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Thx man ;)

Haven't used it for a while, last time i checked about 4 or 5 months ago it worked. You made me wonder, so i just tried turning on the saffire pro 40 and testing it. It didn't work, and restarted the machine. I'll have to see if it can be fixed at some point in the near future, when i get chance. Haven't changed anything in particular about my set-up, so there's a high chance it was a windows update that borked it.

O.k ye Barsteward. I couldn't rest until i sorted this, cos it was doing my head in, and i've cracked it. Took me an hour. If you try and change firewire drivers on device manager to Via, it won't let you do it, and constantly restarts the machine, after a bit of head-scratching however i've figured outta work-around. You get device manager up. You right click on the 1394 bit and update driver button. You press the bottom (look on the computer) and find the Via firewire drivers. Click once on Via and be prepared to press next (but don't push it yet). Now are you ready?! Turn the Saffire Pro 40 on. You have a window of about 5 seconds before it reboots your computer, immediately after turning on the Saffire Pro and in this 5-second window click "Next" on the driver page. Boom back in Biz. It's 6am and i just solved this wee conundrum. Your welcome internets.

@@ObiDanKinobi thank you very much for the feedback. It is likely that with W11 updates you will have to do this kind of things to keep the saffire working. There is a risk that some update will come along and it won't work anymore, but for a PC used only for a music studio (no internet), which would be what I'm looking for, you could freeze the OS on the last functional update. I think that a multipurpose PC with W11 will inevitably be a frequent headache for the saffire. In my case I have an old PC with W7 and two saffire cards, a pro 24 and a pro 40, so I want more than anything not to lose the investment. I don't have the money to invest 700$ again and I also think that those cards still have a lot of life to give, even with W10. The other option is to buy a cheap USB interface with no connectivity options, but that's a horrible downgrade. I'm glad you solved the problem for the time being. The owners of these hated and loved cards know the suffering ;-)

@@escafandrasemiotica No worries. Probabaly amigo. For the record I'm using a Startech PCIe (think that's what it was anyways ;) card with Via chipset. Saffire Pro 40, W11. Full internet connectivity, so has been getting updates as and when Windows deemed it necessary. I vaguely remember the Firewire drivers being the crux of the issue before as well. If i had to afford a somewhat educated proposition, i would say that each windows update probably rolls back the 1394 driver to the in-built generic firewire driver, which unfortunately doesn't seemingly work. :P I needed to change this driver somehow and trying to do it manually from device manager, repeatedly shut down the machine. It didn't seem to manage to execute the driver change at all in fact, but instead was a superficial change, without actually enacting the required kernel level driver swap. Then it dawned upon me that before i had issues when selecting a driver for Cubase, and ultimately resolved this by, turning the saffire pro 40 on, and within the 5 second window that the computer remained operable (before it shutdown) quickly changing drivers, to Saffire drivers. I then transposed this thinking onto the idea that perhaps the saffire pro 40 needed to be connected (albeit breifly) in order to bring about the required change. It worked. And now until Windows is lobbied once again by Focusrite (plausible, says the cynic in me ;) to shutdown this further hack . Saffire Pro's around the world will once again be able to be used by the little people to make wonderous tunages on a shoe-string budget. Y'argh matey, onwards! ;)

As you say freezing the OS and going off-line. Would be a viable work-around imho for those who take their pro-audio more seriously.

Nice one bud ;)

Hey man, only on my phone at the mo so just a quick response. Ok so the TPM module in your bios “could be” what is causing the restarts. It basically blocks external hardware from functioning as it could potentially contain a threat vector. Disabling this might help you. I’ll get back on this, more in depth later Regards

Also the pro40firmware.bin is indeed the file that needs swapping

Yeah prepacked legacy drivers provided in W11. As far as I recall.

