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@@revivalist70 Yes, definitely.

Thanks for checking out the video. I have worn them all day and found them comfortable enough to do so. I can actually feel the support more while walking in them compared to running, but it’s still very slight. Now, I haven’t worn them in an amusement park situation where you’re literally walking all day. In that case I think your feet will get tired no matter what shoe you wear.

@@oneschance lol! Let’s see if the AI agrees.

@@oneschance I think they are a tiny bit more snug in the toe box, shorter and narrower. In the midfoot to heel I think the fit is similar.

@@writeorrun that difference should work out for me

Thanks and I'm glad you enjoyed the reviews! I just tried on both again and the SB2s are a tiny bit shorter than the NB4s. I don't think it's a full half size difference, however. The SB2s fit slightly more snug throughout, but if the width of the NB4 didn't bother you, I don't think the SB2 width will bother you either. It's the length that caught my attention. If I were to buy the SB2s again, I would try on a half size bigger just to see, but my current 8.5M doesn't bother me enough that I'd definitely go bigger next time. I think when you figure out exactly which size fits you well, you'll really enjoy the SB2s. I looked forward to wearing them every time I was doing a test run. I hope that helps. If you do end up buying them, let me know which size worked for you and how you like them compared to the NB4s!

@@writeorrun Thanks for the reply! That's helpful. For added context, I had the Novablast 3s in an 11.5 and for some reason, I thought I needed more room in the toebox so I sized up to 12 for the NB4s. Part of my rationale in doing so was that I wear 12 in Nike, but I have since learned I'm probably better off going by EU sizing; a EU46 is a 12 in Nike but an 11.5 in Asics. So I actually had it right with the NB3s...which leads me to think I should go back to an 11.5 in the SB2s (or get 2 pairs and decide, but a single pair of SB2s is hard to come by, much less two!)

@vtkeike I can relate. It's hard to be certain every time, even within the same brand. I'm not sure where you live, but there are a couple places in the US that will do free shipping on returns no questions asked. If I'm really not sure about the sizing, I order 2 pairs and then return the one that doesn't fit. I've found that Nike runs a little smaller, too, and I could probably go a half size up in theirs.

@@writeorrun I'm on the East Coast (but grew up in SoCal, so all the more reason i like your vids!). But yeah you're right, I should go with a place like Fleet Feet or Running Warehouse that way I can get 2 sizes. I was a Nike loyalist prior to the NB3s, because their member return policy is fantastic. But their lineup doesn't hold a candle to Asics, Saucony, etc. Thanks again!

@@ChickenRunner9 That’s fantastic! You should feel proud of yourself for going for it. You never know what you can do until you try, right? I was hoping to run the Long Beach marathon this year, too, but my shin splints are not getting better, unfortunately. I wish you all the best in that event and most important, stay healthy so you can keep doing what you love!

These feel more agile and nimble compared to the Nimbus, which is heavier and bulkier. The Nimbus does have more cushion so it works better for recovery and long runs. I’d use the velocity for tempo runs and faster paced. They don’t have as much cushion but they still have good rebound so it turns your feet over more quickly. That’s how they compare for me. Hope that helps.

@@writeorrun thank you

No worries. I turned 50 this year!

Well I turned 50 at the begging of this year also... I purchased the Edge paris a week ago and took them out for a 5k run yesterday...... So I'm interested in opinions of this shoe 😁

@JAY.POT.502 that’s great! Have you been running a long time? I think the Edge, personally, works very well for a fast 5k-10k. I don’t think I can’t take it to half marathon yet. I still haven’t gotten back to the shape I was in back in May. Injuries really suck at my age.

I've been running 2 years last month,never ran in my life,but started 2years ago and loved it ! I have a target of 1,000 miles and I've nearly hit 700 miles,so still have some work to do ! The edge paris is a quick shoe,but I had some pain around my right ankle after my 5k yesterday,so not great that it doesn't have alot of padding! They fit very well,very comfortable on foot,abit narrow i felt,but was pleased to get back into my novablast 4 today....... Not sure what the sky paris is like,but I felt it's alot of hype for the edge paris,which I was expecting a super shoe,but didn't really get one ! Maybe it's my style of running,I don't know,but for £220 I expected more,especially with a full carbon plate !

