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I'm sure there are people who do this kind of 2-stepping (p. 113 in the 12 x 12). I do both service and sponsor women. I've also worked the steps numerous times for myself and actively have a sponsor. Usually, there are minimum sobriety requirements for "jobs" at the group, district, and area level which keeps people from committing until the have the experience. That said, we have a lot of "meeting makers" who do NO service and do not sponsor at all. It's terrible because it forces those of us who are active to sponsor multiple people and do most of the service work. I've had to pull back on some service work so that I'm not "hogging" positions that others may do--and in some cases, there service jobs stay vacant. AA is not an easy thing, but it does pay off.

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YOU ARE A "REAL" ALCOHOLIC only because you ARE ALIVE. So everyone in AA is REAL ALCOHOLIC unless you are DEAD!!!!!

I like everything you said, but the way you just seemed to be patient and waiting until your ready, doesn't sound like you were afraid dying immediately ...like I was. If I waited until I was sponsorable? lol its sounds like a sport, am I coachable? Fentanyl was dropping bodies all over NYC, I was next. I needed anyone in the program that could help me stop and stay stopped, like out-patient drug testing. someone... i dont care how much they know are just a bad fit, others are annoying but they are getting it going with you, showing me how it works, its took me over a decade to get it right. Then there were others that I felt like were angels without wings, just so easy to talk to...I trusted them. my suggestion is get someone as soon as possible and figure the rest out as you go. Your life depends on it, even if its a counselor, therapist, psychiatrist, GET SOMEBODY> Godspeed

I thought everyone from Boston are alcoholics

Good idea this video Jon.. help newcomers to know in general what they encounter.. 😊😊😊😊😊👍👍👍👍👍

careful taking advice from anyone

Many different opinions.Keep going to mtgs.Stay in touch with the program

AA/NA are places where sick people will keepceach other sick while pontificating about how wonderful they are. If you are a female you will likely be preyed upon. There are more efective and healthy alternatives. Do your redearch.

I like that work shop. What do you do ?

The "Pink Cloud" is the period of time where you are in denial, before facing the WRECKAGE OF YOUR PAST BEHAVIOR AND MISCHIEF. When you get honest about the damage you have done to others while drinking you become humble.

Oh yes, helping people is a trap. Good luck on your journey …⚓️

This is nonsence............aa does not work.......

LISTEN CAREFULLY....YOU PICK A PERSON WHO HAS HARMONIZED THEIR #1. WORDS, #2 ACTIONS #3 VALUES Period.

there's one in every group

I don't see service as having much downside and I have never seen any one skip step work because they took a commitment. I think the primary reason for taking a commitment is to lessen the chance of reducing attendance which is the number ONE thing most people do before they relapse. I don't have statistics but I would guess 80% of those who relapse do so after first reducing the number of meetings or they simply stop going. Being involved will cause someone to get to know other members which will increase the chance of finding a sponsor and working the steps which in the end is how we recover. I see no reason to make a video warning people about being of service. Service is one of the three pillars of the program. If it wasn't for people offering to do service there would be NO AA

What is gained by belittling someone else's choice to join a club in which people value sobriety?

And don't be surprise to run into an asshole as well.

Doing the steps are also a trap.....keeping someone busy diverts from the base underlying issues.....

I remember a sponsor saying to me that everyone in a meeting has something to teach me- sometimes they are there to teach me patience.

Thanks for sharing brother

People relapse because they don't really want sobriety. AA is a fellowship of friends not a magical cure.

I really want to hear this!!

Dont be dissuaded by negativity from people who still dont really want to quit. AA is not scary. Alcoholics will tell you lies about how AA cant help you. If you want to quit drinking AA is always ready to help you. No one will shame you or blame you. AA is not a cult demanding your money. You will be welcomed with kindness and understanding.

Dont be dissuade

AA can't help people who are not willing to admit that they could benefit from intelligent , honest conversation with like minded people

My pet peeve. When the defects of character of the alcoholic is discussed. Hell ! That's most people!

Just b nice but don't let anyone tell you what to do or leave the cult

Or. How about some women get ran out of the meetings by “old timer” predators who harass them and leer at them in meetings? I think you left that one out!!! 😂 I’m supposed to gather in a musty church basement with a bunch of dirty old perverts. Sitting there drinking their nasty coffee and leering at me while they crunch on a stale oatmeal cookie for my well being? Yeah, no thanks! Then immediately after the meeting they be line for ya wanting a “hug” (ie to feel ya up). I’ve said more than once do not touch me if you want to keep both your arms. Yep, you left a lot out for sure! What a bunch of horse shit!

I personally ♡♡♡♡ AA!

if i can give one take away is do not put people on pedestals etc.. Guard yourself and be careful, really is some sick people in there (some good ones too) got over 300 meetings done and starting to really feel the cult notion..

lol, the “deliver me from EGO!” gets me, too.

Bro it's all talking points buncha medium stuff and a bit of gold and most of it is bs problem is nobody is going to openly say I actually got sober from xyz and it helped me more than this book in an aa meeting bill actually but there not going to tell you the whole story 😅

The meetings are basically church for people who dont go to church.serve, fellowship etc they lack the TRUE GOD though. Christ ain't a light-bulb!

I'm a recovered alcoholic, and was never a heavy drinker Make as much coffee in service ain't going to get you spiritually well, keep coming back no what is says is these are the steps we took

What about the real alcoholic… I’m on my second soberity and looking back at my first I didn’t do the work and it didn’t work for me . Then starting my second soberity worked all twelve and I have now landed recovered from a hopeless state of mind and body and get to live spiritually… thank god

Boston John is like a uncle to me in AA😮 I look up to him for advice in life and sobriety he's never steered me wrong😮 you can absolutely rely on anything he says please like And subscribe all his videos so he keeps helping people😮 thank you so much for all of your help and your humility I love you😮 from Thaddeus

You can absolutely rely on anything this guy says I consider him like blood family he has helped me considerably in AA😮 very humble man😮 we need more people like this in Alcoholics Anonymous😮 Please Subscribe and like all his videos😮 from your nephew Thaddeus I love you bro😮 thank you😢

They love fresh meat. It feeds their sense of purpose. I did find solace in the meetings for the 1st couple of years, however, I never bought the promise that if I didn't do it their way, i would get drunk. 90% of them act one way inside the rooms and another way outside the rooms. Careful who you share with and what you share. Anonymity has gone out the window. They talk, gossip and judge. I recommend outside therapy with a 3rd party. I have 25 years and quit going years ago when I realized my sponsor was a total narcissist.

Its a cult and anti-God!

Oh my god! You’re telling my current story. I needed to hear this.

Thank you for doing this brother. May you be blessed.

My original East Lansing home group expected new guys to get 3 sponsors and call three on daily basis until advised otherwise. Don W. was my stern disciplinarian sponsor, Jerry S. was my 'slow down and talk about your feelings' sponsor, David was my east coast intellectual, actively recovering from narcissism sponsor.

Going on 16 years sober - Ive been doing this, for me I call it a grudge list and it really helps!!!

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Cult

Im going to my first meeting this Saturday in uk

Was excited then he mentioned praying. I'm out. I am also glad it is working for so many people.

Most of the fellows in AA are not Alcoholics

Bc of the CRAZY PEOPLE lol