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Thanks. Yes, I was looking for the fastest tire that still provided some confidence on the trails. Outside of the stock Bontragers, the tires I remember trying were the Pirelli Cinturato Gravel Hs and the Schwalbe - Marathon Ebike and Touring Wire Clincher tires. The Pirellis were faster but also prone to punctures. The Schwalbes were the most durable tire I found, but were definitely not built for speed. I didn't get any flats with that tire. I'm currently riding an FX Sport 4 carbon now, exclusively on the road, and am using 28mm Continental Grand Prix 5000s. The Continentals transformed the bike into one that's much faster and I haven't had any issues with them yet. I highly recommend them for road use. For the DS2 I'd say go with the Schwalbes, but in the narrowest size you're comfortable with.

@@JitinMisra I like it. It’s good for its intended purpose. Is it a clicking or creaking sound? Sometimes my bike makes a creaking sound and it’s probably the carbon frame near the crank. I don’t mind it.

@@bc67 For me it only happens at times when i'm spinning the crank /pedaling? I'm not sure what the heck it is, but i don't think it is just carbon frame because, else it wouldn't happen only when i'm pedaling.

@@JitinMisra I’ve heard of this before. It’s been reported as being at the crank and due to a carbon frame. I wouldn’t worry about it unless you see a crack somewhere. I write it off as one of the natures of carbon frame.

@@bc67 hmm, i'm not sure if i'd get a carbon frame. when you say you heard this before, you mean you experienced it on your bike personally ?

@@JitinMisra yes and I’ve read about it.

Thanks for your feedback. I have the ergo-grips on my FX Sport 4 and have tried multiple adjustments to the grips but still experience numbness after about 30 minutes. I'll take another look but for me I think it's a matter of having only one hand position and that the handlebars are positioned where there's a good amount of pressure on my hands. I've also tried adjusting my seat to lessen the pressure, but then my stroke becomes too shallow.

... rotate the grips' up until the flats' of your palm rest lightly on the flats of the grips ... that leaves your finger tips free to use the controls (brakes, shifters) ... it is "counter-intuitive" . Only light pressure on your hands ( you steer by your palms) you may need to move your seat slightly fore/aft to help w/ your arm length. On my bike I have on the left a "front suspension" lock-out that operates by my left thumb ... so I need my fingers to be free ... and not numb ... I also have "bi-lateral torn rotator cuffs" ... so I can not put too much pressure on my shoulders ... an up-right pedaling position is best for me on the "DS" ... now I do have a 2013 Domane 5.2 w/ tubeless tires (@16 lbs 4oz) for road work on smooth paved surfaces ... so a good road bike for you is next ... HaHa

@@harrymurphey2634 you are so right! Over the few years I’ve been riding, I’ve gotten a better feel for the terrain I ride on and the style of riding I like. Hybrids aren’t the best for it.

.... depends ... different tools for different applications ... I ride sometimes on "road rides" .... sometimes I ride on "rail-to-trails" that are sometimes gravel/semi-paved ... I do also have a MTB but I have decided dodging trees is not for me .... I would suggest trying to find a used Domane 2013-2016 w/ a triple front for your hills (Granny is your friend) ... they have changed the newer bikes and not for the better ...

I ran them for the majority of the time that I had that bike, and I agree that they’re great. They’re not the fastest tires in the world, but they definitely are durable and good for trail rides.

Glad it was helpful. I had to call Shimano for the torx size because it’s not printed anywhere. A 16 MPH average over a 2-3 hour ride on that bike would be very fast unless ridden with next to no elevation gain. The best I’ve been able to do is the mid to high 13s over moderately hilly 15-20 mile rides.

Thanks, no elevation on the crush gravel and tarmac paths in Illinois. Got some 35 tires ready to put on just to soften the ride a little. Still have the original chain with 3600 miles from last yr. Chain gauge still showing some miles to go. Bontrager r1 still looking good also. I'll have to change out soon, plam on shootin for 7000m this summer. Happy riding

Nice upgrades! I put a GRX 42t chainring up front and just changed the tires to 28mm GP5Ks and it’s much faster than stock. I do get numb hands like you said. How easy was it to convert to drop bars?