@@JAY.POT.502 Congrats! I only started running a little before you started so we’re kind of in the same boat. At this point I expect to get an injury from time to time. Even young pros get hurt, too, right? I didn’t think the Edge was great for heel strikers as it’s billed. If I could keep at least my 10k pace for a half or full marathon distance then I think it’s a great shoe but otherwise it doesn’t work well for me at longer distances yet. I need something with more stability if I’m going to be on my feet for a long time. The upper is a little narrow but it fits me fine. And I have enough room in the toes. I’m checking out the Superblast 2 Paris these days and so far it’s very nice!

@@Chungdol That’s good to know! Yeah I couldn’t run for a while and I’m still recovering from the shin splints so I’m taking it easy. Thanks for watching!

@@Ntahxtau I got it directly from the puma website here in the US pretty much when they were first released. Hope that helps

@@writeorrun I see, thanks for answering

Just telling it like it is. Lol

@@writeorrun I know, & for this exact reason (ugliness of the shoe), I chose another Nimbus 25 navy (which is dearer than ghost max), that too a second time!

@@2pac1307 lol. I saw the new ghost max 2 and the color ways are blah again

@@writeorrun honestly I fully expected them to 'run flat' our expectations 🫠

That's not a bad color way. You could have settled for worse! lol

I don’t think I quite understand the question. Feel free to elaborate and I will get back to you.

Lol. No, there isn't really a system. When you tie the bow it'll wrap over the vertical loop that's on the tongue. As you can see in the thumb, I have the laces going under the loop. But I don't tie the bow under it. I guess you could, but it's probably not worth it.

Yes I think you are right.

I ran in the Saucony endorphin pro 4. They were solid the whole time! Very comfortable and I didn’t get any hot spots. I’m really glad I chose to wear those for my first marathon.

@@writeorrun why not cielo x1?

@dinterowski I like the responsiveness over the pro 4s. It’s more fun but I had to consider the distance and time on my feet. I think after about 3hrs I would have had a hard time since they aren’t as stable. It’s a good thing because the last 3 miles or so in San Diego are on the highway so the road is cambered. That section was brutal even with the pro 4s.

I know where you’re coming from. I’m actually a little injured now. I had a slight case of shin splints before the marathon. It didn’t bother me during the race but it did feel sore afterward. I went back to running this week and it feels worse so I’m taking it easy again. I think as long as you’re listening to your body you’re doing the right thing, regardless of the distance you run. Hope you keep recovering and running!

Thanks! I wouldn’t over think it. I always remember what the mother of my old roommate once said. More or less, some things you can’t go in with just one foot. You have to jump in with both feet. 👍

That's an interesting shoe you mentioned. I've never heard of that brand, but it looks pretty legit.

@@writeorrun They were in the shadows a while but with the 160x 3.0 pro they rocked the marathon scene, the regular 160x 3.0 is the training variant or race option for us slower runners. In the east asia running scene they are everywhere on the podium. The 5.0 pro sadly is hyper aggressive and nothing for people slower than 3h (they wanted too much at once it seems...) To say it short: I have over 40pairs of running shoes, study in this field and work in it aswell - I got 5 pairs of 160x 3.0 as my workhorses, its light, kinda stable, soft and plush without being mushy and you dont notice it on your feet at all. Enough advertisment...! Thank you for your videos <3

Thanks for all the background information. I’ll give you a shout out if I happen to see them in stores here. It would be interesting to check them out.

If you're consistently landing on the mid to forefoot, I think the Edge Paris has slightly more energy return. The Pro 4 does feel like it transitions better, however, for me.

Nice! See you there!

lol. I think it depends on how long you’ve been running and how much distance you’re used to covering. For me, once I’ve gotten a few marathons under my belt, I think I’d be comfortable training in these to run the 26.2 miles. But as of now I prefer something with a more stable platform to run that far. If I were a solid heel striker at any distance or speed, I personally wouldn’t use these for a marathon.

