Funkhouser Race Cars
Funkhouser Race Cars
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68 74 Nova NHRA 8.50 cert roll cage
Hey everybody in youtube land!! I finally got a cage kit setup for the 68-74 Nova chassis. The cage is 1.625 083 4130 tubing. It had an integrated seat mounting tube, corner gussets for extra support and help with expansion to a 25.x cert, dash bar is behind the dash as well are the A-pillar bars, floor plates are 6x6 1/8" mild steel and have options such as- removeable door bars, solid door bars, or a door x to further help the expansion. Thanks as always!!
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Видео

Funkhouser Fabricated Housing
Просмотров 4,4 тыс.День назад
What's up fellow race car people!! 2024 was the year of the fabricated housing...actually that's probably not 100% true, but I did finish up my housings for production! I'm pretty happy with them! Here is a long ass video about them. I cover how they are made, the fixture I made to assembly them, the options you can select. I covered many of the suspension parts I make that can go with these as...
IFS Buggy 1.0!
Просмотров 36028 дней назад
I know what you are thinking...this doesn't sound like drag racing related content...this time you are correct! It's a little different then what I normally do but it's also very cool. Here is the first video of the build out of my new IFS AWD kick ass racer special dirt car!
Traction Bar Spring plates 2 0
Просмотров 1,4 тыс.Месяц назад
What's up RUclips!!!! I decided I missed a whole bunch of data in my last traction bar spring plate video. This video is long but covers many features and specific options you'll need to know to get the proper plate. I finished editing this video and realized there is even more info to cover!! I left out the clevis that adapts the standard style shock mount into an S10 type plate. More ideas fo...
Chevy 2 complete rear suspension overview.
Просмотров 1,1 тыс.Месяц назад
I have covered the Chevy 2 rear suspension a couple times now. It's very popular so I figured I would do a little show and tell on a complete install we just finished. The customer already had the housing, we shortened it to 45.5" housing end to housing end for a total wheel mount surface of 50.5". Add brake rotors and some 15x10 wheels with a 5" backspace and we will probably have to add a sma...
Traction bar spring plates
Просмотров 5 тыс.Месяц назад
This video is an overveiw of traction bar spring plates. I cover many of the features that come standard and optional to help meet your needs.
Everything Rod Ends
Просмотров 5402 месяца назад
What's up RUclips!! I wanted to put together some info on the measuring and identifying rod ends (often called heim joints). This video digs into some methods of measuring, traction bar system size joints, irregular joints, and some pointers on how the rod ends might be identified using their AN part number. I started off thinking the video would be 10-15 mins long, it ended up being 30...who r...
2.0MG!! Anti-roll bar overview!!
Просмотров 4772 месяца назад
Ive been looking at adding a high-end line of parts to my line-up. I've been looking at building a heavy-duty ARB that was also light enough to not be silly. The tube length is 36"...which is wayyyyy longer then 95% of the applications out there. I'll be working on getting this thing install and tested soon enough. Look for a Pro-Series parts line-up at funkhouerracecars.com in the future.
25 3 Cage Kit
Просмотров 1,6 тыс.3 месяца назад
I put together a few tips and tricks on assembling a 25.3 cage kit.
S10 Sliders
Просмотров 1,5 тыс.3 месяца назад
Title says it all! Some details about the sliders, hardware overview, and I went ahead and stuck the short install video in there as well. I also put the short video about pressing the bushings into the spring as well. I'd say this is a word vomit of instructions, mumbling, and hopefully a few answered questions with any luck...lol Enjoy ladies and gents!
Funkhouser Race Cars universal Chassis Mounter Billet Anti Roll Bar
Просмотров 4364 месяца назад
The description spills the beans. I made this short video to explain the parts that come in an FRC universal billet steel arb kit. These kits feature clear anodized billet aluminum bushing housings, cnc machined Delrin bushings, 4130 rod ends, and cnc machined weld on style steel ARB arms. This kit is easy to adapt to many different applications and will help keep your racecar headed down track...
25.3 Tube Chassis Overview
Просмотров 1,6 тыс.4 месяца назад
Here is a chassis we make for 62-67 chevy 2's. We have 62-65 post and hardtop as well as 66-67 hardtop only. We can supply this chassis tack welded or fully welded in many different configurations. This one has no double frame rails, but they can be added. This car has a complete 4-link suspension, we can also do a stock leaf spring style suspension as well. Check out Funkhouserracecars.com for...
Billet Angled Lowering Blocks
Просмотров 3374 месяца назад
After many people asking I decided to add billet angled blocks to the website. I will be stocking 2* 4* 6* 1.25" tall blocks in 6061 aluminum.
Blue Car update and crimpin' some fancy hoses
Просмотров 1,5 тыс.5 месяцев назад
The thrash to make LS fest is here...is it possible??
Funkhouser Race Cars NBS Slider kit
Просмотров 5045 месяцев назад
Here is a little overveiw of the NBS bolt-on style slider brackets. This clarifies the proper orientation of the slider mount brackets, and some features of the parts.
Chevy 2 relocation kit
Просмотров 7 тыс.6 месяцев назад
Chevy 2 relocation kit
Ford 9 inch housing
Просмотров 6526 месяцев назад
Ford 9 inch housing
62-67 Chevy 2 roll cage install.
Просмотров 1,5 тыс.8 месяцев назад
62-67 Chevy 2 roll cage install.
AMX Slider Install overview
Просмотров 2308 месяцев назад
AMX Slider Install overview
New billet flange for intercooler watertanks.
Просмотров 128Год назад
New billet flange for intercooler watertanks.
2023 Lights Out 14 Young Brothers LDR Corvette
Просмотров 255Год назад
2023 Lights Out 14 Young Brothers LDR Corvette
Leaf Spring Slider Bushing Install
Просмотров 5 тыс.Год назад
Leaf Spring Slider Bushing Install
square s10 bent and notched cage kit
Просмотров 2,5 тыс.Год назад
square s10 bent and notched cage kit
Hanging out with my buddy Dave Franklin.
Просмотров 4142 года назад
Hanging out with my buddy Dave Franklin.
Roll-cage tech tip
Просмотров 7 тыс.2 года назад
Roll-cage tech tip
More boostin in the dirt
Просмотров 752 года назад
More boostin in the dirt
Little dirt truck drag racing
Просмотров 772 года назад
Little dirt truck drag racing
Who doesn't love turbo noises??
Просмотров 532 года назад
Who doesn't love turbo noises??
62-67 Chevy 2 Leaf Spring Relocation
Просмотров 5 тыс.3 года назад
62-67 Chevy 2 Leaf Spring Relocation
62-67 Chevy 2 Spring Relocation kit
Просмотров 1,7 тыс.3 года назад
62-67 Chevy 2 Spring Relocation kit

