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What do you mean? What d6 is spent on cunning action?

@@worldwarlock Dang it. I meant cunning strike. Why are the names so similar?

Ohhh yeah Fair, that's not a bad shout tbf, tho that would mean you have to keep your concentration up but it shouldn't be much of an issue. And as well you don't HAVE to using cunning strike if you don't want to

That's definitely true but it does feel like they've barely even touched the wizard😅there is not a single change or tweak between level 5-18 which is kind of crazy if you ask me

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That's such an excellent point!! I always forget about subclasses with these bc there is so much to think about haha

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That's kinda messed up😂

The tierlist only allows 10 rows so I couldn't include all classes :/

Yeah really does seem like that tbh, it's really sad

@@worldwarlock if you go back and look at the first several playtest packets there were tons of innovative ideas. However they did not receive wide support from the community in the surveys because people are terrified of change.

That's genuinely kind of devastating, change can be amazing

Hahaha i'll forgive you this time

I haven't actually watched or read one piece but I could maybe do one based purely on looks?😅😂

Yeah i get what you mean. I definitely feel like it's a step in the right direction but there's a lot left to do still. Obviously the weapon mastery helps but I keep feeling like this isn't properly a new dnd edition bc theyre barely making any real changes that they definitely should be making

Hahahaha so sorry

Hahahaha glad you enjoyed! And spiderman being a monk actually makes a lot of sense but then maybe 1 level in artificer for the webshooting?

Hahahaha fair enough honestly, i think I was a bit more serious in the first one of these I did but also it's just fun

Ahhh okay that's really good actually

@worldwarlock They're basically epic feats that can also take your stats beyond 20. One of the examples from the playtest is the Epic Boon of Speed, which increases Dexterity by 1 (to a max of 30), movement speed by 30, and the ability to disengage and end both the restrained and grappled conditions as a bonus action. I don't know if this will be in the End Product, but it should give you an idea of what to expect.

Ahhh thats actually pretty cool

That is actually a bit of a weird thing theyre doing isn't it. I like misty step but they're just giving it to everyone now

What's pally?

Hahahaha fair

I think they do want to try and make things as thematic as possible which isn't necessarily a bad thing tbf

Thank you😭

Yeah it's a tricky situation to be in tbf, but they should be able to come up with some good ideas, being the biggest ttrpg and all that

@@worldwarlock That's why they can't come up with good ideas. They still have no idea what people like about 5e besides the name "D&D", and every new idea they've had has been met with widespread backlash, so they're terrified of taking any risks - and when you can't take risks, you can't have ideas.

Yeah no ofc you don't have to but it always feels weird that they put the race option before class

Ah goodluck!! I hope it goes well!!!!

Hmmm, not sure. I don't feel like we get to see a lot of his character in the MCU so it's hard to judge but maaaaybe he'd be... A sorcerer... Paladin? Idk he's tanky, deals a lot of damage and flies but didn't exactly work hard for his powers, he just had a smart and rich friend

@@worldwarlock I`d say he`s a fighter with an artificer friend that gave him a lot of magical items.

@@user-fd5nz5lo7m So wouldn't he just be the same class as Falcon?

@@OllanMuza Well they are retty similar. Personaly I would give Sam some artificer levels as he clearly understands his tech. I`d also say that the amount of attacks and weapons on the War Machine is in line with 5e fighter.

Hahahaha yeah idk why i just love stardew and felt like it fit the vibe

This is a completely new concept to me, what is it?

@worldwarlock Oh, happy to explain! There are some fans of older editions of D&D, especially the 80s Basic Sets and 1st Edition D&D, who have created "clones" of those editions to keep them alive while they were out of print. Since then, the scene has grown and there are a huge variety of games and adventures for Old-School gamers. The core culture of play is to rely on "rulings over rules" as the systems are much simpler and smaller than, for example, 5th Edition. This gives a flexible, freewheeling style to the OSR. If you think it might be your kind of thing, you could check out Old-School Essentials by Gavin Norman.

😂😂i like 5.24

Do you not think it makes sense for your background to have an impact on what your character is like and what they're good at?

@@worldwarlock The problem is, the 27 points you assign to your ability scores should already be representing how your character grew up and trained. If "the impact of your backstory on your ability scores" is instead now going to be represented by a replacement to racial modifiers, what do your point buy points or your die rolls represent? If you're not doing racial bonuses, you can just cut bonuses entirely and fold them into point buy, with extra points and an increased score cap. That way, any ability point can represent anything you feel best fits your character, instead of having some points that must represent your backstory, and a whole load more points that must represent "anything other than your backstory". The only bonuses outside the point buy pool that would make sense would be racial modifiers, if you wanted to mechanically represent natural or supernatural biological aptitudes that are inescapable facts of a character's birth. Anything else is best handled in the common pool, which means if you aren't a fan of elves being dextrous, you should just use an expanded point buy, instead of moving racial bonuses somewhere else.