I tried the Edge and Sky. Liked the Sky better for me

Opposite for me ​@@jerrydooley7551

I'm the opposite ​@@jerrydooley7551

Interesting concept. Maybe running on sand?

Sand or on ground???

That’s difficult for me to say. I’m a lot of places I read that neutral shoes work well because there isn’t extra support on the inner side do the foot. If I were you I’d try that or a stability shoe that really locks in the heel. But I think I’d try something out in the store first. I still wear out the outer edge of my shoes first, too. It depends on how excessive it is. I’m sorry I can’t be more help on that. I just noticed that the mild stability helped my knees feel better and my feet. The wear pattern didn’t change as much

I have not tried the 29s. From what I understand they redesigned the arch support in the 30s, which is the first version I tried. I didn’t realize I needed the support and to me, as I’ve heard many others say, it feels subtle, but effective. That’s why I feel like can use them regularly for recovery runs. In your case it may not be enough. But if you have the chance, maybe you can test them out first before you buy. The 31s are coming out soon but it looks like they didn’t change the midsole except for its outer appearance. Sorry I couldn’t be more helpful.

I had been wanting to try these for a while and they did not disappoint. Regarding the super shoes, I’ve been testing the endorphin pro 4s. I’m going to make a review soon but as of now I feel like they may be the ones I wear for my first marathon. The adios pro 3 is also really good but I got them last year so I wasn’t able to do any really long runs at that time. I think they may be releasing the adios pro 4 soon so you might want to wait for that release. Although it would mean you could get the 3s at a good discount. 👍👍

@@writeorrun thanks for your thoughts mate!! Yes, the speed 4 doesn’t disappoint at all, I’ve been enjoying them! I think both adios pro 3 or endorphin pro 4 would be good options, with different setups but I think are similar in many ways. I’ll let you know which one I go for!

Haha. It’s not as bad as I originally thought

It’s definitely going to be my go to daily trainer

@@writeorrun And for your recovery and long runs?

@@snowwalker9999 These days I’ve been using a carbon plated shoe for my long runs so that I can get accustomed to it for my upcoming marathon. I’m actually looking at the triumph 22 for long runs once the marathon is over and if it’s good, I’ll probably use it for recovery as well. But I also liked using the ASICS kayano for recovery as well, if my knees or feet are feeling extra sore.

@@writeorrun I can understand. Looking forward to your Triumph 22 video. So far all the reviews have been conflicting. Some say it’s too firm some say it’s very soft. I want to sell my Fresh Foam V4. I feel it’s overkill. I’ve been considering 1080V13, Triumph 22 or Gel Nimbus 26. Can’t decide. Maybe you could do a comparison video on them

That’s a difficult choice. I wanted to try the glycerin 21 because it’s got the nitrogen infused foam. But I haven’t had the chance. The ghost max is very good. I’ve been waiting for a easy/long run shoe that I can wear for over two hours. I have my eyes on the new triumph 22 because it’s got the powerrun pb foam. If it’s as good as I’m hoping, I think it’ll be my choice over the two shoes that are causing you pain. lol. Don’t sweat it though. Whatever you choose will be right for you.

@@writeorrun Thanks for the reply mate....I always use Max cushioned shoes, I have Nike Invincible 3, NB More V4, Nimbus 25, these are all max cushioned shoes....so does GhostMax is equal to the ones mentioned here ? in terms of cushion, bouncy etc

It made sense to me at the time. lol

I mean, it could be true. lol

lol glad you’re enjoying it!

You do have to be a bit more careful because it is very light. But yes it looks good!

What are you even talking about? Are you running in worker boots with steel soles? Who needs a waterproof shoe? Or one that can survive a nail? Is the comment supposed to be a joke?

@@MrSeedi76 No clue, this is called typing 😁 If you knew how to read, you'd understand 😆

lol

Yeah, I know. It is what it is. On long runs I get a hotspot under the ball of my left pinky toe. I've been taking these on shorter easy runs and recovery runs instead.