Комментарии

  • @TonysHotRodGarage
    @TonysHotRodGarage 4 дня назад

    What a beast of a housing! First class product Matt. I did watch the entire video, lots of great information to soak up.🏁

  • @peterreynolds1881
    @peterreynolds1881 5 дней назад

    I love your cages fitment.I wish you had Mopar stuff I would be ordering one now.

  • @mtgbrkr1
    @mtgbrkr1 5 дней назад

    Looks really good Matt!

  • @randyengelbrecht9978
    @randyengelbrecht9978 5 дней назад

    Awesome stuff, im going to need one for my 70Nova, how much ship to Ks.

    • @funkhouserracecars
      @funkhouserracecars 5 дней назад

      email me at matt@funkhouserracecars so i can get a shipping quote, thanks!

  • @thedukeofspeed
    @thedukeofspeed 5 дней назад

    I subscribed, I like it, I need one just like that for my 1967 firebird, I really like the gussets, it's beautiful.. I want one with street door bars.. I'm gonna call you right now...

    • @funkhouserracecars
      @funkhouserracecars 5 дней назад

      Thanks buddy! I got your email, working on answering it this morning. Thanks!

  • @nosnerd1967
    @nosnerd1967 5 дней назад

    Very nice !

  • @ultra4suzukisamurai679
    @ultra4suzukisamurai679 10 дней назад

    What wall thickness on the axle tubes?

  • @ominousrumbling9040
    @ominousrumbling9040 10 дней назад

    A bit off topic, but is “Funkhouser” your name or is it a play on words since you fab rear end housings? The reason I ask is my Granny’s name was Funkhouser.

    • @funkhouserracecars
      @funkhouserracecars 10 дней назад

      Yeah, my last name is Funkhouser. Ive been told it was spelled different prior to our arrival in WW2...Im not sure if thats true or not. Was that a nickname?? or?

