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To make money and pay my bills like every other competitive female the World Over.

Ironic a guy who built nothing and just mooched off of other people’s ideas is trying to drive a wedge between himself and consulting. Nice turtleneck prick.

I wish I knew how to explain my services like this

Consulting has become an activity where one makes profits when making recommendations and makes further profits when these recommendations prove to be wrong. This becomes true in particular for bankers, lawyers and auditors. It becomes true because the world has become a financial world, with fabless corporations, which is based on bubbles.

I work for a consultancy in the engineering/construction industry, and I agree. I’ve had a number of disagreements like this with some of my bosses. A lot if not most of the people in the industry are primarily interested in their own pay-check and bottom line, not the value they bring to the customer, which only comes in 2nd. It’s a lot more about ‘selling’ and a lot less about ‘doing’. Now that I’ve worked a few years and established my financial independence, I can afford to say “no” to bullshit jobs, aka jobs that might even pay well but add little meaningful value. There are *a lot* of those jobs out there. In engineering/construction, probably a third of jobs and work is nonsense that we could do without. The irony also is that much of it is driven by bureaucratic legal requirements that most organisations don’t understand well enough to push back when consultancies try to sell them services they don’t need. I’ve fought these people before tooth and nail on my own company. It’s really difficult to do an authentic good job, for good value to the customer, when you’re sat in an ecosystem like this that almost by design is intended to milk your customers dry. And the end-customer is often the taxpayer. So ultimately we’re just cheating ourselves.

Maybe try selling apples 🍎

Now ai can consult for free.

Consultants were the most useless waste of time, money and effort in my long corporate career.

I have noticed that about myself I speak about something before I accomplish it

As a consultant I would say: IDIOT. I ALWAYS owned and took and take massive responsibility for the success of everything I did for all clients. R.I.P. Steve.

Consulting is the root of all evil, certainly in this country (the UK). It is the death of ownership, responsibility and accountability. If you work for the company ultimately doing and owning whatever it is that you do then you have ownership, you do what is right for the company. If stuff is outsourced to consultants then what they do is driven by contractual scopes of work, often poorly defined by procurement people who have no knowledge of the area the consultant works in. There is no accountability, no desire to go above and beyond as you won’t be there to reap the rewards. It’s the way a lot of companies go though purely because outsourcing fixed scopes of work brings financial certainty, or at least a degree of certainty. It also means they don’t have to invest in training, and can hire and fire without nearly as much red tape. It costs more in the long run overall but no one seems to care about that anymore it’s all about how much money can be saved or made right now, as that’s what the directors bonus and shareholders dividends are based on.

Wasn’t he an immigrant?

Male and females shouldn’t be in school together would you put a kid in jail with a rapist

He knew the concept of SUBSCRIPTION this early? 😮

Any thoughts on "cults" mr.jobs?

thank god his company is so committed to letting you own the things you buy

Reminded me of another saying: Engineers, their problems only grow larger while Dr's bury their mistakes.

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The upside is that you do get experience with many different fruit, instead of say 15 years with a banana and then when you go to a new job find out that banana's are boring old fruit and grapes are the new thing

he's right about consulting not really able to see things through to the end but consulting also allows us to see so much more of the industry. I worked in simulation consulting (Finite Element Analysis) and in that world, work in one company doing one type of product will drastically limit my growth trajectory. again, he's right that if I don't see things all the way through, I also miss important stuff.

Why do companies still pay these people?

He talks as confusing as Musk does. I think both were/ are just actors. 🤷🏽

People have worked in bananas, peaches and grapes, but never in Apples

I am working on an air fuel engine which will change the future forever as there will be no limits of fuel.......

is Steve Jobs the equivalent to Elon musk?

He seems to misunderstand the role of consultants. It is not their experience they are paid for but for redirecting the blame while implementing the management’s wishes.

All manufacturing was outsourced to China a long time ago. The effects are becoming more and more visible.

Aston Kutcher nailed it

The purpose of consultants is to advise not to implement. If they just stayed at Apple and did the implementation then they wouldn't have a clue what was going on in the greater marketplace and would not be able to give the top level consulting they are valued for. Maybe he just didn't know

Imagine listening to steve jobs talk about evil and take it seriously XD

I think it’s the perspective and how badly as an organisation you want to adapt to new processes and change! Change is a bus which needs both permanent and consultant to come and unite with the same goal! It’s a cultural shift. I am a consultant who owns up my mistake and attempt the initiatives. When shit hit the roof I jump in and fix the problem without pointing fingers! All these things are a topic when you have a team not motivated to do their best! If you think a permanent person is very good at their job, pay them and take care of them! Reward and recognize truely their contribution If you think consultant is going beyond his role and wants to make the change. Give him the opportunity and credit! In the end if things fail we’re all in this together!

4:07 "Mathematically". Yeah, about that. In average all 3 pieces of work took the the same amount of time, also time to market is the same in average. It depends on a time scale. if it is a matter of days is not the issue at all.

Absolutely spot on!!!

