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Love this talk! Although I'm not sure Red Hat has been working with Java seriously for 30 years, Mikael (ref: 50:30): 2024 - 30 = 1994 would be two years before JDK 1.0 ;-)

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Very niceee I'm exciting to watch the full video congratulations

sound sucks. Better luck next time.

Great remarks

Must learn more...

The snarky, side comments about Canonical and joking about the name of a plane used by Mark Shuttleworth, are disingenuous and not really embracing the work that the community has done, many employed by Canonical, as a whole. The additional sarcastic comment about "Canonical's goal is to disrupt RHEL" is not only flat-out incorrect, but also paints Canonical as _competing_ with Red Hat. They're not, except as viewed in the eyes of Red Hat themselves. Let's stick to facts, please.

Why on earth are people wearing masks? Can't understand them at all. there is no way this took place a week ago, is there some current event?

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I am sorry, any panel where Oracle is put on stage to defend open source principals and is put up as some sort of voice of open source, loses credibility with me. A company who is opportunistic and selective, on open source, bashing a company that open sources every product they either help create, or acquire, feels weird to me. In my view, two of the panelists have an undeserved arrogance about the topic, and the other two are more balanced and reasonable. I hope the members of the panel in aggregate can try to add up how many open source related jobs they have helped create, and compare that to what Red Hat has done. All the anger and barbs seem pretty misplaced to me. To B Kuhn specifically, it appears you have found a way to get paid to be an open source purist, and Jeremy A to some extent, but the number of paid positions that are viable to be a purist are small and rare - you seem to want Red Hat and everyone to follow your lead. If Rocky or Alma or Oracle Linux success reduced Red Hat revenue, and those 3 are able to hire 10, 20 or 30 people and Red Hat lays off 100’s, how is that good for open source? I feel this group, and anyone who agrees with their viewpoints, need to be more balanced in the response approach - no one is stopping CIQ, CloudLinux or Oracle from creating their own Linux version like AWS, Microsoft and others. Don’t see how they are so righteous when they could build a business on open source and add new value - not just take the value someone else created and give it to people for free - I feel like people need to get real already…. They say that Red Hat builds on the work of others who contribute to the Linux modules that they use - and I say great. That is what AWS does also with their Linux, and these 3 companies on the panel should do also if they want to respectably be in the Linux business, which they appear to want to be.

It's always been true that using a downstream rebuild, even if just a naive rebuild of Redhat srpms, was an improvement for me simply due to avoiding time/effort around how Redhat wants me to manage licensing, subscriptions, systems, etc. just by letting me decline to manage systems in the way they insist. I use all three of Alma, Oracle and Rocky and luckily for me the changes in Redhat's stance on this has led not to these being weaker options, as Redhat would imply, but to them adding features and support that improve "Enterprise Linux" and which in some cases I can't get from RHEL. Ironically Redhat has, through its apparent attempts to extract the maximum subscription revenue possible, created a rich ecosystem of alternatives that I believe will be even richer as they shake off the shackles of "bug for bug" compatibility and each embrace building a better EL than RHEL and share their work with the ecosystem. It seems like Redhat is self-destructing here by creating competitors that are more interested in addressing customer needs than just extracting raw revenue via any method possible, and I for one am fine with them self destructing and I suspect the panel will be happily hiring when the Redhat layoffs start (maybe not the future-former Redhat management...). I'd love for the groups on this panel to come together and publish an open EL standard which could track RHEL in "good enough" mode while not being limited by it.

Good job putting together this experienced panel and great conversation. I'll remember that comment about "getting a C on GPL". BTW thumbs up for the audience wearing masks, a FOSSY and Oregon thing 👍🏼

Now, after a long time, hearing to a knowledgeable panel and highly sensible discussion, which was need of the hour, thank you very much

What a fantastic discussion, thank you Bradley, all of the awesome panelists, great questions, and the SFConservancy. Really enjoyed this, well done!

It's a shame Red Hat declined the invitation to have a presence on this panel. And potentially also a bit telling as to how much they feel aligned with the FOSS community.

GRsecurity did the same as Red Hat and received severe community backlash, Bruce Perens even wrote that he thought GRsecurity was in breach of the GPL. The silence on Red Hat doing the same is disappointing.

Excellent talk on the reasons that free and open source software needs to be used and protected as much as we can

Nice talk!

I appreciate you even attempting a solution in this space of a free autonomous knowledge base. The only similar project I've found is Lunyr. However, just like them I see that there isn't much info on Zamphyrs progress. I'm curious to know the top challenges that this project has faced.. Maybe sharing painpoints and successes can help others contribute with a different perspective

ECPL = All right reserved ? good question !

This is very interesting for forming opinion on the impact of GPL and other CC licences. Layers on ower side have to fight for real impact of theses licences. Copy left licences are not open source licences : the idea is to defend the common that is this software.

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Moderator: " This is the keynote session where Bradley Kuhn of the Software Freedom Conservancy is gonna tell us about while even though he is a command line geek, he thinks we should use gnome." Bradley: "Well, more importantly, what I want to talk about is why everybody should be using gnome even though I don't. Umm because I admit I don't use gnome, but everyone else should be..." The exact...thing the moderator said... Sorry folks, doing some research on gnome ui/ux and came back to this...and this guy irks me.

FYI - A recording of the keynote Karen gave at Ballarat 2012 is at ruclips.net/video/5XDTQLa3NjE/видео.html

Over 30 minutes in and this guy still hasn't told me one solid reason why I should be using it. He is just pontificating on the history of Open Source free software versus proprietary software. Who let him get through to deliver this presentation?

Gnome is capable of running on average home computers. The only problem is that the animations are heavily laggy. This is supposedly because gnome-shell runs on a single thread, which is a fatal flaw.

Very good talk, thank You for uploading. Stumbled upon it in a recent thread on debian's mailing list.

There seems to be more of an emphasis on the GPL and Software Freedom in this discussion than any technological advantages GNOME 3 may have over other Desktop Environments for Linux. It is great that it is Free and in Freedom, but I'd rather use most other DE's simply because they almost always require less RAM and Processing power in comparison and my current laptop is a bit low-end. My own personal biases aside, I think there should be more of a focus more on technical advantages than just open source politics because I still can't seem to get what is great about GNOME 3. Perhaps someone who uses it on a regular basis would be a better advocate.

Karen Sandler is superawesome!

Excellent video Charbax. Good interview. Thanks.