    • @ominousrumbling9040
      @ominousrumbling9040 10 дней назад

      Cool, maybe we’re related. No my nickname growing up is offensive and I wouldn’t want to subject you or your viewers.

    • @funkhouserracecars
      @funkhouserracecars 9 дней назад

      ​@@ominousrumbling9040lol...i heard plenty when i was growing up. it started to become awesome in high school...and now i have built in brand reconigition

  • @jepautoworks1153
    @jepautoworks1153 11 дней назад

    Bitchen work Mattt!

  • @benrossbach6501
    @benrossbach6501 11 дней назад

    Absolutely listened to the whole thing. Lots of little tid tib wisdom. Thanks

  • @RogerBell-k1w
    @RogerBell-k1w 11 дней назад

    What would the price difference be in the tog vs mig option? Any difference other than the weld process? Curious what would be the advantage of a CM rear end other than weight?

    • @funkhouserracecars
      @funkhouserracecars 11 дней назад

      Hey buddy! I think MIG vs TIG would be something like 250$ savings...from a pure time to weld standpoint. As for 4130 vs MS, the weight savings only comes from using thinner wall thickness. The weight of the raw material is the basically the same. The tensile strength advatage from 4130 would make.a stronger part, otherwise thats about it. I would still use ER70-S2 to weld it all the together. The real big benefit with 4130 parts is if you heat treat them. They get harder and wayyy stronger. But there will be post process things that need to happen after the parts are heat treated, and you'll need to use proper filler etc etc. It can get out of control price wise. Ive seen some cars running 4.1x with a 3.0" mild steel fabricated housing...non-floater as well...so I feel like where most of my customers live, mild steel makes sense. I can make these from 4130, but the price will reflect.

    • @RogerBell-k1w
      @RogerBell-k1w 11 дней назад

      I was just curious on the CM lol…. Can’t afford that. I would personally be interested in the mug welded housing from a budget standpoint. I’m building the budget S10 and want it nice but mig makes sense for me I think. I was the one that called yesterday on the s10 cage. Love watching your videos and they’re very informative!!

    • @funkhouserracecars
      @funkhouserracecars 11 дней назад

      ​@@RogerBell-k1w​I think a mig option would be perfect buddy!! I probably underrate the MIG welded housing just because of my bias towards TIG...but for what you want to do...that would be perfect! This def helps me on my desicion wether or not to offer a MIG version

  • @TheMiningCabinet
    @TheMiningCabinet 14 дней назад

    Question for you. Floor tin work on the top or the bottom? Seems easier on the bottom and makes a belly pan. Con, seems a lot to bang your feet on...thinking for a drag n drive car.

    • @funkhouserracecars
      @funkhouserracecars 14 дней назад

      100% We always tin the bottom. Mild steel for the firewall and under the driver silicone bronzed in. For the inside of the car, we build platform for the pedals. Its adjustable forward and back, and is pretty comfortable for your feet to rest. thanks for the comment

    • @TheMiningCabinet
      @TheMiningCabinet 14 дней назад

      @@funkhouserracecars anywhere to see pictures of that setup

    • @funkhouserracecars
      @funkhouserracecars 13 дней назад

      @@TheMiningCabinet email me at matt@funkhouserracecars.com and I'll get you some pics. Im working on developing a weld-it-yourself footrest/pedal assembly where the pivot is mounted on needle bearings that are fit in billet aluminum housings. Ill gladly share what I have so far. Thanks!!

  • @patrickmoore1017
    @patrickmoore1017 20 дней назад

    Fantastic work

  • @so-flamotorsports7491
    @so-flamotorsports7491 22 дня назад

    Can we weld this kit in ?

    • @funkhouserracecars
      @funkhouserracecars 22 дня назад

      Yes sir, no issue with welding it in. I made it bolt in for the ease.

  • @young11984
    @young11984 26 дней назад

    Looks like some nice parts but i had to mute the video at 2:30 since a lot of what you were saying was drown out by the music, too annoying to try to listen to you over music. Again looks like some good parts though

    • @funkhouserracecars
      @funkhouserracecars 26 дней назад

      fair enough. I didnt have a mic for all of the shots in this video. There was a bunch of back ground noise i was trying to dull in the edit. Ill see if I can fix it and re-upload it. Thanks for taking the time to comment.

