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Nope. I stayed pretty dry with the scupper plugs in.

@@markdoutdoors7965 so without them, is it really bad or small enough to be tolerated?

I have wall hooks that I got off of Amazon. They are rated for 100 lbs total. Since the kayak is heavier I also have straps assisting so it takes some of the weight off the hooks.

oh sweet! thanks man @@markdoutdoors7965

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did you figure this out I'm looking at both

Yes. Many don’t realize that but you do have to subtract the hull weight, drive and seat. That is one of the reasons why I purchased the 12.5 over the 10 for the extra weight capacity.

Thanks man! The horizontal rod storage is nice if you do river fishing with lots of low branches.

@@markdoutdoors7965 Yes! Or fishing near shore with many low hanging trees.

It will work but if that is what you mainly will use it in I would recommend something a little more Nimble. This is a wide kayak and long which makes it super stable but it is not as maneuverable as something a little smaller and narrower.

I have not tried either one of those. However when I was purchasing the RS117 I also briefly looked and the Flint but ultimately decided on the RS117. It kept popping up as one of the best you can buy in its price range.

It depends on if you plan on running class 2 or higher rapids. The Bite has so much initial stability, it's actually hard to edge, which I actually appreciate for the headwaters I mainly fish. I have the Bite. I was really pleasantly surprised at how well it paddles against the current. Even with the seat trimmed all the way forward it is still very manoeuvrable, too. The rs117 and flint would do better for edging in heavy rapids.

The handles are made well. I never had any issues with them or worried about them failing.

@@markdoutdoors7965 Thanks

The seat cannot be lowered. It just moves forward and back.

Not sure. Honestly think it was a cost thing

Some places it’s a law if you have over 4 ft hanging out the edge of truck you need to GM have a flag and light for night time for safety.

I think I can make that happen!

Please looking into the recon 120

Not bad but the Bonafide paddled much better. The Recon is like 4 inches wide and about 30lbs heavier but it doesn’t paddle bad once you get it going.

Yeah right after I filmed the video I realized that hahaha. Thanks!

I’m know me too lol

That is a great question. I honestly loved the Recon 120. My initial intent was to purchase the Recon 120 and then purchase the pedal drive and add it to the kayak at a later time. After owning the kayak I researched the drive and found it extremely difficult to find to purchase. Also after researching I found that the Native Propel drive seems to be a better overall over all drive with a great warranty. I loved the stability, the internal storage from the huge front hatch and how high the seat was. The high seat made it extremely easy to stand. As far as the Slayer Max I wanted the Propel drive, under the seat storage tray that slides out, side panels to drill into to run wires with out drilling into the kayak. I have not had it out on the water yet so once I do that I can give a more thorough comparison. Hope that answers your question.

Yes it is!!!

Thank you. I’ll do a full review on the Slayer 12.5 soon. I have not yet had the opportunity to take the Slayer 12.5 out on the water yet but I know the weight capacity is 500lbs. I believe the Hobie is around 425. Personally for the price I would do the Slayer or Titan. It’s less money and it has instant reverse with the pedal drive.

Well it wasn’t because there was any love lost. The Recon is my favorite kayak that I have owned. I love the in hull storage to transport my rods, the seat height, the stability, horizontal rod storage oh and the stability lol. When I purchased it I had intentions of getting the pedal drive for it because my end goal Is to eventually have a pedal drive kayak. After careful consideration and a lot of research I decided to part ways to get a Native. The main reason is Native’s 701 pedal drive. It is tried and proven, has the built in weed guard and an amazing warranty. I also like the drawer under the seat, built in forward facing rod holder and two rear rod holders, sacrificial plates so you don’t have to drill in the boat, and horizontal rod placements. I have not had it out on the water to do a direct comparison but I am excited to get it out. By the time I purchased the pedals for the Recon I would be paying more in total than just purchasing the Native Slayer and found one local from a great Kayak shop and got it.

I’m 5’11 230 and is super stable

@@markdoutdoors7965 I picked one up a couple weeks ago, haven’t had it out yet, but I’m slightly nervous. I’m 6’3 300 and I’m just wondering how stable it’s still gonna be with 80 extra lbs

@@nickallen3087 I think you will be ok. It’s a very wide kayak . The only other kayak I would say is more stable is maybe Native Titan

@@nickallen3087 how did it do? I'm 6'6 300 and want to get this kayak

@@MrCherrygrovedude haven’t had it out yet. I picked it up though. It’s a nice yak, im actually having a little buyers remorse and regretting not getting the native slayer 12.5 as it seems more well built and has a lot more features. I’ll let you know here in a couple weeks if the extra width is worth the sacrifice of the better kayak in the native.

Absolutely! Best place in the DMV area to purchase a kayak. It is always a pleasure chatting with you. You are always extremely helpful. I can’t wait to get it out on the water! Thanks again for everything!

Thanks! Yeah I figured that out right after I did the video hahaha

It retails for 1400 right now

I absolutely love the internal hull storage. I transport all my rods inside the hull when traveling.

I ended up ordering something that isn't available yet, so i can review a fresh new kayak this spring.

@@OnlyFins Nice! What are you getting? I liked the Recon, a lot but I am picking up a Native Slayer Max 12.5 in a couple of days myself.

I ordered a Bonafide RVR119

@@OnlyFins Very Nice! That’s a nice looking kayak. Bonafides are such a great kayak.