Steve jobs may have been a real butth**e, but he was sometimes smart, even wise. I hope towards the end of his life he learned to be human.

Peak of /rareinsult !

RIP!

Skin in the game

The less effective consultants are the more money they get. In my experience they get hired by weak managers covering their backside.

But Steve never actually run an orchard growing apples... yet talks about apples

man's just spouting out newly formed opinions on the spot.. what waste of time

Consulting is supposed to be a senior position. Why would I care about experience when I already have 20 years of experience ? The whole point of me moving around every project is to share that experience faster that if I was contributing only one project. Then again I have seen people under 30 in "consulting", but they are just glorified thiefs and they will pay one day or another. These people are empty.

Us consultants work on bananas, peaches, and grapes. And hes worked on apples

Does anyone still not know that consulting companies are just a disguise for corruption? That is why CEOs like it so much, a way to drain money from companies to their pockets.

Bro is dancing with words trying not to outright shit talk consultants lmao

Getting in consultants or "specialised" IT contractors often seemed like a slap in the face to me. Despite the skills of the contractor or consultants, it takes time to learn how the company they are consulting works for. As far as the IT work goes, I always wondered if it was not a better idea to choose some of the existing team to learn about whatever it was management had decided to implement and backfill by hiring someone more junior (and therefore cheaper) on a renewable contract. Surely it is easier for someone to learn about one product in a given amount of time than it is for someone to learn how your department works in the same amount of time?

This is plain, if not extra plain banal. But oh! It comes from Steve Jobs and then it becomes gold.

Consulting has made me wealthy but it's a total scam, Jobs was right about that. Being a variable expense in hard times though - that's everyone. You'll get canned in a downturn to appease shareholders just like anyone else.

Consultants come in many shades these days. You have everything from "Go in for four weeks, generate 10 millions in savings by firing a bunch of well-paid experienced employees and taking away free coffee in the office, leave" to "Temporary young employees that are given a bit of leeway to find new solutions and shake things up a little to keep the workforce from going stale" to "Temporary staff extension for a big project" to "Do the actual work in a company for the longstanding employees that are all dead inside". Type 1 might be more prevalent in the US, while they're actually exceedingly rare in other countries where workers have the agency and right to complain. And if you're good enough (and care for it) you can accompany all phases of some sort of product as a consultant - we started out with pulling a big savings number out of our ass, got the project rolling, then we created the actual RfP, did some honest legal work, produced cybersecurity assessments, assessed the offers coming in, got half the board members of a big company fired for an outrageous offer that really strained the relationship between the two companies and we eventually got a deal that potentially generated bigger savings than initally promised. My company ended up getting a deal out of it where they were actual service providers, and we recruited people for the implementation, set up a big three-company workshop and did project management. Tldr: Consultancy allowed me to actually accompany a project LONGER and on many more levels than I ever could have as a regular employee, while getting access to some of the highest ranking IT executives in my country. As an outsider in a company you can move a lot more freely between hierarchy levels in the client company if you're good enough. And yes, if I named the companies you'd recognize everyone of them.

Hate consultants hired right out of college. They become bosses who are major pricks and have zero empathy and knowledge for the ones who implement

Management consultancy is nothing but a deception a con. The prime use of management consultants is so CEOs don't need to take responsibility for laying people off - they can say 'well these clever guys have pointed out we need to do this, not my idea - but we have to do it." Thats it, it's 99% of why they exist and they get paid billions for it. Management consultancy employ graduates straight from college - usually Ivy league Colleges. These kids have never done a days work in their lives, and are some of the most privileged and comfortable people around - they have never been employed. They go from high school, to college and then usually a post-graduate degree on top of that. They have never managed a budget, been responsible for revenue, manufacturing, sales - nothing. For starters, the average consultant at renowned firms is often young, between the ages of 20 and 30. A significant proportion of them have only been with the company for a scant 1 to 2 years. This lack of experience raises questions about their capability to advise behemoths like Apple or Microsoft on how to manage their business. Most possess no real-world management experience, relying instead on theoretical knowledge from textbooks and case studies. It’s widely recognized that exceptional management is honed through years of leadership and hands-on experience, skills these consultants usually lack. Despite this, they manage to secure six-figure salaries right out of college, with earnings soaring above $200,000 by the time they hit 30. One might argue that junior consultants are often guided by seasoned senior consultants. However, most companies already have internal staff far more knowledgeable than any external consultant. For instance, a program manager with 20 years of experience across numerous big companies will almost always outperform a senior management consultant. Despite this disparity in experience and expertise, top consulting firms continue to rake in billions. The question remains: why do companies feel compelled to hire management consultants if they are so inept at their jobs? Convenient scapegoats. If layoffs succeed in stabilizing the company, the CEO is likely to take credit for making tough decisions. Conversely, if the layoffs prove unnecessary or detrimental, the CEO can deflect blame onto the consultants. You can be absolutely sure of one thing, that no matter which management consultancy you employ or how much you pay them - They will know less about the business at hand than the people they are supposed to be advising. You are paying a college graduate millions to tell you what you already know.