  • @jeffallen3382
    @jeffallen3382 28 дней назад

    GOAT Built has a cool tube chassis jeep style runner.

    • @funkhouserracecars
      @funkhouserracecars 27 дней назад

      Drew makes some cool stuff for sure. I currently have an ibex chassis car. Has leading and trailing arms a big block chevy with a 91mm turbo, bypasses and all the rest.

    • @jeffallen3382
      @jeffallen3382 27 дней назад

      @@funkhouserracecars nice! I posted that comment before I realized you're doing an independent front suspension. Not sure if the ibex comes with an IFS option? The one you're doing here looks strong as hell!

    • @funkhouserracecars
      @funkhouserracecars 27 дней назад

      ​@@jeffallen3382no worries! to my knowledge, no ifs options from GB. But maybe hes workin on it...never know. Ive done 4 solid axle cars now, this was the natural progression for me. I love building stuff!! and learning everything i can on the way

  • @miguelitojeep
    @miguelitojeep 28 дней назад

    nice work! Looking forward to see this thing rip!

  • @ashtrak8408
    @ashtrak8408 Месяц назад

    do a 68-72 Nova setup next

    • @funkhouserracecars
      @funkhouserracecars Месяц назад

      Im working on it right now. I can only move the spring in a tiny bit at the front without massive overhaul. I already build a 1.75" offset slider for the back that helps to make that additional tire clearance for the back of the spring.

    • @ashtrak8408
      @ashtrak8408 28 дней назад

      @@funkhouserracecars thank you for your reply.

  • @ajforms4818
    @ajforms4818 Месяц назад

    excellent

  • @njctd03
    @njctd03 Месяц назад

    Wooooo!!! Let’s get it. I’m going to be ordering soon for my wagon!

  • @chrisyanez2299
    @chrisyanez2299 Месяц назад

    Matt , have you designed a kit for the Obs , 99-04, Cat eye yet ? i know the shop was working on a obs a few months ago and i suck with socials to keep up . your doing good man keep it up . ive seen some chatter in texas about the stuff you're putting out and its all good ! im hoping to get started in the next year on a pickup. {might Even be a dentside ferd !} Its more than likely gonna a cat eye . Love it man Keep Em' vids coming .

    • @funkhouserracecars
      @funkhouserracecars Месяц назад

      Yes sir! I have the 99-06 single cab cage. The obs we are doing is a 3/4 chassis deal, so the cage info I have doesn't include the factory floor. I should have gotten the info beforehand. Im working on a complete rear suspension kit for the obs as well. I saved the back section of the frame so I could design the parts.

  • @jeffpistritto9524
    @jeffpistritto9524 Месяц назад

    Sick ! Now I want a box nova again ! 😂

  • @stevenme3587
    @stevenme3587 Месяц назад

    Awesome work guys!!!

    • @funkhouserracecars
      @funkhouserracecars Месяц назад

      thanks buddy!

    • @riggedandjimmiedgarage7268
      @riggedandjimmiedgarage7268 Месяц назад

      Would square tubing be better for the frame connectors vs the tube connectors?

    • @funkhouserracecars
      @funkhouserracecars Месяц назад

      @@riggedandjimmiedgarage7268 Good evening...I would say either will work just fine. I like round tube for weight savings and general ascetics. If square is easier for you, that would be fine in my view. The goal of the frame connector is to transfer the force from the tire through the spring into the box.

    • @riggedandjimmiedgarage7268
      @riggedandjimmiedgarage7268 Месяц назад

      @@funkhouserracecars id agree with the round tube and weight savings. I think the connectors need to be welded to the floor on these cars as mine is very flimsy and i couldn't really tell a difference with the frame connectors bolted on in place.

  • @mikemakowski7237
    @mikemakowski7237 Месяц назад

    I love the idea of this video but we can't see half of what you're talking about the cameras like way too far away from the things you're trying to show us and I really wanted to know.

    • @funkhouserracecars
      @funkhouserracecars Месяц назад

      I 100% agree. I shot each style plate- meaning shock location with each variation of options. Im going to post each one in the links on my website and edit them all together as well for supplemental information. I found as I made this video I wanted to add even more info to what I had presented...but I was at 20 mins already. Each video I hope to make better than the last...and add good information as well. Thanks for the comment, I appreciate you taking the time to write it.

