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What preamp tubes are on these amps? Man they bite!!

both sound killer to me

You need an A/B box for something like this….way too long in between. Nice try bro and thanks!

Nice test thank you very much And greetings from Germany Frank 🤘🤘🤘😎

I remember paying $2,000 for mine and it spent just as much time getting repairs as it did on stage.

They sound the same as if they are the same amp. 🤔

I like to compare side by side soo Reissue- 1:34 Vintage- 3:25

The new one definitely sounds more modern. The original is definitely more articulate. Same brand of tubes?

Original: 3:26 reissue : 1:34

If you don't have the same tubes in both amps they are not going to sound the same.And i don't mean the same brand.They need to be swapped from one to the other otherwise a comprison is totally pointless.If there's Chinese tubes in one amp and JJ's in the other it's like two different amps.

Sounds like the reissue’s still has that “punch”, am I right?

I have played the Powerball 1,Blackmore,Savage 60,Fireball 100 and now I found my dream-sound in the Artist Edition E 651 Blackout.The Savage,Blackmore and the Artist Edition have enough gain to get without a booster in front of the amp many very good metal tones,but they have lesser but more responsive gain stage than the Power and the Fireballs wich both have so much more gain that you ask your self“who needs so much gain?“also the balls sounding smoother and darker.At a specific point they both have so much gain that you can hear no difference in the tone when you turn up the gain.The Savage,Blackmore and Artist have lesser gain but enough for extreme metal.They sounding more dynamic,brighter and.The mids,treble,prescence,gain,bass,and master poti’s are very responsive to each changing of the setting.Also the integrated boost/shape-functions works in another way and more responsive to my ears as the Fire-and Powerball.When you boost a engl than keep it more simple and dont boost the drive section with the pedal.The distortion comes from the amp.-A maxon od808,ibanez ts9 or a boss sd1 works fine.But its all a matter of taste.🤘

1:47 Engl Savage 120 4:14 Engl Fireball Suenan igual La diferencia es que el Fireball esta mas comprimido.

It's all in the expression of the dog's face. Don't think he cares for either . . .!!?? To me it's chalk and . . . well . . . chalk! Both sound very similar and fine. Well at least in this demo they do!! But for mine, Marshall build a shitload too much of top end into almost all of their amps for whatever f'ing reason! My vision of Marshall's testing scenario is thus: 1.) place amp and cabinet in a seriously sound proof room 2.) drape 10 thick blankets over the speaker cabinet before placing recording mic in front of speaker 3.) make sure guy playing guitar through that amp NOT in same room! 4.) Make sure all guys monitoring have lost any semblance of top end in their hearing decades ago and are wearing industrial grade earmuffs 5.) Make sure guitar cable is lowest quality on the planet and 37 miles long 6.) Make sure guitar is on front pick-up with treble wound completely off then play some stuff 7.) Make record of monitoring guys concluding their testing & instructing amp tech, (cockney accent) "Nigel me ol' mate . . . Would you mind buildin' a mite more top end into the circuit please codger? It's frightfully dull!" All the backline hire co.'s in Australia carry the 2203. I'd fucking love to use them but am forced to lug my own 1970s Super Lead 100w Marshalls around. They've been modified to reduce possibility of cutting the heads off of the first 100 rows of people in the audience, not to mention the guy at the sound desk to whom the cabinets are invariably directly pointed . . .! And they STILL have all the top end, 6000DB less than the factory issue 2203, that you could ever want or need!!

The Savage sounds brighter, with a lot more presence and grit. The Fireball (and powerball) have a darker polished sound. Both are fantastic

I think the 2203X sound a little better. I would have liked to have heard them without any pedals etc.

The originals may be good or hit and miss, but you'll never go wrong with the reissue. I was just servicing mine and I'm struck by the beautiful construction and layout. This is how Marshalls ought to be made. Of course the sound is amazing with these too.

I'd like to see a 1981 vs. New

In my opinion, can`t be compared with this kind of recording. It also will depend on tubes(preamp and power) condition and if are the same models. As many says here the vintage one should be 85 at least....

Awesome VS! Thanks

I have a current lunch hot mod that I use a 12au7 & a 12at7. I think I prefer a drive or actually lately, a cold clipper mod (reversible and switchable to a stick setting) that my tech put on my mojotone 2204. Cool vid 🤟🏼

The original all day!!

Great Vid. I had in my place a friend's '81 2204 and I own a 2203x.Played them a/b many times. Unexpectedly The reissue nailed the original in every aspect. Thicker, more gain, and more clear sound.

I think the investment in a reissue is cool because it will age with play over years and you make it your own, not saying vintage gear isn’t kick ass

What's the year of the original 2203?

On your video, Fireball sounds fatter, darker, fuller and warmer.

Either you have a dog or were breathing super heavy while changing around amps. Hehe.. Great video... Do you find the Savage as toneful and organic in person? I find the Fireball very Marshall like.

Yeah yours is not an 81. It’s later than 1985. They changed the tubes in yours. It’s not gonna be an accurate comparison.

How would you rate the Fireball against Powerball MK2 and Savage MK2? I have an ENGL Ironball and want a bigger meaner ENGL with more features.

If I like to listen to metal and party like a wilderbeast which one is best😂

So you didn’t really have these that loud ? They seem to get pretty dirty at a low vol

I liked reissue, looking to get it soon.

I think the original sounds a little warmer....meaning I think the reissue has a little more on the top end.

So much going on here, but first of all. Why not have both amps warmed up and on stand by just before making the comparison? It's pretty obvious that tube amps need a good 5-10 minutes to actually warm up to operating temp. Second why didn't you add an EQ to the 2203X to show what a difference it makes to have one in the effects loop? Especially considering that is the biggest difference between the two!

Expected the reissue to fail. Well, I was wrong. Both versions sound killer. Now I’m in the market for an 800...

You could've used a better mic, with the setup you have, it's almost pointless.... next time use a better mic... even a zoom h2n at the very least...

the fireball is such a great sounding amp, and i love the simplicity of only two channels. and from what i hear, A LOT actually, it doesn't need a boost pedal to sound good like a dual rectifier does, if i could just plug straight into my amp and avoid a boost pedal thats awesome.

Why the TS9? Ruined it..

Don’t do this kind of comparison with active pups. Active pups hide amp and guitar tones.

A great invention, you'll find nowhere... so, what's the deal?

1:35 Reissue 3:27 Original

S/O to Splawn Amps.

Both sound muddy as hell, there are way better examples of these amps sounds by Leon Todd etc. Steampunk, hopefully you are doing something differently nowadays, something went wrong with this..

Your Marshall is not a 1981, it is a horizontal input, those were made later and not the coveted ones. The better JCM 800's were the vertical inputs and not the horizontal. Just saying.

i REALLY WISH U DIDNT USED THE TS9..HARDER TO TELL THE DIFFERENCE..

2203 x more.modern metal...2203 still vontage

Two versions of one of the most coveted heads in rock and roll, and you capture the sound with a camera mic?

Bullshit! These are not test this is yet another amateur who also thinks there sense of!

I hear no difference

Ugh why do people think they need a OD pedal in front of 4 to 5 gain stage amps like this?