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@matiasmoreno3562 My b, homie. Didn't mean to make you wait this long for a reply Yes, this doable without a rectangle controller. All a rectangle does for this tech is make it easier to land due to the being able to get a fully horizontal input every time. You could absolutely do this on GCC. For the next part, yes - Samus is capable of doing it. Out of a short hop, full hop, and on plat too. Her ECB on her double jump is nice because she curls into a ball.

yeah falcon double jump and especially full hop back flip are free 0 degree wavelands on fod and yoshis top plat. falco full hop back flip is a bit narrower timing window but also easy on those same stage top plats

github.com/UnclePunch/Training-Mode/releases Download the 2.0 version then when you got that setup, hit L to open up the OSD, and it's labeled "spacie tech". Just flip that on and when you go in there to practice, it'll show ya' the angle. I'd say maybe have 2 UnclePunch versions in your Dolphin because 2.0 is obviously outdated and missin' some stuff.

Hi, Paperking! The individual you're lookin' for is Primal! www.patreon.com/vancity_primal/home ❤

@@GalenTheWise you are an absolute legend 🩷 thanks boss

@@paperking64 Anytime (: Much love and ty for watching the vods ❤️

This is a game for degenerates, after all. May as well embrace it, right? 😂

Nah. I only made this for spacies. Not like I couldn't, but I just don't really have the motivation to make more videos like this if I'm being honest. There's a chance sometime in the future but slim odds fs. I'm sorry :T

You can't really do the Galen method anymore with neutral SOCD. I mean you sort of can but the distance goes nowhere so.. yeah. You can only do a regular moonwalk (walk one direction then dash another while doing a half circle input)

is there no way to do it instantly from a dashback like on gcc? i play falcon, i wanna be able to knee instant MW@@GalenTheWise

@@selv_ You mean from a wavedash back? No. That's dead with neutral SOCD. Like I mentioned in the previous comment.

not a wavedash back, just dashing back. an instant moonwalk from turning around. the wavedash method is too slow for falcon anyways@@GalenTheWise

@selv_ You can only do a moonwalk by walking a direction then dashing the opposite direction then doing a half circle in the opposite direction from your dash. Also, that's slower than WD back moonwalk for your info lol. You can WD whenever. Having to setup a walk first then having to dash in the opposite direction is slower my a margin

Yeah you can reliably empty pivot. There are 3 methods: Left → right → release right on the next frame. Left → right → press mod x or y on the next frame. Left → right → down right on the next frame. For the record I use the last method. Hax uses method 1 because he's insane lmao

@@GalenTheWise Sweet, ty!

@@nick.3733 Of course (:

O shit that's a miiiighty task you've taken on. I admire your dedication to something so grand and I hope you find success (: Uhhhh.. there are probably a few places you could post it. More than likely social media would be the best bet at first. Twitter, Reddit, Smashboards (not sure how active that site is anymore but worth a shot) Yeah, I've tried it with everyone. It's a pretty cool little tool and I'm sure other characters who aren't spacies get many more options because of it. Glad you enjoyed the find and I wish you luck with your documentation. Much love, homie <3

If you're getting dash back, you're not hitting the 2 frame window. So you're hitting the back input too late.

@@GalenTheWise okay ty i’ll give it another go

@@oliknight8897 If you still are having trouble, I'm down to show via a Discord stream or something rq. Not rn unfortunately since I'm still at work but later today and or Friday evening works (:

@@GalenTheWise I've got the timing down somewhat now, just need to practise some practical uses for it now

@@oliknight8897 Congrats, man (:

No code for it. It's just in the Unclepunch training options when you pause

@@GalenTheWise i cant find the option

@@eric_ssbm_28 If you have the most updated version of UnclePunch I think it's in the general options when you're in the 1st event mode. I'm at G9 so I can't really check myself until Monday. But if you still can't find it, I'll figure it out

Ayo. I figured it out. Turns out, in the most recent update, they disabled the "spacie tech" OSD which is what the angle visualizer is. You gotta have an older version of UnclePunch to use that.

@@eric_ssbm_28 github.com/UnclePunch/Training-Mode/releases Download the 2.0 version then when you got that setup, hit L to open up the OSD, and it's labeled "spacie tech". Just flip that on and when you go in there to practice, it'll show ya' the angle. I'd say maybe have 2 UnclePunch versions in your Dolphin because 2.0 is obviously outdated and missin' some stuff.

Hey, hey - "being bad at something is the first step to sorta being good at something" (: But yeah, I feel it. Playin' a game this flushed out and as old as it is, it's scury. But when you do something sick, that dopamine feels greeeeeat. Keep working at it, mang. You got this

Tbqh, I don't ever actually use modX into down. I do it the opposite way of down into modX. A little risky but I mean, if you're trying to ledgedash then risk is inherent so..

@@GalenTheWise yeah melee is all about risk haha

I think it's only available for usage via UnclePunch. I'd recommend the more updated version that's available in his patreon. You'll get a looot of training options (:

@@GalenTheWise That's great, thank you so much for the fast response!

@@KyleCranberry Of course! Happy training :3

@@GalenTheWise I have unclepunch could you please tell me where the setting is to turn on the visualizer?