    • @mikemakowski7237
      @mikemakowski7237 Месяц назад

      @@funkhouserracecars and I'm glad you agree because I want to put together a leaf spring car and I want to be one of them guys that sets a record so the more I can learn the better for me and who's ever parts I use, keep up the good work......

  • @phillip-cl8bk
    @phillip-cl8bk Месяц назад

    MORE NBS STUFF!!! awesome

  • @phillip-cl8bk
    @phillip-cl8bk Месяц назад

    AWESOME, im grateful for the NBS style!!!

  • @YoungerPrice
    @YoungerPrice Месяц назад

    1st gen?

    • @funkhouserracecars
      @funkhouserracecars Месяц назад

      yes sir...the install looks the same for a 2nd gen as well

    • @YoungerPrice
      @YoungerPrice Месяц назад

      @@funkhouserracecars website please?

  • @gordocarbo
    @gordocarbo Месяц назад

    Nicely fabbed parts those arent gonna break period. Tired of seeing cheap chinese stuff on the market

    • @young11984
      @young11984 26 дней назад

      Sadly somebody in China will buy this kit and you will see one on ebay looking nearly exactly like it before long, glad we still have quality suppliers still around the states though. Hell most of Holleys stuff is off shore made now

  • @keysautorepair6038
    @keysautorepair6038 2 месяца назад

    Wonder if they would fit a 2 gen Camaro with Calvert setup.

    • @funkhouserracecars
      @funkhouserracecars 2 месяца назад

      hey buddy, i make a 2nd gen camaro setup. its a little different from these, and require a little bit of welding. funkhouserracecars.com

    • @keysautorepair6038
      @keysautorepair6038 2 месяца назад

      @@funkhouserracecars Thanks for the reply will check them out.

  • @keysautorepair6038
    @keysautorepair6038 2 месяца назад

    That’s crazy cool I don’t even have any anti role bar at all maybe something to look into.

  • @alcoatornado2749
    @alcoatornado2749 2 месяца назад

    good stuff!

  • @nosnerd1967
    @nosnerd1967 2 месяца назад

    In for Info

  • @racingdatasystems3708
    @racingdatasystems3708 2 месяца назад

    Super nice pieces!! But… why not hang the anti roll from two heim joints? We do this on our 900hp road race cars.

    • @funkhouserracecars
      @funkhouserracecars 2 месяца назад

      can you clarify how you hang them from rod ends?? Are you using the ball as the bearing? Im totally interested if you get a chance. Thanks !

    • @racingdatasystems3708
      @racingdatasystems3708 2 месяца назад

      @@funkhouserracecars I’ll find a pic! Or I’ll be back in front of the cars next week at Watkins Glen. It’s so simple and light. Yes! The ball in the heim becomes the bearing.

  • @HoskinsPerformance
    @HoskinsPerformance 2 месяца назад

    Love the details!

  • @andrewdwyer6848
    @andrewdwyer6848 3 месяца назад

    I didnt see it up on your website yet, How much for this, do you have it for 66-67 novas? Or only gen 1s?

    • @funkhouserracecars
      @funkhouserracecars 3 месяца назад

      Ive been working on making the changes to the website, slow but it will happen. I have 62-65 post/non-post, and I have 66-67 non-post available.

  • @riponsharma4031
    @riponsharma4031 3 месяца назад

    "Hi, Your videos are great! I might be able to help you out. Would love to chat with you to see if I can support you. Let me know when you have a few minutes to chat. Thanks! 🙏🏻"

    • @jeffallen3382
      @jeffallen3382 28 дней назад

      He copy/pasted the quotation marks in his spam comment! 🤣🤣🤣

  • @CaptainChaos131
    @CaptainChaos131 3 месяца назад

    When will these be on the website?

    • @funkhouserracecars
      @funkhouserracecars 3 месяца назад

      eventually yes...the tack welded stock suspesion unit is on there. i need to split it up to have some addrional options

  • @WDMtea
    @WDMtea 3 месяца назад

    So what if I send a file to you, could you cut and bend it, plus ship it? For a cost of coarse.