The deviate nitro has more room in the toe box. The velocity nitro feels like a narrow shoe from the heel through to the toe. It’s not uncomfortable but it does feel more snug.

lol

It will be the part of your foot that hits the ground first. Sometimes you can tell based on the wear pattern of your sole. I tend to be a heel striker so I notice that the rubber on the heel of the shoe looks more worn out compared to the rest of the sole. If you’re a mid or forefoot striker I think the pattern will look even across the entire bottom. If you’re still not certain you can get a gait analysis at a shoe store and they’ll tell you exactly what kind of runner you are. Anyone else have any tips to figure it out, please don’t hesitate to respond. I hope this helps!

@@writeorrun Yes it did help.Thank you so much for your detailed explanation.

Thank you! I had a minor setback with an injury, but I'm hoping I can get back onto my training schedule.

It's really a fantastic shoe for tempo and intervals. It's great that you're doing weight training, too. I recently understood the importance of strength and conditioning. I got a minor injury a couple weeks ago and I'm pretty sure it's because I haven't done any weights. I'm still not back to 100% of training schedule. But I'm definitely adding 1-2 days of s&c going forward. Keep up the good work!

@@writeorrun How did you get injured? Maybe you've pushed too hard? Sometimes it doesn't feel like you've pushed hard, the fatigue just accumulates without you feeling it and the body is good at adapting so you won't feel it. I had to stop recently as well, gladly no injury but it was like I'm injured coz I'm doing something crazy like bodybuilding and running feeling like 200% on 100% each but in actuality is just divided to 50/50. If I was smart about it, I would have known I was being a jack of all trades master of none, gains slower on both and I should have been patient about it but I did push harder, I kept pushing hard and it was too quick for me and it was all sudden, running gait was off like I don't know how to run, I can't lift my normal weight even decreased reps and weight I would even be tired after a few sets. I was stupid to keep going even with the decrease in performance and on the last day I planned for a slow long run with a bad gait, my calf went off, my knee buckled so I fell. It was a month's rest after that. Now I'm sticking to taking it slow, like dialling back down the reps/weight, distance, pace while at 4-6 days a week for both with slight gradual increases per week or two weeks, sometimes rest a few days. It doesn't feel like I'm pushing hard but is better at improving slowly and gradually. There is a better approach if overall you're just focused on running with adding weight training to your overall training unlike mine and these hybrid athlete influencers. Most advice I found is you can do maintenance for lifts only and have running as a priority. Lifting is just supplementing your running and if managing time is hard on some days/weeks then you just cut or stop the lifts and not sacrifice running. Like doing 70/30 or 80/20. That way you won't slack on lifts, you can and have to max out on those but won't worry about it getting in the way since it's only minimum 2 days a week with only the important lifts to help your running.

Thanks for asking. I ended up with a lower back injury. I had bad one about 2 years ago and since then I would stretch for 15min the days I ran. But I had stopped doing that for about 3 weeks prior to getting my latest back injury. I also started upping my mileage because I'm getting ready to run a marathon and I think it was too much for my body. Thankfully, after about a week of doing nothing I'm back to running now. I'm still not exactly where I left off, but I'm not in a hurry because the last thing I want to do is get injured again before my marathon, which his in about 8 weeks. I think rest/sleep is crucial to not getting injured. My schedule is to run 5 days/wk, but it's still difficult getting enough sleep when you have kids. lol. Thanks for the advice. And don't forget to listen to your body when you feel like something is slightly off. That's definitely a sign to take it easy. I keep reminding myself that life is like a marathon. You have to play the long game.

@@writeorrun Glad you've recovered, probably was due to upping your mileage hope it won't come back and get worse. Same with my friend who does triathlons and also had a back injury. Because of him I stopped doing deadlifts, keeping squats and rdl's which are enough spinal load already especially with the impact forces on running. I'm following him adding some core work to keep it tight and protect my back as well. Anyway, goodluck on your upcoming marathon.