​@@worldwarlockSome people are just not interested in exploring their characters' pasts, but are here for the adventures in the present/future.

@@DanielMWJ that's actually so surprising to me, I love creating my backstory and thought that it was actually kind of a big deal for a lot of people. Obviously what's to come is always more important but I like the idea of using your past to explain what you're good at

Yeah same, that way it makes sense thematically but you still have some freedom

True!

Oh 100% it's been a complaint I've seen over and over. In their quest to make dnd as accessible as possible (so they can make more money) they've really dumbed the game down

Yep. Playing the Owlcat Kingmaker game and discovering just how much flexibility and character concept I was missing out on in 5e's very rigid system, was a huge contributing factor to me quitting D&D. And Kingmaker's not even a good game.

I'm not sure about eeeevery class tbh? I feel like warlocks and sorcerers can deal some serious damage. I don't think fighters are made to deal more damage than anyone else because they also need to be the frontline

All I'm saying is in melee they should doing the most damage, the only 2 classes that should be close to match them in melee is barbarian and paladin

@@dillonkostiw4607 Every class needs to be doing roughly the same amount of damage, or there would be no need to play the other clases. Like if a rogue with sneak attack can't compare to a fighter, then why play a rogue?

@@bradleyhurley6755 because of skills. The game isn't all DPS. The rogue can now deliver various status effects via sneak attack as well.

The rogue's "status effects" are rather silly compared to a fighter with a Maul who knocks his opponent prone and gets advantage on every attack afterwards for the entire party. If I had a guess I'm going to say that is probably one of the first weapon masteries that DMs are going to have to start banning. The Rogue's unconscious one coming up right after it. So I think in actual game play, the Rogue's status effects aren't going to be that great after DMs eliminate the ability to make a creature go unconscious for a min.

Yeah they're genuinely such a greedy company and they don't care about their customers or the quality of their game, just about more and more and more money

I think usually DMs (at least myself and other DMs I've played with) will at least make note of it like "the creature seemed to be hurt less by your attack", which usually makes it pretty obvious. But tbf I can see why some DMs don't do it that way and then that skill becomes a lot better

Unless you're DM is making a homebrew monster, you'll most certainly know the information because it's going to be in the monster manual (no, reading the rules of the game isn't a form of cheating). Even in the case of a homebrew or unknown monster, its generally much more engaging to give players information that they can act on. Mysteries are meant to be discovered, otherwise that kinda defeats the whole point of vulnerabilities/immunities/resistances as narrative and tactical devices.

@@dumbwaki5877 Reading the monster manual and using that knowledge as if your character knows it is definitely meta-gaming and not to be encouraged, because it goes against the idea of the roleplaying aspect of the game. Your character is only as smart and knowledgeable as they are expected to be.

@@worldwarlock Our group's DMs usually don't say anything about the effectiveness of attacks, unless people are repeatedly attacking a target that is definitely immune - like an animated weapon not taking damage from non-magical physical damage. If we're in doubt about effectiveness we're encouraged to make free perception checks to notice the damage extend of our attacks, but we hardly ever get that information up front. (We do a bit of homebrew with free perception and knowledge checks in combat because it doesn't make sense to us to dawdle around for 6 seconds trying to remember some information from a knowledge skill or to plainly look at the target and see the damage you've inflicted. Either you see something or remember something from your subconscious or you don't. In certain situations a higher DC may be applied.) It feels more immersive to not get immediate detailed feedback and we try to not act on meta information.

@@m.r.r.2636 Why would you not always make free perception checks to notice the damage extend of your attacks? Seems it would just be easier to tell you up front, because eventually with 5-6 players, one of you are going to figure it out.

Oh I completely agree, fighters, and all melee classes needed a massive buff

Honestly they haven’t equal to casters. As it stands now they are about as good as they were in the UA which is still extremely subpar compared to magic users.

Oooo yeah excellent point, for some reason I kind of forgot that weapon mastery is limited to specific weapons🤦🏻‍♂️

Do you not think that martial classes really needed these?

I mean smite will 100% still have its place, but that place is a lot of damage whereas the weapon masteries mostly seem to focus on utility

Same!!!

No exactly, it feels like a quality of life update rather than an overhaul of the system

It is. It's a balance patch with some new features that raise up some abilities and drag some abilities down. The people calling this 6e are insane. It's 5.5 at best and probably more like 5.2.

You know what that's an excellent point, i didn't think about it that way but you're so right😅

It would be great if it was the ability score, but it is the ability modifier. Still good at low levels though.

@@XanderHarris1023 yeah, thats what I meant