    • @funkhouserracecars
      @funkhouserracecars 3 месяца назад

      Yes I can...there are some limitations and some stuff we would have to sort out ahead of time...but Ive done several projects like this. Feel free to email me- matt@funkhouserracecars.com

    • @CaptainChaos131
      @CaptainChaos131 3 месяца назад

      When will these be available?

    • @funkhouserracecars
      @funkhouserracecars 3 месяца назад

      they are available now​@@CaptainChaos131

  • @workturbo
    @workturbo 3 месяца назад

    Good to see you making these videos Matt. Great product and overview of the install, keep it up!!!

    • @funkhouserracecars
      @funkhouserracecars 3 месяца назад

      thanks buddy!!! Im finally gonna run them badass v-band turbine housing units you built for me about 2 years ago. I got a 63 hardtop car with some cool new leaf spring ideas I came up with...can't wait to make some content on that car!

    • @workturbo
      @workturbo 3 месяца назад

      @@funkhouserracecars Cant wait!

  • @jwfabworks3141
    @jwfabworks3141 3 месяца назад

    What’s the price on these units?

    • @funkhouserracecars
      @funkhouserracecars 3 месяца назад

      $295 for everything plus shipping.

    • @jwfabworks3141
      @jwfabworks3141 3 месяца назад

      @@funkhouserracecars not bad at all

    • @funkhouserracecars
      @funkhouserracecars 3 месяца назад

      @@jwfabworks3141 I try to keep prices reasonable without any compromise in quality. Building everything in house helps a bunch with that being able to do it.

  • @carlhanna8429
    @carlhanna8429 4 месяца назад

    Looks real good nice work 👍👍

  • @andersonrowland
    @andersonrowland 4 месяца назад

    Awesome product, but $200 is above what I can justify for that. I really like the traction bars you offer, nice design and adjustability. Great products!

    • @funkhouserracecars
      @funkhouserracecars 4 месяца назад

      Thanks buddy! CNC parts aren't always the cheapest things you can get...thats for sure. They have a time and place.

  • @kanibullykennels6043
    @kanibullykennels6043 4 месяца назад

    So I can get a custom one made 🤔🤔 for how much

    • @funkhouserracecars
      @funkhouserracecars 4 месяца назад

      what kind of custom? What are you looking for?

    • @kanibullykennels6043
      @kanibullykennels6043 4 месяца назад

      @@funkhouserracecars I’m looking to build a rear engine single seat street legal cross kart the frame is the part I have no experience in welding, is not my strong suit

    • @kanibullykennels6043
      @kanibullykennels6043 4 месяца назад

      Like I want to do a dash doors windows ac heat radio even carpet I’m expecting to work on this project for about the next five years

    • @funkhouserracecars
      @funkhouserracecars 4 месяца назад

      @@kanibullykennels6043 we pretty much build about anything...something like that is hard to cost out. you can always contact me at matt@funkhouserracecars.com if you have more questions

  • @rodlenzracing6782
    @rodlenzracing6782 4 месяца назад

    beautiful work!!

  • @DavidsPerformanceGarage
    @DavidsPerformanceGarage 4 месяца назад

    Loving my chassis! Gonna try an get it in this year

  • @funfun8095
    @funfun8095 4 месяца назад

    Where are you located?

  • @TonysHotRodGarage
    @TonysHotRodGarage 4 месяца назад

    Badass C-10!

  • @FastFlyingFilm
    @FastFlyingFilm 5 месяцев назад

    Hit us up at Cagekits. We are producing 8.5 cages now as well as 25.x. We can save you a ton of time and money I believe. My name is Devin. I run sales.

  • @CPR07
    @CPR07 5 месяцев назад

    Full tube zL1?

    • @funkhouserracecars
      @funkhouserracecars 5 месяцев назад

      yeahh buddy! It still has stock front suspension for class reasons.

    • @CPR07
      @CPR07 5 месяцев назад

      @@funkhouserracecars can we get a video on it?

  • @MissionRestomod
    @MissionRestomod 5 месяцев назад

    Do you have a cage for 63-65 Falcon hardtop?

    • @funkhouserracecars
      @funkhouserracecars 5 месяцев назад

      Let me check, we did a Falcon a year ago. Email matt@funkhouserracecars.com and Ill check to see to what year Falcon we have in drawn. It started as an 850 cert, then we added the 25.3 stuff to it before it left.