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Statistically, even after you account for the number of vehicles on the road, gas vehicles have a lot more fires. Maybe you just need a bicycle.

Apples to apples, EVs are less likely to catch fire, today, but the severity and intensity of an EV fire is typically greater. Also, give EVs some time, if prices truly drop where people who live hand to mouth can buy them on the cheap, we'll see how damaged, Jerry rigged, and overall poorly maintained EVs fair with thier ICE counterparts.

In 2023 25.1 E.V. fires per every 100,000 vehicles sold compared to 1,529.9 I.C.V. fires per every 100,000 vehicles sold.

@@acarrillo8277 Thank you.

No, it won't happen to a gasoline vehicle sitting by itself with no one around. They catch fire when fuel is being circulated. EVs catch fire when no one is watching, like in your garage, at night, under your kid's bedroom.

​@@michaellowe3665get the fainting couch then? You act like ICE cars have never caused a house fire😂

@HarryDirtay yes, with billions of them on the roads globally for over 100 years, obviously they have caught fire in almost every circumstance available. In nearly all of those cases, it is an electrical fire. EVs do not have fewer high current circuits capable of spontaneous ignition. They have more.

There are also considerably more ICE vehicles on the road, many of them very old and repaired by backyard mechanics. Comparing apples to oranges. As EV cars age start to rust and people repair them themselves, they will catch up with ICE vehicles.

It's not how likely they are to catch fire, it is the circumstances. ICE vehicles catch fire when they are running and someone is around to notice. A fire usually results in the loss of one vehicle. EVs catch fire when charging and no one is around. They destroy everything around them and fill the area with toxic smoke. I will not have one of these charging in an attached garage. I still like EVs as a concept, but people need to rethink how they use them.

@@theo21021 In 2023 25.1 E.V. fires per every 100,000 vehicles sold compared to 1,529.9 I.C.V. fires per every 100,000 vehicles sold.

So, you think high pressure hydrogen storage is safer? The pressure alone is enough to violently explode the car over several blocks. What happens to a tank full of pressurized hydrogen when the car catches fire. It may have nothing to do with the hydrogen itself. It could be a wiring fire, but when it cooks off that hydrogen tank, it won't be safe to be within a block of it. Now imagine a parking garage full of these and an unrelated fire starts. If I manage a fire department, none of my guys are going in there until it burns out.

You realize they store hydrogen @ 5k psi? 😂 you fucki g dopes think that's gonna be a safer fire?

NO, H2 is far more dangerous on top of being a secondary fuel that is not efficiently generated. Especially considering a H2 molecule can go around the materiel containing it causing hydrogen embrittlement.

Really?? Thats because its training.

except that's not the technique

If you cut through a cylinder you will

actually, you do. Until you disable the cylinders you can still discharge them. cutting a notch on them with a recip saw disables the cylinders. it's a safe way to eliminate them and then you can carry on without them discharging.

not this kind of “electrical” fire

This is not the same thing

@@AnthonyBlamthony but it absolutely is.

​@@HardCoreGarage Nah its not actively being supplied like mains so its a tad different. PPE allows for the use of water with lithium

@@IDGAF2298 it doesn't work... ever. Does it cool the battery, yes. But does nothing to put out the fire.

The blanket will not cool the battery but, like we said in the video it will buy you time to get additional resources, decide on a tactic, and it will protect exposures allowing time to remove the EV from those exposures or the exposures (cars in a parking lot) from around the EV.

They have vehicles which can accomplish the same thing. We happened to have a loader. Vehicle pull works just as well.

I'm with you. Air bag deployment impact zone damage, I agree should lead to the shutting down of the high voltage systems. It's my belief that these areas should still be avoided because of their potential. We try to advocate multiple layers of shut down to lessen the likelihood of failure. Send us an email we'll see if we can't work together on some stuff.

The point of the technique is not to be done while it's on fire. It's a way of accessing under the hood post collision

I will get the entire video (long form) uploaded this week.

Yeah it's training. You ever take a CPR class? When they teach CPR are you practicing on a dummy or a real person? It's training boss not a real incident but thanks for pointing out the obvious.

The f-150 lighting has a high voltage line running by the a post were we make relief cuts. They do pose a threat.

Anytime that we have high voltage components located in the a post, charging ports included we need to avoid cutting that area.

@@junkyarddogextrication ill agree to disagree , doing it on streets , in classes and ant the crash test facility/manufacturer

Yeah I don't think that's going to work. I haven't found one person who's bought one, who doesn't love it.

@@junkyarddogextrication you can now say you have. I Traded mine back in for a gas vehicle.

All of the techniques used in the video, can be used on electric vehicles. It's called training. You should sign up for one of our classes so you'll know what exactly was electric vehicle training in our videos.

It's training. No one said it was an actual electric vehicle. But, thanks for the obvious comment.

He's using water to burn it out.

You can use water to put out Lithium Ion batteries, but Lithium Metal batteries react with water, the title is incorrect, its not a Lithium Ion battery.

@@tonystanley5337 You're wrong... Today, Aug, 19, 2024, a TESLA SEMI hit a tree on interstate 80 in Calif. State and County fire departments could only help keep the forest from burning. Water is absolutely useless. This started just after 3 am and the freeway was closed ALL DAY LONG. It put a halt to over the road interstate commerce and travel from No Calif to Nevada.

@@skylane807 Firefighters can deal with an isolated fire in a vehicle, they have more difficulty dealing with an entire forest. As for battery access in the Semi, I don't know. But its batteries are NOT lithium Metal, you can use water on them. The point some people are mistakenly mentioning is that water causes fire when you put it on Lithium metal.

​@@skylane807If you can flood it then water is effective. The main objective you want to achieve is cooling the batteries from thermal run away.