@Invictus_Mithra Only available on earlier versions of UP. Can't remember which one, but probably a version or two prior to this one.

Absolutely. Glad you enjoyed it (:

What do you mean by "b0xx inputs"? You mean the input viewer? If that's what you mean, I'm using OtaK's one in the B0XX discord which I think is in the "bot command spam" channel. Also there's the official one you can use too

@@GalenTheWise just the inputs themself. It works fine for slippi, but multiversus isn't reading. Did you ever setup the controller through steam?

@@garrettpeterson3324 I know you can hold modY on plugin which puts it in keyboard mode. After that it should be a simple setup via the in game settings config for Multiversus. I tried using my B0XX for Multiversus and got it to work in keyboard mode which required me setting up the buttons I wanted where in the game but that's it. Wasn't exactly optimal either.

I definitely started with Falco and focused on him for like just under two years. Maybe two years max. Then did the same thing for Fox. Think Fox was def under 2 years. After a bit I started realising one of my biggest problems was the jump squat frames between the two of them and that switching was really difficult - kept missing WD inputs. But I think you should focus on who you enjoy playing more if that's something you can clearly identify. If not, focus on the character with the most consistency. Nothing wrong with putting the other spacie on the bench for a bit. Been trying to get my Falco to where my Fox is in regards of consistency and results.

@@GalenTheWise my Falco has a higher skill floor because I've been playing him longer so he's more consistent but it feels like my fox has a higher skill ceiling when I'm really feeling it

@@ColemakDH Yeah at that point I would just go with whoever you have more fun playing. It's definitely a tough choice fs. No wrong choice though. If you end up playing both you'll need to put a lot of time in either way

That’s what makes it so exciting to me

I think it's more accurate to say it has the highest skill ceiling. Depending on how you play melee, the skill floor is actually really low too.

@@theoriginalrandommanso marth 💀

The neutral one (white colored one) is a patron only skin sadly. Believe it's Primal's where you can find that. The green one (Crystal Fox skin) is on SSBMtextures website and so is the orange one (Spec ops Fox). The lavender color is a B0XX Fox skin which I paid for so sadly that one is not available.

Appreciate the kind words and I hope I get to see you around my Twitch chat sometime :3

@@GalenTheWise I appreciate the detailed reply!

@@FlipsMG No worries, mang (:

I use X to jump and I use Y for shine wavelands! I believe the manual which you can find on the main website for B0XX.com and or the discord should have one available to download. Should tell you what buttons are meant to be used in what way (:

Very kind of you to say that. Makes all the effort worth it to me knowing I'm helping in some small way. I'll be streaming on Twitch in like 3 ish hours if you'd to drop by and ask questions/lurk. Either or, you're awesome, and I hope to see you in my chat sometime!

@@GalenTheWise I'm in class for around 12 hours a day, but know that you're my very first reference when I don't quite understand something (like how to drift or what angle of wavedash go practice most). :)

@@treycuret Well I appreciate that! Much love to you <3

20MX, good individual (:

Just a misinput lol

Also, I'll be live around 11:30 ish PT for WC practicing some Melee tonight. If you happen to have any questions, I'd be happy to try and answer them for you on stream

Hopefully some of the routines are useful to you! <3

@@GalenTheWise hehe I don't actually use boxx, I was just curious. Great vid tho!

@@myboy_ Hey that's ok (: Ty so much for checking out the video! Much love to you :3

Really happy to hear that my video helped you in some way! (: Much love and hope you're enjoying F1 <3

Oooooo. That's actually hype af. Slippery Doc gets even more tricks

I think it took me like.. 3-4 years but I'd still say I'm not as proficient as I'd like to be. But that's the journey for ya' :3

@@GalenTheWise learning the boxx has been nothing but a joy for me. I'm 5 days in but man does it feel like a huge hurdle just to do somethings. Like Di'ing and shielding. I've watched a lot of your videos for tips. Your content is awesome man. Keep up the great work!

@@ronburgundy174 Glad to hear you're enjoying yourself! That's honestly the best hearing someone is having a good time on any of the rectangle controllers regardless of the difficulties! Ty for the kind words and I will keep at it! Was gonna stream tonight on Twitch but way too tired. If you're up early tomorrow morning, I will be on Twitch for Melee around 5:30 AM/6 AM PDT for WC! Later on in the late hours after work, I'll be streaming on YT! Stop by if you ever wanna say hi :3

Hell yeah, my guy. I'm down to do another one of these sometime. Always wanted to continue it but just got lost working on other shit lmao. Lemme know and we can set up a schedule/work on a basic topic agenda to help our talk be more.. focused.

@@GalenTheWise specific percent driven approaches to neutral game using scenario examples and creating If (x-percent) then (y-attack) processes for fox/falco versus every character, one by one, including mixups. Although honestly I don’t care too much. I’m free Friday if you are?

​@@Jonathondelemos I just got back from Riptide on Tuesday and I had to request like 6 days off for that :T Normally I'd be free Friday but I gotta work through this weekend before my schedule is somewhat normal again. But I'll let you know what days I'm off for next week when I find out!

Hell yeah! Glad a character you like gets use of it.

I appreciate the kind words (: And I'm sure you can <3

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