@@ObiDanKinobi Thanks for all of your replies. Unfortunately I forgot to mention I tried disabling TPM and the pre-packaged legacy drivers wouldn’t work for some reason. I tried switching to them and they too just restarted my PC without changing the driver. I had to wipe those from my PC and get a fresh install of some legacy drivers but even though I could switch to those drivers the saffire still wouldn’t work. At this point I’m just going to get a virtual machine with windows 7 as it’s become too much of an unhealthy obsession :,)

@@james_drummurray Fair enough dude, i only said it could be done, never said it'd be easy ahaha ;)

Itsa kinda magic dude ;) It's just a bit technical is all. Similar fix to the W10 work around involved swapping out the firmware .bin. I haven't dabbled in this for a year or two (as mine is working well under W11 haven't had to) but off the top of my head you need to procure the the saffire mix-control 3.81b (?) firmware. There is a link to a forum with further deets on a comment below on this video. This forum includes a link to the google download page with said firmware. I'll try and smarten this up, when i get chance and include it in this video page at the top.

drive.google.com/file/d/1ks6hBy027dgubhk7gwcby06rjxqSHXrL/view

You would likely need to swap the firmware.bin file in mix-control as you did for the Win 10 fix, instead swapping the 3.81b for 3.7...unlike the Win10 fix of 3.7 for 3.4. I haven't dabbled for a few years with this, but that was the jist of it. Some other links to Reddit forums, you might find useful on the comments on this video.

Also need to disable TPM in bios.

scathing

sebastian get out

Try looking up some info on this thread and the other links contained within it. Might help. www.reddit.com/r/Focusrite/comments/o93z6w/using_saffire_firewire_range_with_newest_windows/

@@ObiDanKinobi S/O let me dive in

So, she's a child now? What did you want them to do to give her tea and biscuits before she gets out of the car. She is not of course playing up to the gallery. Is she?

It says stafford and I'm sure the collar number of the officer is 28645 if ive got the number right from the video

Watch all 3 videos and then ask yourself why she was begging for a female officer

Nothing it's under investigation she was targeted by an officer

what does this video have to do with this video you just viewed

Wrong person 😅😅

Nope she isn't

You talk some shite

No she doesn't

Yeah maybe they had info the Cow they ran over was carrying Grass ?

what if the female officer is lesbian

what if the female officer is lesbian

Exactly

@@DavidBoyd-nm1iw what if the female cop is a lesbian you ever thought about that so she would be better off being searched by a gay male cop unless she is lesbian herself

whats your point because the female cop could be a lesbian so unless lesbian herself wouldnt she then much prefer to be searched by a gay male cop

The point is you dont know what has happened to her and she begged for a female officer !!! Think about why that is !!!​@tonymeck-lj8rv

Exactly this

Do you even know her ?

what if the cop is gay or the arrested female has down syndrome no disrespect to them

😂😂😂why cause she's so attractive 😂😂😂😂

@@englandrule100 not to me she isnt and if the male cop is gay then whats the issue problem with him being in the van with a female and because wouldnt a lesbian cop be more of a threat to such a female in that sense if she was a bit bent no pun intended corrupt crooked

you referring to the female cop and yes i agree if she is a lesbian cop nothing wrong with that though is there

so if female cops arrested handcuffed her she would of behaved herself with them would she no i dont think so

​@tonymeck-lj8rv you weren't there this is under investigation because she didn't do anything wrong and the copper has issues

@@Haybaby4608 you were there were you

This is under investigation due to the officer and guess what she was released without charge covered in bruises and both the other offices stated it was bang out of order and not needed she has foled an assualt charge against the officer ​@@tonymeck-lj8rv

@@Haybaby4608 YOU WERE THERE WERE YOU AND HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT FEMALE COPPER HAS ISSUES ARE YOU HER PROFESSIONAL PSYCHOLOGIST PSYCHIATRIST NOW ARE YOU

Good luck, hope ya got a decent fix working.

Some hacks, a lot of ballache, and some trial and error dude. There's a full how-to on reddit. Not sure if it'll allow links on youtube or not. I'll post the link now if i can. Don't expect this to work "out the box". In short you need to swap some firmware from an older version into the newer one.

www.reddit.com/r/Focusrite/comments/o93z6w/using_saffire_firewire_range_with_newest_windows/