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Joe Turkel originally said that the Tyrell that Roy met was a machine.

and yet, no one did.

@@jrs4516 Very true but i did. 3 times in fact. Each time taking different friends or relations.

@@furrybear57 this is NOT JUST a movie, this is a TREASURE. 24 kt AU.

I saw this when it came out, in theaters. Amazing movie, even more dramatic back then. He did make that statement in the theatrical release. Apparently, Ridley didn't like that or the narration and corrected those in subsequent reissues. There was no internet, and no DVD's even back then so all this extra material trickling out over the decades has been interesting to see.

⁠@@JohnJohn-fz6ntfucker was in the Directors Cut though?

I noticed it straight away, wokism in action right there. The word, in the context it was made for, was perfect. Glad others noticed too.

@@Garth-e3b Correct! The original is much more powerful & hints at what's to come. The difference in tone between FUCKER & FATHER is huge & was intentional.

It's not an easy thing to meet your Maker.

@@HardRockMaster7577 In this case, I rather think Tyrell took a perverse joy in tossing up reasons, REAL OR NOT, that Roy's lifespan couldn't be extended. Joe Turkel did a *GREAT* job here.

@@HardRockMaster7577 It's even more difficult to kill Him.

Am I reading it correctly that a minority person could emphasize with a replicant, whereas a majority population person (read: white) can't? Just curious here.

@@chinchilla415 No. That's not at all what I was saying, my bad if it came off that way. What I meant is simply a minority of all people as a whole who have seen and are fans of this movie. You see, Blade Runner is what's called a cult classic. It's not mainstream popular like, say, Star Wars--after all, who hasn't seen Star Wars at least once? But those(a MUCH smaller percentage) who have seen Blade Runner and like it, tend to be huge fans of it. Hence, the term cult classic. So since only a minority of people are fans of and understand BR, only a minority could empathize with Roy and his fellow Replicants. No hard feelings about the misunderstanding, hope I did a better job explaining myself this time..... : )

When I watch this film I definitely sympathize with Roy and have a rather negative view of Tyrell throughout the film. When I get to this scene it changes my opinion on Tyrell, he seems to know his fate and faces it very bravely. He does not lie to Roy. He is very much the father in this scene "The facts of life." they are the facts in Roy's case. While presumably Roy could have been built with a longer life span we don't know if that was a practicable choice for Tyrell. Replicants are tightly regulated by law, while Tyrell's company wields tremendous power even they must be careful when they break the law (this isn't really clear in the film it is in the book). It is at this time that I think about why the replicants were made. It is a little unclear, is it the Prometheus answer "Because we can?". Was it just to have super slaves to work off world? This is the explanation with the most direct support in the material film and book. This scene is what makes me think it might not quite be it. The earth is a devastated planet that can no longer support life in the long run and the colonies are only better by virtue of not being irradiated. Maybe the replicants were supposed to replace the humans eventually, to be the next stage of human development by our own hand because evolution could not be trusted to find a solution and wouldn't have the time to do it anyway. Despite his suffering Roy was an important step in this development (maybe). In time the reality of the position humanity was in would be undeniable and laws governing replicants may have changed or become unenforceable necessity allowing replicants to be built with a full lifespan and even reproduce and become the new human species. I think this is supported by Rachel being a clear improvement and the implication that Deckard is a replicant himself at the end of the film. In the book he finds a frog in the wasteland that turns out to be a replicant. I take from this that we are meant to embrace the replicants as our successors, able to survive where we can not on an earth no longer able to support us due to our own actions. Is this the ultimate goal of Tyrell? Imposable to know, if so then I think Tyrell isn't the villain. If not then the cruelty of his actions is more villainess. Either way there is something of a parental heroic arc here. Sending your children out into the world knowing that they will suffer is something every parent must do because all people suffer. Roy will have a short life because he was made that way. How much control over that decision Tyrell had is unknown (I think that law probably restricted how much life ca be given). What is known is that he would burn half as long so it was up to him to burn twice as bright and if Tyrell had left him in the test tube he wouldn't have had even that. At the end Roy loved life so much that he wouldn't let his enemy die. A true piece of art that is thought provoking and open to interpretation this film and the book that inspired it are a real treat.

I think Roy being so vulnerable is not out of character at all. I completely felt his sadness and loneliness even in his menacing moments. Great acting by Hauer.

@@benparks9397 Tyrell strikes me as a possibly CORRUPT arrogant rat - bastard. His dwelling seems like what I'd imagine a papal apartment to be like, as well. Roy was *certainly no hero* but simply calling him a *" villain "* is pigeonholing him.

On a dvd, I used to burn loads back in the day. Sadly the episodes I have up are the only ones I've found, feel free to download them and save them yourself. I have no idea what happened to Vismund42 but god do I miss him, he was one of my favourite Z tier youtubers.

Its art