Idk what’s going on with the comment feature - I posted a reply twice but it doesn’t show up. Anyway, I got MTB bars, not drop bars. The LBS set it up for me, but I don’t think it’s that much work outside of cutting down the length of the bars.

@@johnyoon5399 Thanks for the info. I was thinking the numbness I'm experiencing was from a lack of multiple hand positions available but will look in to carbon handlebars and the grips you mentioned. The upgrade should be DIY if I can find the same size as stock. I forgot to mention that I put Race Face pedals on too, but the less aggressive Ride pedals, which work great.

@@bc67 I do think the lack of different hand positions plays a part, but I’ve found that cushioning, in the form of thicker bar tape or grips with more cushion, go a LONG way. For instance, I used to get numb hands on my aluminum road bike using 2mm thick bar tape. I put on 2.5 mm bar tape and lo and behold, haven’t had numb hands since. And the Deity grips are something you need to try to believe, they’re that good. As far as bar width - the stock bars are narrower than most aftermarket bars I’ve seen so I think you’ll likely need to get them cut. I think I got mine cut down to 720mm, which is a touch wider than stock (on Medium size) but works well for me.

@@bc67I actually think the Ride pedals are a better fit for the bike too lol - I was surprised when I tried the Chester’s and they put a death grip on my shoes. Oh, and one more thing, the stock Bontrager wheels are quite heavy - very close to 2kg per wheel if I remember correctly. Getting 1500-1600g wheels makes a HUGE difference in acceleration. I have the Hunt 34 Aero Wide’s as well as the Hunt 4 Season All Roads and both are huge upgrades.

Yes if it’s a relatively flat ride.

That’s cool. You must be hitting the trails a lot? I’ve gone the other way with 32s on this one and will replace them with 30s or 28s at some point given all the road riding I do.

@@bc67 do the local wednesday evening gravel ride.

Looking up reviews of this bike as I've just figured my fx2 has just been robbed 😭 I'm just wondering is the carbon frame worth it. I used to do an odd 135mile cycle plus a lot of city rides

I wouldn't describe them as clunky but the levers aren't long enough. I don't like having to reach in to switch the shorter lever.

Shifting was OK but to be honest, I don't recommend this bike for the type of riding it sounds like you're going to do, and because of the lifting you're going to have to do. One thing I learned about this bike is that it tries to be everything, but can't. It's not great on the road because of its weight (~30 lbs), geometry, and wider tires, and it's not great off road because the suspension isn't robust enough. I recommend looking for an FX instead if you're looking to buy Trek.

@@bc67 thanks for the feedback, One of my big concerns always was budget (more scared of it being stolen than spending) I already have one with quite big tires and it goes okay on the road, with potholes and on gravel (not the best roads near me), but its very old and suspension do not really even work. At this point everything is upgrade but I am still windering if going to this model might be the way or not.

It's 9 pounds lighter and around 20% faster than my Dual Sport 2, but if you're going to upgrade, and don't want to spend a lot, I recommend looking at a Domane ALR aluminum road bike. Go for a 2 by something gear-set instead of a 1x11 like this bike has, and I recommend drop bars for climbing and additional hand positions to avoid numbness. In hindsight, it's worth the extra money if you're going to be doing a lot of road riding.

@@bc67 how many miles and minutes is you average ride ?

@@JitinMisra I do 15-20 mile rides in a hilly area over about an hour and a quarter average. It's a fitness bike, better for shorter flatter rides than a road bike.

@@bc67 did you notice a huge advantage with carbon and isospeed, in the ride quality (not weight)?

@@JitinMisra The ride quality is improved, yes. Go take one for a test ride!

Hello and thanks for your comment! This bike is a medium, and the widest tire that can fit on it, without fenders, is a 35c. With fenders it’s 32c. The new models come with 40s and you can put up to a 42 on them so you might want to consider one of them. I think you’d be fine on this 2021 model with some good 35c tires like the Schwalbe Marathon though. Feel free to let me know if you have any other questions.

