conceived without sin; there was no need for her parents to be immaculate...just her. And yes, God COULD have simply prevented Jesus from being stained by sin. But that's not what happened.

Great episode 🔥