@@bc67 good to know! I’m definitely someone who would want to run 40’s, so I’ll hold out for a more recent model! Thanks!

Thank you. That’s a solid weekly workout on this bike especially if it’s hilly. I always have the suspension locked so it doesn’t absorb energy, unless I know I’m going to be on bumpy terrain for a while. I totally agree about having a mirror and use it regularly on my rides.

Yes I had Kenda Kwest tires on at the time but they didn’t last too long. I replaced them with Schwalbe Mrathons which are much more durable for the roads and trails I ride on.

@@bc67 The OEM tires seem to be wearing quickly on mine...and I have almost 600 miles on them. I bought a set of Schwalbe winter tires for my older mountain bike and they perform well.

@@325xitgrocgetter The Marathons aren’t too fast but they’re very durable!

Thanks for the info on the tire liners. I removed the Kendas pretty quickly because of getting multiple flats within a few weeks. Tire liners may have prevented that. I changed back to Schwalbe Marathons that while heavy and slow, have been incredibly durable.

Reach. Bikes that fit my inseam have too short of a reach.

That’s a Mirrycle mirror. mirrycle.com/product/mirrycle-mirror/

Good call. You're right, and I agree that this is a good commuter bike especially within flatter areas. I also like that I can dart off on to a rail trail or off-road bike path if I want to.

In a previous comment you said the bike wasn't great on either. @@bc67

@@CazSmith correct

Good vid. All helps. Choosing next bike.@@bc67

I found myself in the same boat as you. I thought I'd be doing much more off-road riding than I actually am.

I got all three...... a DS 3, FX4 Sport Carbon, and a Marlin 6. Have all the bases covered. You never have enough bikes in the stable. If I really want to push it off road I get out the Fuel EX 8. On road the Trek Madone. Do an occasional time trial on the Trek TTX Equinox 9.9 carbon bike Retirement is nice. Someday you guys will get there.

@@Mike-up6go That is great. I am glad that you get to be so active in your retirement. Keep moving friend

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Thank you so much sir👍🏽

I wouldn't recommend that. The only scenario I where I might recommend it is where there is next to no elevation gain, you've replaced the stock tires with 35mm slicks, and it's an infrequent ride. I did a 40 mile/64 km club ride with a 2,400 foot elevation gain on that bike and found it to be a struggle.

No never. It’s the size I recommend buying because it can fit a spare inner tube, bike lock, and a few other things.

@@bc67 I ended up getting the bag , just can’t figure out how you ended up mounting the light? I have a Bontrager flat R city light for the rear

​@@JitinMisra Search for the Bontrager Tail Light Seat Pack Clip. You attach your light to it and then clip it to the bag.

Thank you. I believe it's a 2021 and the color is Metallic Gunmetal.

That all depends on the elevation gain of the particular ride. I can say it’s definitely not an A or B club ride bike, especially with the tires I’m using now (Schwalbe Marathon 38mm). It’s more like a C or gravel speed. Sometimes I look at my GPS and I’m going 20 plus MPH and sometimes much slower. I definitely don’t recommend buying this bike if speed is important to you.

Today I rode 12.2 miles with an 800 foot elevation gain and my average speed was 10.2 MPH.

If you have a lot of pot holes the suspension will help with that. If you upgrade to the Dual Sport 2, you can lock out the suspension when you don't need it.

And if you like blowing money, get the DS-4 that has a hand suspension-changer thing so you don’t have to reach down and lock the suspension manually

It is DuoTrap compatible with a mounting area on the chainstay, but it does not come with the sensor.

That's a Mirrycle mirror.

Great! I’m glad to hear that, and thanks for your interest in more videos.

I love the looks of those tires and they would have been my choice but I couldn't find them in a 38. But they look fast so maybe I'll try them in a 40 after these Kendas wear out and see how they are. Thanks for your suggestion.

He definitely rocked that night! I enjoyed watching him. Thanks for the info!